Igboid:


Alabo. Your Ijaw brother admitted that Basden is the all and all to settle this case as Basden claimed in the above attached report by your brother that other research done on Niger Delta were poor, which should include your Kolle Sigmund last resort.
When Basden was done reviewing all previous literature on the subject matter, he ended up with the below as the authentic map of Igboland with Ijawland clearly designated to the West of Igboland.

This topic was done and dusted long ago, even JANK23H shamefully left the stage when he saw he had lost the intellectual battle on this .
Basden he was hoping to ride on to land grab on Igbo territories of Bonny and Opobo, rammed a sharp sword into his entrails with that map.

You too should rest.
Since you unlike JANK23H are not interested on intellectual debate, your mantra has always been "come and claim it physically".
You should just chill and try and fortify yourself physically against 40million plus strong Igbo nation.
Because when we finally win Bonny and Opobo in international court post Nigeria and you dare stand on our way, we will not only claim back our territories, we will occupy yours as punitive measures too.

Graysons:
Always making mouth and chest beating online when in reality,you are nothing but toothless dogs. In other for you to claim people or territories,the inhabitants of those places have to be on the same page with you,how can you drag and claim Bonny and Opobo when the people there are not even buying your Igbo whatever,I pity for una.

Igboid:


Bonny and Opobo people have consistently rejected your Ijaw language while tightly guarding and holding unto their native Igbo language.
Your days are numbered.

Graysons:
Lmao always typing your fantasies online, making empty threats on Nl then pat yourselves on the back for your dumbness.Have you been to Bonny before? Do you know how the average Bonny person feel about Igbo people? Do you know the language of an finima man? No you don't. Like I said,I pity for una.

Igboid:


Alabo. Your Ijaw brother admitted that Basden is the all and all to settle this case as Basden claimed in the above attached report by your brother that other research done on Niger Delta were poor, which should include your Kolle Sigmund last resort.
When Basden was done reviewing all previous literature on the subject matter, he ended up with the below as the authentic map of Igboland with Ijawland clearly designated to the West of Igboland.

This topic was done and dusted long ago, even JANK23H shamefully left the stage when he saw he had lost the intellectual battle on this .
Basden he was hoping to ride on to land grab on Igbo territories of Bonny and Opobo, rammed a sharp sword into his entrails with that map.

You too should rest.
Since you unlike JANK23H are not interested on intellectual debate, your mantra has always been "come and claim it physically".
You should just chill and try and fortify yourself physically against 40million plus strong Igbo nation.
Because when we finally win Bonny and Opobo in international court post Nigeria and you dare stand on our way, we will not only claim back our territories, we will occupy yours as punitive measures too.

JANK23H:

Stop mentioning this guy.

This debate is over as far as I'm concerned and I've cleared your doubt.You can turn logic on its head for all I care.

That map there showed were Igbos are located,in Bonny they are slaves.Do I have to teach you comprehension too?

Make your head dey straight o.

Igboid:



Haha!
Nope.
Map clearly delineated Igbo land.
Basden said that Igbos were slaves in the "Neighborhood of Bonny", you are the one with comprehension issue.
Either way, there was never a time he said that Bonny people were Ijaws.
He clearly showed where Ijawland is.
And he made it obvious that Abua, Ogbia, Obulom, Epie-Attisa, Andomiy, etc are not Ijaw.

Igboid:



Haha!
Nope.
Map clearly delineated Igbo land.
Basden said that Igbos were slaves in the "Neighborhood of Bonny", you are the one with comprehension issue.
Either way, there was never a time he said that Bonny people were Ijaws.
He clearly showed where Ijawland is.
And he made it obvious that Abua, Ogbia, Obulom, Epie-Attisa, Andomiy, etc are not Ijaw.

Igboid:


Lol! Grasping at straws now, are we not?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/in%20the%20neighborhood%20of

JANK23H:

I gave you three different meanings.

Igboid:
Ekealterago.
Another good material here.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1778485?read-now=1&refreqid=excelsior%3Af5f1e99ce420241777bf54f7579fd5d7&seq=31#page_scan_tab_contents

I marked the relevant part. "Opobo and Bonny Ibos".
Yet another independent author Ijaws are going to hate in addition to Basden, Captain Crow, William Baike, Arthur Glynn, we now have A.E Kitson.

Ekealterego:

Thanks, a worthy addition.
Interesting that Darker in 1905 made similar observations.

Igboid:


Finima is only but a small insignificant part of Bonny.
We already know how the real Bonny and Opobo people feel about Ijaws.
They constant and persistent rejection of Ijaw Language despite the fraudulent Alagoa best efforts, says all.

SaintBishop:
Who told you that Obulum people are not ijaws? Have you meet any Obulum who has come out to say that they are not ijaws? stop projecting the rejection given to you by the ikwerres and the Etches that they are not igbos on others, it's not our fault that they reject you Igbos and your I too know attitude. Despite you Igbos bribing and giving them top position in your Ohanaeze whatever.

Igboid:


You have a snippet of the Darker 1905 book?
Post it here and the other main Opobo and Bonny thread.

JANK23H:

I gave you three different meanings.

Igboid:
IBO: Southern Nigeria - some considerations of its Structure, People and Natural History

A. E. Kitson c.1913

The Geographical Journal - v.41

The Ibo tribe is potentially a very powerful one, from which much can be expected with consolidation, the spread of modern ideas and careful, strictly just direction.

