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Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by LagosShia: 11:39am On Jun 28, 2011 |
Martian: Martian,you must understand that there is a difference between what the followers do and what the religion says.there is also a difference between culture and religion (islam). the picture you show of blood-letting by my fellow shia brothers has no basis in islam or in the teachings of the 12 Imams from the Household of the Prophet Muhammad (sa).our shia scholars or the mar'ji'iyya in their majority have condemned the practice and it is banned in Iran where there is a shia-islamic religious political establish in control.but people still act emotional and follow a tradition which they believe expresses their grief and sorrow during the commemoration of the matyrdom of Imam Hussain (as) also know as Ashura. so please get your facts straight.i will further present verses of the Holy Quran to back up my statement and prove to the world that no where in islam or its holy book is there a call for violence or terrorism as the misinformed,ill-intended and the propagansists are bent on portraying. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by LagosShia: 11:45am On Jun 28, 2011 |
[size=18pt]DOES THE QURAN SAYS ALL INFIDELS MUST BE KILLED?DOES IT SUPPORT VIOLENCE AND TERROR?WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA FOR ARMED STRUGGLE?WHEN DOES THE QURAN ALLOWS TO FIGHT?[/size] HOLY QURAN 5:32: whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. (SHOW ME ONE VERSE FROM THE ENTIRE BIBLE LIKE THE ABOVE!) HOLY QURAN 2:256: There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower. HOLY QURAN 2:190: Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. HOLY QURAN 7:55: (O mankind!) Call upon your Lord humbly and in secret. Lo! He loveth not aggressors. HOLY QURAN 8:61: "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is the One that Heareth and Knoweth (all things)." HOLY QURAN 5:2: " , and let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the Sacred Mosque lead you to transgression (and hostility on your part). Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear Allah: for Allah is strict in punishment." HOLY QURAN 41:34: "Nor can Goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!" HOLY QURAN 4:135: "O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do." HOLY QURAN 16:90 "God advocates justice, charity, and regarding the relatives. And He forbids evil, vice, and transgression. He enlightens you, that you may take heed." HOLY QURAN 16:126: "And if ye do punish them, punish them no worse than they punished you: but if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient." HOLY QURAN 21:107: "And we have not sent you (Muhammad) but as a mercy for the world" NOW COMPARE WITH THE ATTROCITIES COMMITTED IN THE BIBLE: Numbers 31:17-18 17 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man intimately. 18 But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately. (HOW CAN A FOOT SOLDIER IN ANCIENT TIMES IDENTIFY IF A WOMAN IS VIRGIN THAN THROUGH “TESTING” HER VIRGINITY”). Luke 12:49-52 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? 50But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. Matthew 10:34 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 1 Samuel 6:19 19And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter. (note: the God of the Old Testament is the same God of the New Testament, lest Christians claim they no “longer” follow the Old Testament). |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by igbsam(m): 11:49am On Jun 28, 2011 |
So killing innocent people drinking beer jejely at one joint is justifiable. Oh come on guys, wake up. Killing is against the ways of God, Allah. Look at the story of cain and abel, just because cain murdered abel, he was cursed all d days of his life. No matter what religion you belong to, you have no right to shed human blood. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Builder: 12:15pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
Religion!!!!!! hmmmmm, in my view all religion of all sorts should be banned. In islamic religion is linked to violence and terror, then christiannity whould be linked to 419, brain-washing and money grabbing punks. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Sagamite(m): 12:15pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
Sweetnecta: Amsorry! I missed your point here. Explain this your analogy to me. How is it related to issues of violence we have with Islamic fundamentalists? How is Islam the 'son' in you beautiful story? As a very friendly guy, I will try and help you out. I suggest you use Boko Haram as a case study. Explain which body is the man that has put a gun to their heads and their andrenaline is leading to killing of "violent" Nigerians. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Nobody: 12:22pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
if only you all can know how much i hate and despise this forking religion of hate, murder and violence called islam. a perfect religion from satan why cant u learn from other religion like Hinduism and others. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by LagosShia: 12:29pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
rafhell: Mr.man, you have previously being tackled and the hell taken out of you in your usual bid to defame islam and insult muslims.i tackled you and your likes in 5 pages,starting with page #3 of the below thread.everyone can check my posts starting from page #3 replying to those insulting muslims and defaming islam in a bid to give the religion a bad image. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-653197.64.html as for your advice for us to learn from hinduism,you really got no idea then what hindus have done and the killings perpetrated by them in india.when it comes to slaughtering a goat or eating beef,they pretend to be harmless and soft and make people believe they cannot hurt a fly.but when it comes to massacreing people,the hindus forget that life is sacred. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Sagamite(m): 12:37pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
