faste:
Lame escuse!!Change is inevitable in life.We all must make changes in our lives to survive the demand and challenges of our time.

Then vote for leaders who will change things and make us prosperous and defeat tribalism and religious bigotry and make us an industrial and strong nation.

Go and vote them in and stop complaining to me. Lord knows I don't like PDP or apc

JOemmy:



Who is funding the ametekun in the SW? States especially in the north who can't fund their police should be assisted by the federal govt by deploring the federal police there one section of country can't continue to draw back other sections of nigeria that urgently wants things to be done in a more civilized and organized way.

We fund everything by oil money which is why we can't have goodies

As for me, we should get off oil and in the short term making sure the 70% of People who don't pay income tax to the goverment is one way out

In other words raising our tax to gdp ratio

dat9jaguy:


You are free to your own opinions but my beef is that you claim not to agree with Buhari on this issue but went ahead to agree with him in your write up.
No matter your hatred for Buhari, commend him when he gets it right;It will not remove anything from your body.

Go away and play with your PDP friends APC man.

As for me, both parties out. Nigerians first

J3susFr3ak:


So the alternative would mean settle for the current status quo where the Muslim-Fulani dominated Government assist their Terrorist kinsfolk to ravage innocent Christian villages and kill lives in the name of what....land grab? The current system is TOTALLY unacceptable!

1. Funding is a problem because there is no political will and an organizational framework to work with...and of course, the lazy default from oil subventions is the alluring trap that kills all incentive to innovate. For instance, people EAT everyday. This means people need to go to the market and BUY stuff everyday. If both the open and closed air markets are structured in a way that requires a credible POS where the state can automatically deduct a 10 to 15 percent tax from every single purchase made --even from food items alone--there you have solved a lot of the thorny funding problems for State police. Yes, any person or group that would want to trade must do so through that system where every transaction can be tracked. You have to go cashless to enter the market and use the POS. If you have cash and cannot go to the Bank--the State Government can collaborate with the Banks to issue a "Market Card" where you buy the card for the amount of money you have (just like recharge cards) and then you pay for your items with that card. Any cash transactions in the market will see both buyer and seller liable to severe fines and jail terms. If every single transaction is FORCED to go cashless through a state controlled POS then it is far easier for the state government to collect its 10 percent for every single purchase made in that market. Any market that rejects a POS is BANNED!

I did not mention how Property Taxes can also be used to fund Education, the courts and the also law enforcement in some advanced countries.

2. Governors can also be checked when they abuse their powers. In the US you have Internal Affairs from a higher jurisdiction with the powers to investigate any breech of trust and abuse of power. Just make it into a strong law that when a Governor has been found to abuse his power by the facts unveiled by political opponents or any other group--the Governor immediately loses control or power over the State Police. A Temporary neutral Figure can then take over control of the State Police (a Traditional Ruler, A Judge or even a Higher Regional Police Structure to which the State Police is answerable to) as the facts of the case are being debated in the courts of law. If the Governor is found guilty, he is immediately impeached. If not...he resumes control of the State Police.

3. If the Governor finds that a crisis is beyond the ability of the State Police to cope, the Regional or even Federal Police can then come to temporarily take over the situation until the situation is quelled. This loss of power will motivate the Governors to not want to escalate any crisis of any kind.

You know the fact that you mention 1966 and you do understand that most of the crisis and pogroms then was an interplay between the major ethnic groups. Today under a Federal system, the same 1966-type pogroms have been brutally carried out in Benue, Southern Kaduna. Plateau, Taraba....with the objective of wiping out Christian minorities who have no real control of the security apparatus in their various states and domains...only to see Hausas and Fulanis using the same Federal structures to forward an Islamization agenda. The current Federal Policing system has failed these indigenous people. State Police is the only option to balance the equation for true law and justice to prevail.

Then vote in leaders who will change the status quo

And stop fearing the Fulani. Nigeria is not developed for the same reason Africa is not developed

We are resource dependent ,not industrial and taxes dependent

And we are too tribal and religion divided to have state police

Like most of Africa

Go and change the status quo

einsteine:


The US does not even have state police.

Each city or municipality has its own police.

the have FBI etc which act as federal police

einsteine:


The US does not even have state police.

Each city or municipality has its own police.

