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Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by MyVILLAGEpeople(m): 1:03pm On Feb 24, 2022
Minjim:


See, the attack in Lybia was all Ghadafi's fault.

He stayed too long.

Most Lybians want him out. The US only helped them.


Are you saying Ukrainian are happy with Russia's invasion?

In Iraq and Lybia the citizens themselves captured their tyrant leaders.


Look at what this one is saying ?
Gadaffi stayed too long and the US only helped them out indeed. That was the lie the western media sold to you guys. By the war is Libya better or worse off now ?
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by MyVILLAGEpeople(m): 1:05pm On Feb 24, 2022
suicidesheep:
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Dont let media deceive you. Gaddafi was loved by his people, only reason US killed him was cause he was a threat to the petro-dollar( U can look that up). Gaddafi wanted to unite Africa and break the west influence in Africa.
Why do u think almost every foreign exchange is done in dollars. Its cause it makes the us stronger..
For too long the us lied to use that they are peace keepers, reality is only dawning on us that us cares for nothing but their selfish interest.

U say libyans and Iraqis killed their leader.. when they were manipulated by US.
After killing those leaders are those countries better off now.
Any country the us has invaded in the name of democracy is in shambles now.
Look at Iraq, libya, Afghanistan and others before US, they were doing relatively well compared to post-US era.
I hope u Also know it's the US that created al-Qaeda just to Bleep up the middle east

Thanks for Schooling that small boy.
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by Penguin2: 1:17pm On Feb 24, 2022
kponkedenge:


Lol very funny.

First and foremost, Trump was impeached for trying to withold aid from Ukraine until Ukraine manufactures dirty on Biden, secondly Trump won't have talked Putin at all out.... Like he's already doing now to encourage Putin to continue and has been tongue lashing Ukraine.

Thirdly, if Trump was president and Putin attacked, he would have not even placed any type of sanctions Biden is doing now.

Fourthly, Trump wanted NATO weakened... and who do you think would be a beneficiary of NATO's weakness? Russia!

So when I see you people praising Trump here and on twitter, I just laugh.

All the right wing channels in the US are siding with Putin over Ukraine, if Trump was president, you would hear something like "Well Ukraine is a corrupt country and I'm happy Putin is stepping in to clean the mess up"
That's where it will end.

Is it not this same Trump that abandoned US base in Syria and allowed the Russians remove american flags and mount their own.... Did you hear any statement from Trump on that?

At least Biden still use to call Putin out and criticize him.... and I'll also give Trump credit too for calling out China and other countries for criticism.... But have you ever seen Trump call out Putin.... despite the kind of bad mouth Trump has?

Trump was scared of the guy..... So drop all that Trump praise abeg, he would have even handled the situation worse.

Well, you seem to have better understanding of the intricacies of things between Putin and Trump.

Maybe Trump was truly Putin’s weapon.
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by timefarm(m): 1:17pm On Feb 24, 2022
TruthSocial:


Who gave America the right over Libya , Uganda, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan leadership ? America have called the leadership of this countries illegitimate and their military have gone under the pretense of military intervention or in other terms sponsored unrest which lead to ousting of the government with the outmost aim of fostering a pro American government. The coup in Ukraine in 2014 that led to the ouster of the guy the people voted for and the emergence of the fostered Pro EU president is what is causing most of the tension in Ukraine today, the Eastern Ukraine region became a separatist region because they were against the government that was fostered on them, in return the Ukraine government attacked and have been committing crimes against the people in that region for about 8years, many people don’t know that a lot of people have been displaced in this region as a result of the Ukrainian government aggression, Putin is right to call it a junta and Ukraine a US colony.

In the present Ukraine government, the current president is jailing journalist and closing down news stations critical of his government, he sent the opposition leader to jail and corruption is high but America says they are defending democracy. The hypocrisy.

What American has done since time immemorial that is so distasteful to folks around the world and why many countries hate America is what Putin is doing to Ukraine, it should rather be them than Putin. Hypocrites.