LagosShia: Hindus are the second most violent religious people after Muslims. They are not peaceful too. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Guyman02: 12:40pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history. The Quran: Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers], and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war, even if the historical context was not. However, there are also two worrisome pieces to this verse. The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of "persecution" (a qualification that is ambiguous at best). The second is that fighting may persist until "religion is for Allah." The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring. Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse. Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah'). Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers. Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…" Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse). Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain, " Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense? Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end." Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah" From the historical context we know that the "persecution" spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj. Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group, since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah." According to Ibn Ishaq (324), Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that "Allah must have no rivals." Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember." Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy." Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight, " Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam. Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars. Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, " Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad. Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in just the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths. Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell. Additional Notes: Other than the fact that Muslims haven't killed every non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion. Where Islam is in dominant (as in the Middle East and Pakistan) religious minorities suffer brutal persecution with little resistance. Where Islam is in the minority (as in Thailand, the Philippines and Europe) there is the constant threat of terror if Muslim demands are not met. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by georgecso(m): 12:41pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
Islam is a violent religion. They love blood shedding. The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. You are very correct |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Nobody: 12:42pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
then my question is : what does it take for islam to remove violence and murder from their religion. what does it take for them to embrace peace. what does it take for them to learn to respect other peoples faith and religion. we all know the obvious, if only we can be sincere and unbiased |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by georgecso(m): 12:45pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
then my question is : what does it take for islam to remove violence and murder from their religion. what does it take for them to embrace peace. what does it take for them to learn to respect other peoples faith and religion. Expect nothing less from people that don't understand the meaning of love. God is Love. They are simply bunch of failures! |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by bisiaet: 12:51pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
The religion is violent in absolute I wont stop untill these people called a conference of people with commom sense. They are really annoying me. By the way who gave the Muslim the audacity to eve be calling non muslim an "Infidel"this statement angers me a lot. To be honest a full atheist is better than them and they are calling someone infidel nonsense. Who is infidel? is it the peace loving other religion or the mad stuff learn it hard or kill islamic of a thing?? Was Christainity not existing before Islam then why cant the early christain wipe them out? Sometime I do blame early christain for been too nice to this people because if they had be clean up then today the world would not be in this position where killing is a fun, bombing a game, bloodsucking vamperism is in the name of religion is a play thing. I lost every respect for this religion just because of this so called Hausa in Nigeria I just lost total respect because I thought it was a religion to mingle with but now I realised mingle with them I may be their next target or Boko animal next victim and so the so called silly pretending Northern asshole leaders will keep quiet . I am out of this craps plssss Rubbish |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by LagosShia: 12:56pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
Guyman02: no where does the Quran asks Muslims to wage war on unbelievers simply because they are called by that name.they are called by that name because the unbelievers were aggressors who waged war simply because they hated islam as many of you do.then the Quran ask Muslims to wage war because they have become victims. Holy Quran 2:256-257: "There is no compulsion in religion — the right way is indeed clearly distinct from error. So whoever disbelieves in the devil and believes in Allah, he indeed lays hold on the firmest handle which shall never break. And Allah is Hearing, Knowing. Allah is the Friend of those who believe — He brings them out of darkness into light. And those who disbelieve, their friends are the devils who take them out of light into darkness. They are the companions of the Fire; therein they abide." Holy Quran 22:39: "Permission (to fight) is given to those on whom war is made, because they are oppressed" HOLY QURAN 2:190: [size=18pt]Fight[/size] in the way of Allah [size=18pt]against those who fight against you[/size], but[b] [size=18pt]begin not hostilities[/size][/b]. Lo! [size=18pt]Allah loveth not aggressors[/size]. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by dkelvin225: 1:01pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
misconception about Islam, A man is taking a walk in Central park in New York. Suddenly he sees a little girl being attacked by a pit bull dog . He runs over and starts fighting with the dog. He succeeds in killing the dog and saving the girl's life. A policeman who was watching the scene walks over and says: "You are a hero, tomorrow you can read it in all, the newspapers: "Brave New Yorker saves the life of little girl" The man says: - "But I am not a New Yorker!" "Oh ,then it will say in newspapers in the morning: 'Brave American saves life of little girl'" – the policeman answers. "But I am not an American!" – says the man. "Oh, what are you then? " The man says: - "I am a Saudi !" The next day the newspapers says: "Islamic extremist kills innocent American dog. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by LagosShia: 1:02pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
bisiaet: i am a proud infidel in respect to christianity.there is nothing to be ashamed of when called an infidel by a religion you chose not to believe in.it is different if you believe in islam and you're called an infidel.an infidel means an "unbeliever in something".