And they all pay the taxes for it.

Also, not all municipal or county forces are equal. NYPD is better equipped than a police force somewhere in Nebraska.

If we were to have state police then we must be ready to pay the tax for it. Knowing how Nigerians hate tax...

So what then should be the option?
Wait till everyone is vanquished by these terrorists?

You mean the 'status quo' that has not only failed scandalously but has been a consistent tool for the office of the president to cajole & threaten political opponents?

as much as I understand the fears in some quarters about the flip side of state policing,its simply the only option we have & an alternative whose time has come!

However,the main issue of state policing is not really funding but 'control'!
Who controls or who would the state police commissioner be answerable to?
Who recommends & appoints the police commissioner?

Falana (SAN) once opined that security control should be handed to the people of that state & they should be the ones to decide who is the CP!

He further explained that each state should have a police council that is made of a rep from the civil society,judiciary, the state government, traditional rulers,Nans etc

This group of individuals will determine who is appointed as the state CP,the CP will also be control by the council while finding/training should rest on the shoulders of the state government!
In the future, there should be a special tax to fund the civil security of the state!

backbencher:


Then vote in leaders who will change the status quo

And stop fearing the Fulani. Nigeria is not developed for the same reason Africa is not developed

We are resource dependent ,not industrial and taxes dependent

And we are too tribal and religion divided to have state police

Like most of Africa

Go and change the status quo

No one is fearing anyone. Your initial response made you sound like an apology poster child for the current system's failures.

The best moment the South had to really and totally disrupt the System with a thorough restructuring was with Obasanjo and GEJ. There are absolutely NO current Presidential candidates forwarding their agenda at the moment with a clearly outlined goal to Restructure. Perhaps due to the fact that if you reveal all your plans to early....you will alienate some and not smell the office at all.

Your democracy is useless....

J3susFr3ak:


No one is fearing anyone. Your initial response made you sound like an apology poster child for the current system's failures.

The best moment the South had to really and totally disrupt the System with a thorough restructuring was with Obasanjo and GEJ. There are absolutely NO current Presidential candidates forwarding their agenda at the moment with a clearly outlined goal to Restructure. Perhaps due to the fact that if you reveal all your plans to early....you will alienate some and not smell the office at all.

Your democracy is useless....

Okay,take up arms and fight for the change.

As for me, working within the system to change it is better than war or grumbling.

Nigeria's problem is tha we rely on revenue from oil and other raw materials rather than on taxes and export of industrial goods whose prices we can control

And to be honest, your southern leaders or Northerners don't think down that line. Neither do APC or PDP.

Which makes me sad and angry quite frankly

Good afternoon

This is not his decision to make.

The legislators have full power to implement state police. It's all about amending the constitution.

Buhari practically has zero say in it.

Las las, the country na cruise

faste:
Ask him..it is just like saying don't go to the university because you might not get a job after graduation.Life is all exploration ..and exploration leads to discovery...Nigeria is stagnant because she has refused to explore to discover the possibilities available to her..

The north will never accept to give state police a trial because the federal system is structured to favor them and put them in the position to use power/force on the rest.

Na Southern politicians and elites dey mumu themselves there.

NB: I sent you a dm... What are you on onto 1Xbet I'm into it but on the financials.

LAGOS STATE, SOME STATES IN THE SOUTH EAST AND THE NIGER DELTA REGION HAS THE RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN A STATE POLICE.

Why must the federal government deny states and local government the opportunity to establish state police.

Amotekun and other region security outfit in the south are suffering from lack of security equipment like guns etc because the federal government is against their set up.

A Northern political leader whose region does not have the resources is refusing to allow states in the south to have their way.

Now you want us to be happy in the so called ONE NIGERIA.

That is why power must shift to the southern part of Nigeria.

As long as the Buhari, El Rufai, Bala Mohammed are in power the southern part of Nigeria will continue to DEPROGRESS and suffer in the hand of heartless northerners.

LEFT FOR BUHARI, EL RUFAI ETC THEY ARE AGAINST TRUE FEDERALISM, RESOURCE CONTROL AND RESTRUCTURING GENERALLY.

I am blaming Ex-President Oluesegun Obasanjo and Ex-President Goodluck Jonathan for their refusal to restructure Nigeria during their 8 years and 5 years plus tenure they both had as President of Nigeria.