In my world, a new world order will soon emerge, America will not be at the forefront, Russia and china will take the lead
All the mumu talk by enemy of US. When did US invade Tunisia? And Afghanistan invasion is not justified to you? Except you are a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer.


Naa you people all giving excuses that Putin will not invade when US was kept reiterating it that he wants to invade.Now he invaded, you can't talk again.


Let's even assume the President is jailing journalists as you have said, is Russia not doing worse or you dont read news? To the extent of killing critics in as far as UK. And to correct injustice is to roll tanks to a sovereign country UNPROVOKED?

Issue is between Ukraine and Russia, you didnot address it, only US concerns you.

I dont know if you have been outside Nigeria before but clearly you have not been to China and dont know the Chinese, if not you will not be clamoring for China to be your world power.
Forget about any new world order. US is still the most lenient world power that ever exist. Go and check your history book if you have.

US is still staying on top there for few more decades to come.
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by suicidesheep: 1:22pm On Feb 24, 2022
TruthSocial:


Who gave America the right over Libya , Uganda, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan leadership ? America have called the leadership of this countries illegitimate and their military have gone under the pretense of military intervention or in other terms sponsored unrest which lead to ousting of the government with the outmost aim of fostering a pro American government. The coup in Ukraine in 2014 that led to the ouster of the guy the people voted for and the emergence of the fostered Pro EU president is what is causing most of the tension in Ukraine today, the Eastern Ukraine region became a separatist region because they were against the government that was fostered on them, in return the Ukraine government attacked and have been committing crimes against the people in that region for about 8years, many people don’t know that a lot of people have been displaced in this region as a result of the Ukrainian government aggression, Putin is right to call it a junta and Ukraine a US colony.

In the present Ukraine government, the current president is jailing journalist and closing down news stations critical of his government, he sent the opposition leader to jail and corruption is high but America says they are defending democracy. The hypocrisy.

What American has done since time immemorial that is so distasteful to folks around the world and why many countries hate America is what Putin is doing to Ukraine, it should rather be them than Putin. Hypocrites.

In my world, a new world order will soon emerge, America will not be at the forefront, Russia and china will take the lead

Lol I agree with you..everyone is tired of US policing the world but we dont Russia or china in charge.
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by Minjim: 2:19pm On Feb 24, 2022
suicidesheep:
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Dont let media deceive you. Gaddafi was loved by his people, only reason US killed him was cause he was a threat to the petro-dollar( U can look that up). Gaddafi wanted to unite Africa and break the west influence in Africa.
Why do u think almost every foreign exchange is done in dollars. Its cause it makes the us stronger..
For too long the us lied to use that they are peace keepers, reality is only dawning on us that us cares for nothing but their selfish interest.

U say libyans and Iraqis killed their leader.. when they were manipulated by US.
After killing those leaders are those countries better off now.
Any country the us has invaded in the name of democracy is in shambles now.
Look at Iraq, libya, Afghanistan and others before US, they were doing relatively well compared to post-US era.
I hope u Also know it's the US that created al-Qaeda just to Bleep up the middle east

Did you see what his people you claimed love him did to him when they caught him?

Did you see Americans there?
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by suicidesheep: 2:27pm On Feb 24, 2022
Minjim:


Did you see what his people you claimed love him did to him when they caught him?

Did you see Americans there?

Do you expect the Americans to get their own hand dirty
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by Minjim: 3:11pm On Feb 24, 2022
suicidesheep:


Do you expect the Americans to get their own hand dirty

Please, that's a lame excuse.

If your people love you, external forces can't get you
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by adetem(m): 3:22pm On Feb 24, 2022
God bless u jare, some of them think is not their country.... This is 3rd ww coming and it may affect everybody.
ZUBY77:
Throughout history, Kingdoms has risen against Kingdoms. World map has been altered several times and millions paid the ultimate price with blood. This will not be the end but Putin needs to back down on this. The world advanced beyond this long ago.