christianity did that in spain and also partially in the phillipines.read about the inquisition. but on the other hand someone just posted a saying by a christian missioanry that speaks of the tolerance of the muslims who could have wiped out christianity totally from the middle east in particular but christianity is tolerated to this day.
islam is not an hausa religion.so do not be fooled or try to fool anyone. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Sagamite(m): 1:08pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
LagosShia: You have to be clear that the term "hostilities" can be interpreted as one wishes. You need to provide the part the Quran defines what it regards as "hostilities". I am sure that there are several fundamentalist so-called "scholars" that are preaching a lot of non-violent acts as "hostilities" towards muslims, Islam or Allah. These texts in the Quran is leading to a lot of Muslims being savages. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Nobody: 1:09pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
by the we take a census of all killed by muslims and compare them to the millions killed by america in Iraq and afghanistan alone the real perpetrators of violence and terror will be revaealed. Lets not forget the thousands being killed by Russia in chechenya and dagistan, nor the thousands massacred by the zionists in occupied palestine, or the thousands of muslim men killed and thousands of women raped in serbia while UN soldiers watched. I did not mention the numerous wedding processions wiped out by NATO forces in Afghanistan. Yet because the bulk of the media is owned by anti islamic groups all we hear is Islam and violence! |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Nobody: 1:10pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
by the time we take a census of all killed by muslims and compare them to the millions killed by america in Iraq and afghanistan alone the real perpetrators of violence and terror will be revaealed. Lets not forget the thousands being killed by Russia in chechenya and dagistan, nor the thousands massacred by the zionists in occupied palestine, or the thousands of muslim men killed and thousands of women violated in serbia while UN soldiers watched. I did not mention the numerous wedding processions wiped out by NATO forces in Afghanistan. Yet because the bulk of the media is owned by anti islamic groups all we hear is Islam and violence! |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Sagamite(m): 1:15pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
abubello: Stop chatting shyt! How can you compare deaths in war with someone waking up and going to kill people because they are kafirs or he feels his religion has been disrespected? You can as well compare deaths in war to death in armed robbery, you will make better sense. Go and take a census of those killed in recent times in the name of religion and you will see all other religions combined is nowhere near Islamic fundamentalist murders. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Nobody: 1:20pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
sagamite So al l the palestinians killed were killede at war? |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Nayah(f): 1:23pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
cause people are narrow minded |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by LagosShia: 1:23pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
Sagamite: first let me ask you to get a dictionary.secondly i will present to your the verse in question in different Quran translations.lastly,i will present to you the the commentary by a famous Quranic exegesis. Pickthall: Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. Yusuf Ali: Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. English Quranic Commentary on Verse 2:190 by Ayatollah Agha Mehdi Pooya:
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Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by golamike: 1:25pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
vedaxcool: |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Guyman02: 1:28pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
The reasons for intolerance and violence are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses that are obviously abrogated by later ones. This is why Muslim apologists speak of the "risks" of trying to interpret the Quran without their "assistance" - even while claiming that it is a perfect book. Far from being mere history or theological construct, the violent verses of the Quran have played a key role in actual massacre and genocide. This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni's bloody conquest, including the massacre of those who defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today's Turkey. Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran. So ingrained is violence in the religion that Islam has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by golamike: 1:29pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
Mr (sorry imam) vedaxcool, i don't seem to understand ur argument here. Are the Nigerian muslims also fighting the US citizens in Nigeria? Have u ever lived in the northern part of the country? I doubt u have. Otherwise u'll see that ur muslim brothers are very wicked and inhumane set of human beings. Why killing a fellow country man (Nigerian) because he practises a different religion. I live in Jos so i can tell u what we're facing here. Let me share a story with u (Source: my mother inlaw) She was at Ahmadu Bello way last weekend for shopping when she discovered some force men were interrogating and arresting a few bike men while some were allowed to go. Suddenly a bike man (supposedly a muslim) came speeding and was stopped but refused. The force men pursued and caught him and d next thing they heard was "allah-hu-akbar, allah-hu-akbar (i'm not and can NEVER be a muslim so don't crucify me for wrong spelling). That drew people's attention and everybody became cautious because most of d past religious conflicts up north started in dis manner. The man was apparently shouting to attract d attention of muslims around, giving a false impression dat he's been molested prolly for d sake of religion. The man was reportedly beaten cos of dat and arrested. Even his fellow bike men were upset and told d force men to beat him d more for raising a false alarm. My question: what has "allah-hu-akbar" got to do with doing the right thing? Some Christians were obviously arrested as it was not an arrest focused on muslims alone. This is one story to let u know these muslims don't think b4 acting most times and that they always look for d slightest opportunity to cause chaos. Now malam vedaxcool can u tell me why ur brothers keep killing and maiming Christians in Nigeria if Islamic war was against d US? According to u, Americans are constantly terrorising the muslims, are Nigerian Christians also terrorising u people? Why is it that any issue, no matter how insensitive or irrelevant will always make muslims "the peaceful fellows" mad and start killing Christians? I'd also like u to tell me which American citizen ur boko haram brothers are fighting against in Nigeria. Finally, i want u to know that for every human being you kill, there's judgement awaiting you! |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by LagosShia: 1:30pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