NORTHERNERS ARE AGAINST RESTRUCTURING BECAUSE THEY LACK RESOURCES IN THEIR HOMELAND.

But they are not prepared to allow the south to enjoy its progressive freedom.

That is why I will continue to criticise governor Nyesom Wike for recommending Bauchi governor, Alhaji Bala Mohammed for President come 2023 under the PDP political platform.

Nigeria need a versatile President from the south preferably from the south eastern part of Nigeria.

As the south east have not had their turn to become President of Nigeria.

The average northern Fulani man is one who wants power all the time, but the fact is that the they are power-drunk to further the course of Islam and not for economic development of the nation. You can see why all apparatus of force in Nigeria are concentrated in northern Nigeria. All military schools, airforce commands,police Academys, armories,war planes, military tanks etc are mostly in the north that you will think they are preparing for war against southern Nigeria.
Crimes hampers investment and economic development . Crimes are local and perpetuated by local residents.
A state police will tackle crimes from point of view of knowing the criminals because he lives among them .
Those opposing state police on the argument that Governors will misuse it, are just being insincere.
If a law establishing state police is that the governor cannot direct it in its day to day operations,recruitment, promotion, funding , dismissal is only subject to the House of Assembly, how can it be misused?
It is alleged that fight against crimes like kidnappings, robbery still thrives because police see victims as not their brothers and sisters.
If we are practicing America presidential system, we should go there and copy how state police works in America.Except we admit that as Nigerians, we are mentally inferior to the Americans.

vanbonattel:
So, killings and Ethnic cleansing under a lopsided police and army is the best?

Under the present circumstances, 95% of the police commissioners are fulani people. The IGP is a fulani man. Over 60% of the DPO and DCO are all fulani. And the fulani is just less than 4% of Nigeria population.

When the northerners start their killing spree in the south, they always have all the police and army protection they need because their brothers will protect and urge them on. This leads to immediate casualties and arrest of anyone that is not a northerner.

There can never be enforcement of anti grazing laws in the south because the police command structure is controlled by the same fulani that owns the cows.

There is much crime in the south because Adamus and Abduls that doesn't know anything about the terrain are in control of police formations and criminals will be running amok knowing that the Adamus knows motjing about the terrain they operate. They are just bribe collecting robots intent on checkpoint profits.

State police will help the locals who are the real stakeholders to police their domain in the way they want, nobody can do anyhow because we know his address. Police brutality will be reduced to the minimum because there will not be any Northern policeman who will shoot innocent people and get an automatic transfer back to Jigawa state where he continues him crimes.

you refer all northerners as flanis but call them less than 4% just like calling all southerners east and south south igbos and still call the 5states. We've gone beyond this lame lines. People are more exposed..

jumper524:
you refer all northerners as flanis but call them less than 4% just like calling all southerners east and south south igbos and still call the 5states. We've gone beyond this lame lines. People are more exposed..

Fulani are actually less than 4% of the North, but by sheer violence and humiliation, they have used fear and intimidation to cow the whole north, all places where violence are in the North are places where the fulani are trying to use Bandits to conquer the indigenous houses and other northern tribes. The fulanis are always helped by their brothers in the army and police.

abokimallam:
The average northern Fulani man is one who wants power all the time, but the fact is that the they are power-drunk to further the course of Islam and not for economic development of the nation. You can see why all apparatus of force in Nigeria are concentrated in northern Nigeria. All military schools, airforce commands,police Academys, armories,war planes, military tanks etc are mostly in the north that you will think they are preparing for war against southern Nigeria.
Crimes hampers investment and economic development . Crimes are local and perpetuated by local residents.
A state police will tackle crimes from point of view of knowing the criminals because he lives among them .
Those opposing state police on the argument that Governors will misuse it, are just being insincere.
If a law establishing state police is that the governor cannot direct it in its day to day operations,recruitment, promotion, funding , dismissal is only subject to the House of Assembly, how can it be misused?
It is alleged that fight against crimes like kidnappings, robbery still thrives because police see victims as not their brothers and sisters.
If we are practicing America presidential system, we should go there and copy how state police works in America.Except we admit that as Nigerians, we are mentally inferior to the Americans.