The people are observant, reflective thinkers, and rapid actors, with a remarkably keen and true sense of justice and determination to get it. They possess strong individuality.

Like the Yorubas, they are, as a people, honest, intelligent, industrious, cleanly, hospitable, and humorous, though more emotional, artistic, and musical. They are distinctly warlike, especially the branches east of the Niger.

In some districts every town is surrounded by a trench, wall, and belt of thick bush; in some cases with also an outer line of gun pits. In others each wall-girt house has its own fighting tower — storeyed and loopholed — commanding the entrance.

This condition of the country reflects strongly the character of the people.

As agriculturists after intelligent native methods, they are of a high order. It is a perfect picture and a revelation to see their farms when in their full wealth of verdure. There is no doubt that when settled conditions arrive the people will raise much produce for other than local markets.
...
Most tribes have a love of music and a crude knowledge of art, but the Ibo stands pre-eminent, his innate musical ability manifesting itself in various ways.

I have often enjoyed listening to the sweet melody, heartily sung by a group of young girls and children; to the soft chant of my garrulous carriers; to the simple but sweetly perfect dance-song of a swaying circle of women of Ebo, celebrating the killing of a crocodile; to the rhythmic, sonorous, and harmonious war-song of naked Ezzi [savages].

There are various kinds of musical instruments; among them some of the dulcimer type, but with wooden, cane, or palm plates; some like harps and rude violins; others like pipes and flutes.

The Ibos and the Binis have distinct artistic ability.

Many of the Ibo branches adorn their mud-walled houses, wooden doors, shrines, and playgrounds with neat modellings, paintings, and carvings of natural objects and geometrical designs. The people of the Ugep district, east of the Cross river, have fine examples of carved tree-trunks and blocks of stone.
...
Though most natives trade, the principal travelling traders are Hausas and Aros by land-transport; and Lagosians, Jekris, Brass men,Opobo and Bonny Ibos, and Efiks by canoes.

Iron smelting was largely done before bar-iron was imported. Yorubas still do so at Bode, Ijegun, Iporin, Odo Ogun, etc. The ore is magnetite, occurring in schists and in dykes of granite and pegmatite.

A. E. Kitson

The Geographical Journal - v.41

1913

Ekealterego:

Yes, I have the Darker book

Darker, G. F. (1905). Niger Delta Natives: With Special Reference to Maintaining and Increasing the Population of Southern Nigeria. Journal of the Royal African Society, 4(14), 206–225. http://www.jstor.org/stable/714818
The link is at the end.
A similar description of Jekiri (Itshekiri)

Check out the highlights on Opobo.

He clearly without doubt named Opobo, Ibo, even with live pictures to legitimise his claims.
CC: Bkayy, Slayerforever, Eastlink, Eastibae, Ofoigbo, 9pluto. Come and see evidence with pictures before 1905.

Igboid:



Haha!
Nope.
Map clearly delineated Igbo land.
Basden said that Igbos were slaves in the "Neighborhood of Bonny", you are the one with comprehension issue.
Either way, there was never a time he said that Bonny people were Ijaws.
He clearly showed where Ijawland is.
And he made it obvious that Abua, Ogbia, Obulom, Epie-Attisa, Andomiy, etc are not Ijaw.

Igboid:



Haha!
Nope.
Map clearly delineated Igbo land.
Basden said that Igbos were slaves in the "Neighborhood of Bonny", you are the one with comprehension issue.
Either way, there was never a time he said that Bonny people were Ijaws.
He clearly showed where Ijawland is.
And he made it obvious that Abua, Ogbia, Obulom, Epie-Attisa, Andomiy, etc are not Ijaw.

Ekealterego:

Yes, I have the Darker book

Darker, G. F. (1905). Niger Delta Natives: With Special Reference to Maintaining and Increasing the Population of Southern Nigeria. Journal of the Royal African Society, 4(14), 206–225. http://www.jstor.org/stable/714818
The link is at the end.
A similar description of Jekiri (Itshekiri)

Check out the highlights on Opobo.

He clearly without doubt named Opobo, Ibo, even with live pictures to legitimise his claims.
CC: Bkayy, Slayerforever, Eastlink, Eastibae, Ofoigbo, 9pluto. Come and see evidence with pictures before 1905.

BKayy:

I've told the drunks that they will get tired of fighting and lose the little they think they have after Nigeria.
We have history, language and culture by our side. No need for further arguments.

mrvitalis:

50% Igbo 50% ijaw

Alabo7978:

There's a researcher who claimed to have linked close to a thousand of our words to the medu neter of kemet(Egypt)

SosoKaranuli:


I've noticed this in some Ijaw words too! I've been desperately searching for articles on this! Would love to connect!

SlayerForever:
Ijaw keep claiming the word Oru but yet they have no tangible explanation as regards the term Oru.

Let me tell you what I think. I think the Orus were actually Riverine Igbos that were in existence from the beginning of the Igbo race. Oru is more evenly spread and established across Igbo society that in Ijaw society. Oru appears a foreign concept in ijaw origin.

The Oru would be joined by the Ijaw people in a migration much later, and over generations the two became thoroughly mixed. Hence, Ijaw superimposed or more probably eroded the practices of the riverine Oru Igbos they came upon, leaving only the name Oru as survivor from that era, and from then the ijaw we know today continued in existence.

That is my explanation of Oru's awkward existence in Ijaw today.