Sagamite: "Violence And Christianity Again"! https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-697223.0.html mind you,the wars started by bush were started based on his religious conviction.he termed the war on afghanistan a "crusade".also what is known as israel is called a "jewish state" with the help of big brother america and the christian/atheist west. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by dkelvin225: 1:31pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
Today Religions are being interpret to different angle. Which ever way u interpret ur believes either in accordance to what is being revealed or to suit ur own taste. Till the end when we we all meet our Lord. Only those bestowed the wisdom and understanding knows the truth and seek the truth. wa idi oun gbogbo daju,ki o si di otito mu. Dont say or broadcast what u dont know and have evidence of just becos u want to write against someone believe or u wat to raise ur own believe. Only those bestowed the wisdom and understanding knows the truth and seek the truth. Till the end when we we all meet our Lord. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by sley4life(m): 1:34pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
they luf violence |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Guyman02: 1:35pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said about Islam is that it is a Religion of Peace. If every standard by which the West is judged and condemned (slavery, imperialism, intolerance, women's rights, sexuality, warfare, ) were applied equally to Islam, the verdict would be absolutely devastating. Islam never gives up what it conquers, be it religion, culture, language or life. Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at moral progress. It is the least open to dialogue and the most self-absorbed. It is convinced of its own perfection, yet brutally shuns self-examination and represses criticism. This is what makes the verses of violence so dangerous. They are given the weight of divine command. While Muslim terrorists take them as literally as anything else in the Quran, and understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, moderates offer little to contradict them - outside of opinion. Indeed, what do they have? Speaking of peace and love may win over the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of Islam's holiest book either speaks to Allah's hatred for non-Muslims or calls for their death, forced conversion, or subjugation, it's little wonder that sympathy for terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the broader community - even if most Muslims personally prefer not to interpret their religion in this way. In fact, many Muslims are simply unaware of the Quran's near absence of verses that preach universal non-violence. This is because their understanding of Islam comes from what they are taught by others. In the West, it is typical for Muslims to come to believe that their religion must be like Christianity - preaching the New Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance - because Muslims are taught that Islam is supposed to be superior in every way. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to learn that the evidence of the Quran and the bloody history of Islam are very much in contradiction to this. Others simply accept the violence. In 1991, a Palestinian couple in America was convicted of stabbing their daughter to death for being too Westernized (Boko Haram comes to mind in the Nigerian context). A family friend came to their defense, excoriating the jury for not understanding the "culture", claiming that the father was merely following "the religion" and saying that the couple had to "discipline their daughter or lose respect." (source). There are just too many Muslims who take the Quran literally, and too many others who couldn't care less about the violence done in the name of Islam. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by Nobody: 1:36pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
there is no use arguing with these enemies of God and humanity. they know the truth but instead chose to justify murder in the name of their forking religion. there religion is clearly from Satan but they are too foolish and ignorant to know. if not for the forking bloody usman dan fodio and his jihadist, the likes of abubello and Sagamite would never have known islam, in Nigeria, not to talk of defending its barbarism. |
Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by LagosShia: 1:40pm On Jun 28, 2011 |
golamike: blame the northern attitude on illitracy and ignorance and not on islam.how much of islam does that okada rider knows?my issue is not with condemning the fools but with those who try to tarnish the image of the religion itself.infact neither the ignorant northerner nor the zealot christian know anything about islam. as for the question whether muslims are terrorised in nigeria,you can take a look at the attitude of so called christian leaders to the establishment of an islamic bank funded by muslim businessmen.they have issued stu.pid,ignorant and provocative statements to cause division and offend muslims when there is no need for it.these so called christian leaders forget that there are christian universities in nigeria where muslim students are forced to comform to the religion of the university or leave.why cant they also exercise their choice if they do not want to bank in an islamic bank?everyone should be free to deal whereever he wants. |
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