1000%

vanbonattel:


Fulani are actually less than 4% of the North, but by sheer violence and humiliation, they have used fear and intimidation to cow the whole north, all places where violence are in the North are places where the fulani are trying to use Bandits to conquer the indigenous houses and other northern tribes. The fulanis are always helped by their brothers in the army and police.

police ig is not fulani.

backbencher:


Not all of them.

And there is nothing wrong with a central police force.

You have central police force in Nigeria. What is the security situation in Nigeria?

Nigeria's central police is used as guardian to politicians and to protect the dysfunctional political structure and system, hardly for securing the lives and properties of the masses.

jumper524:
police ig is not fulani.

No, he is Ijaw?

Amah70:


You have central police force in Nigeria. What is the security situation in Nigeria?

Nigeria's central police is used as guardian to politicians and to protect the dysfunctional political structure and system, hardly for securing the lives and properties of the masses.

Eggzactly.

faste:
Tell that to the bird!!The northern hegemony is afraid of losing its power of oppression and control.

No no no. What amazing me most is how some Southerners feel that the North is so jobless that all they do is to think about them. I have an assignment for you. Gather the names of all the DSPs, DPOs, check their tribes. Then go and check how many state governors that are owing entitlements. With the current state of Nigeria, if state policing kicks-off then be assured that police men would turn to daylight robbers, car hijackers and 10× worse than they are now because the state governors would owe them entitlements and we all know that you don't owe armed Forces.

Damidave1124:
I'm tempted to bash Buhari, but haven gone through the write up, I must say he raised some salient points.

The governors, if given the opportunity will abuse it, they'll use it to which hunt their opponents till the subdue them.

Again, the north is scared of state police, because they'll lose their grip on Nigeria at large. Each state controlling the police will not favour the born to rule people

It is better for the governors to abuse it than dor the President and IG, who are currently abusing it without accountability.
At least, the people can hold the governors accountable.

Nigeria is not ready to be a nation.!

That is the way it is done all over the world.

backbencher:


Go away and play with your PDP friends APC man.

As for me, both parties out. Nigerians first

This guy it seems you have low intelligence.
I'm talking about your hypocrisy in saying you don't agree with someone but end up parroting the the person's opinion just to please your masters.
To hell with APC or PDP, na Nigeria first.

All am saying is give honour to whom honour is due, it won't make you less a man.

dat9jaguy:


This guy it seems you have low intelligence.
I'm talking about your hypocrisy in saying you don't agree with someone but end up parroting the the person's opinion just to please your masters.
To hell with APC or PDP, na Nigeria first.

All am saying is give honour to whom honour is due, it won't make you less a man.

Thank you for calling me low intelligence, APC man

Nigeria First. Parties, Buhari last.

Nigeria First.

Good e'en.

Amah70:


You have central police force in Nigeria. What is the security situation in Nigeria?

Nigeria's central police is used as guardian to politicians and to protect the dysfunctional political structure and system, hardly for securing the lives and properties of the masses.

Okay, so run for office and make them better.

Don't complain to me, I'm not your leader.

Emma15678:

No no no. What amazing me most is how some Southerners feel that the North is so jobless that all they do is to think about them. I have an assignment for you. Gather the names of all the DSPs, DPOs, check their tribes. Then go and check how many state governors that are owing entitlements. With the current state of Nigeria, if state policing kicks-off then be assured that police men would turn to daylight robbers, car hijackers and 10× worse than they are now because the state governors would owe them entitlements and we all know that you don't owe armed Forces.

Emma..when would you grow up? The so-called North sure likes the economic benefits coming from down South and so do think about them A LOT! And this is why they also want to control all the security structures under a Federal System to keep on perpetuating all these injustices!

At least when there is a real restructuring and a State Policing system emerges--injustices can be clearly tracked and accounted for unlike the current system where anyone with connections to Abuja can go scot-free.

Even I will apply for a gun license when the State Governors are in full control of issuing these to their responsible citizens for their self-defense. What is good for the primitive herder under this Federal System is also good for the civilized sane people under a law conscious State security system....

backbencher:


Thank you for calling me low intelligence, APC man

Nigeria First. Parties, Buhari last.

Nigeria First.

Good e'en.