For those of you kids on nairaland drumming for war, even though your voices are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, understand that if this war escalates, you maybe be involved in more ways than you imagine.
War is not a child's play.
This was how Hitler was encouraged until the World decided to send him a message.
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by frog12: 3:32pm On Feb 24, 2022
wetin be dis? you invade SYRIA and IRAQ, no sanctions
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by TruthSocial: 4:36pm On Feb 24, 2022
timefarm:

All the mumu talk by enemy of US. When did US invade Tunisia? And Afghanistan invasion is not justified to you? Except you are a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer.


Naa you people all giving excuses that Putin will not invade when US was kept reiterating it that he wants to invade.Now he invaded, you can't talk again.


Let's even assume the President is jailing journalists as you have said, is Russia not doing worse or you dont read news? To the extent of killing critics in as far as UK. And to correct injustice is to roll tanks to a sovereign country UNPROVOKED?

Issue is between Ukraine and Russia, you didnot address it, only US concerns you.

I dont know if you have been outside Nigeria before but clearly you have not been to China and dont know the Chinese, if not you will not be clamoring for China to be your world power.
Forget about any new world order. US is still the most lenient world power that ever exist. Go and check your history book if you have.

US is still staying on top there for few more decades to come.

If by now anyone in the world doesn’t know there’s a power shift, financially I’d like you to take a look at the trading partner of the US government in the 90’s and early 2000’s and check china’s trading partners then, now go ahead and check china trading partners now, you would see what a power shift looks like, china is the manufacturing capital of the world, what doesn’t America buy or produce in china, check their trade deficit, it’s evident, china is by far the largest lender, name the country, industrial and tech revolution is china is second to none, militarily they have everything, highest number of military personnel, Russia herself is the 3rd largest energy producer, we like to call Russia a poor nation but Europe is dependent on Russian gas. In essence, America has driven china and Russia and other like minds so much that they are forming a partnership, Russia just signed a unlimited partnership/collaboration on everything memo with china, they are building a gas pipeline and railway between the two countries, the two counties are two of the most populous countries in the world, the alliance of these two countries is potentially dangerous and good to counter america, what scares america the most if not loosing the dollar power, when that is gone, there’s nothing left, forget military might, the world is looking and seeing that the only thing america has left is sanctions which will even affect them as well.

The American invasion of Afghanistan can not be justified, after 20years, the taliban is back in power, in Iraq, the country is in shambles, we know how the president died over there.

Putin rolling tanks into Ukraine is bad on paper, but the Ukrainian government killing the people of Eastern Ukraine since 2014 is bad as well, you want to tell me the way the Nigeria gov killed people in the Eastern region because they want self determination is justified, No, it’s a two way street.

Why I am concerned about the US is, what is it in the national interest of America to be or want to be in Ukraine, what’s about Ukraine that is making america and the rest of the west so hyper, is it now on there border so why the venting.

In as much I don’t want Russia and china alliance, it can’t be helped now because china has clearly taking over. The america and the propaganda story of the then times is gone.
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by suicidesheep: 5:06pm On Feb 24, 2022
Minjim:


Please, that's a lame excuse.

If your people love you, external forces can't get you

Then you clearly dont know the influence of US in d world.
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by babajero(m): 8:53pm On Feb 24, 2022
hammer567:
US dont have this oO




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNgoeelGg
That was what Japan thought when they attacked America during wwll.
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by Tzar(m): 12:45am On Feb 25, 2022
You forget that Trump licked Putin’s ass like a cheap slut??
Penguin2:
Don’t we all miss Trump?

First, if Trump was still POTUS, Putin wouldn’t be taking this action because Trump would have talked him out of it as friends they are.

The American people didn’t like Trump getting close to Putin but Trump was simply using the Sun Tzu principle that says “keep your friends close and your enemies closer”.

However, if Putin dared to attack, Trump wouldn’t be reading sermons by now.

“Waiting till Thursday to address the American people”.

Imagine that nonsense. Russia for don dey collect as e dey hot.

I’m still waiting for Israel sha.

One mind tells me invasion of Ukraine is Putin’s peripheral excuse. Man got more reasons for starting this war. And an eye should be kept on China and Iran.
Re: Vassily Nebenzia: Russia Is Against The Junta That Is In Power In Kiyv by Thazard(m): 7:26am On Feb 25, 2022
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