You're welcome PDP man.
Yes o, always Nigeria first, but allow me love my Bubu in peace and give the old man credit where he deserves it.

Look at Ethiopia! There was a political disagreement and the tigrayan regional security forces are today at war with the federal security forces of Ethiopia. Nigeria has some of the worst bigots in the world and any attempt at empowering them in the name of state police will go very badly for the country. Imagine if Jonah Kang had state police, he would have used it to deal with the ANPP candidates who won the local government election in Jos North because he claimed they were not indigenes of the state

dat9jaguy:



You're welcome PDP man.

PDP is as useless as your party. GEJ, Yaradua and Obj are as useless as Buhari.

They all ran oil dependent economies.

For reasons why I don't support both parties...see here, here and here.

Some of us don't support either party, and some of us have a poor opinion of all Nigerian governments, past and present.

Till I see a Nigerian government facing the fact that we cannot rely on revenue from selling raw materails forever, and need to improve tax collection and industrial growth....

Yes o, always Nigeria first, but allow me love my Bubu in peace and give the old man credit where he deserves it.

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Then allow me to put Nigeria above your party and their party pdp, APC man.

YOU'RE WRONG MR. PRESIDENT.

YOU ARE PROPAGATING RIFA-RUGA ISLAMISATION FULANISATION AND ANARCHY IN THE LAND.

IGP IS NOTHING BUT A SECRETARY OF STATE IN THE FEDERATION. STATE GOVERNORS ARE THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICERS OF THEIR RESPECTIVE STATES AND HAVE DIRECT AUTHORITIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE SECURITIES OF THEIR STATES AND FOR THE EFFECTIVE CONTROL OF THE POLICE AND THE IGP APPOINTED BY THEM FOR THEIR STATES. FEDERAL IGP IS ADVISORY ONLY TO THE STATE GOVERNORS AND NOT THE STATES THEMSELVES. THE STATES ARE ANSWERABLE DIRECTLY TO THEIR GOVERNORS.

TRADITIONAL RULERS ARE CHAIRMEN OF THEIR RESPECTIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE TO THEIR RESPECTIVE GOVERNORS.

FEDERAL IGP AND THE PRESENTLY SO CALLED MINISTERS ARE NOTHING BUT MERE SECRETARIES OF STATES TO THE PRESIDING FEDERAL GOVERNOR, MR PRESIDENT AND THE STATE GOVERNORS. STATE GOVERNORS ARE FUNDAMENTALLY THE MINISTERS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

PLEASE DON'T INPUT MARSHALL INTERPRETATION INTO A FUNDAMENTAL DEMOCRATIC CONSTITUTION.

STOP CAUSING CHAOS IN THE LAND.

FROM ORISAORUNTO.

STATE POLICING, RESOURCING AND ELECTIONEERING AUTONOMY FOR OUR 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS. ANY FURTHER DELAY IS JUST PROLONGING THE DOOM'S DAY FOCUS FOR NIGERIA.

backbencher:


PDP is as useless as your party. GEJ, Yaradua and Obj are as useless as Buhari.

They all ran oil dependent economies.

For reasons why I don't support both parties...see here, here and here.

Some of us don't support either party, and some of us have a poor opinion of all Nigerian governments, past and present.

Till I see a Nigerian government facing the fact that we cannot rely on revenue from selling raw materails forever, and need to improve tax collection and industrial growth....



Then allow me to put Nigeria above your party and their party pdp, APC man.

You have rightly over-flogged your point here Backbencher and I quite get you...

...please come up to the front bench and also understand this fact: NO SANE INVESTOR WILL PUT MONEY IN A COUNTRY RIFE WITH THE CURRENT INSECURITIES AND CORRUPTION!

Why would Warren Buffet invest money in a place where Boko Haram and Fulani Terrorists are having a field day killing innocents, destroying houses and farmlands and wiping out whole communities? All of this is an off-shoot of a compromised and nepotistic Federal Security Structure that does not want to totally and fiercely tackle the root of the problem once and for all.

Hungry people do not have the strength to fight. These entitled Northern Terrorists have fed so well from Nigeria's oil and gas wealth....they can go on fighting forever. Cut of their oxygen supply with a complete and massive re-structuring where all states have to fend for themselves...then the Governors will get serious for once in their life times to attempt to rein control of their domains.