aribisala0:
You do not automatically become a citizen in the UK because you are born there

So how did Bukayo Saka became an English player?

ojobek:
Africans were colonised by America and her allies stole our common wealth both human and materials wise to develop there country,so black can be president in that USA. What else.

Yes they can

SmartPolician:


You are blowing grammar.

If a people don't promote fairness and equity, work hard all you want, you will never get to the top.

We all know this, so let's stop fooling ourselves.

My dear God bless you for being sincere

TrueNigerian300:
Ask yourself same question can a Chinese or Russian become president in Nigeria? We blame people for not giving us opportunities in their country how many foreigners have we given any political opportunity as well? We have a sense of entitlement as people always what others can do for us and not the other way round.This is the reason we have a very useless country with many useless people litter all over the place.

They cannot be president because the system is not in practice in Nigeria.

But they can be president in America were the system is in practice...it will be difficult for an American migrant in China to be president of China

aribisala0:
The USA does not belong to white folk. They were invaders.
Black people also were migrants, forced migrants and they provided labour at a time when there were no machines , no electricity. They helped unleash the wealth of America and are ENTITLED . I do not think black people are entitled to anything in Russia. America owes them but Russia doesn't

Amer Ghabli,is a yemeni Muslim migrant.Today, he's mayor in Michigan in the US.

Can a Christian migrant become a mayor in Iran?

aribisala0:
They do not promote anything. You are only being naive.
Maybe because you are young. Even at that you must have witnessed the Black Lives Matter and other incidents under Trump.
Racism is institutionalized in America
Why do I reference your age? If you were old enough you would remember apartheid and the role of the USA. They labelled Mandela a terrorist and were a staunch supporter , along with Britain, of the Apartheid Regime. Go and Find out about the circumstances under Obasanjo as Head of State leading to the exit of BP and Barclays Bank from Nigeria. Also why was the US so antagonistic to Mugabe ?
Nigeria put sanctions on its oil being sold to South Africa but BP still went ahead and Barclays helped them amd Obasanjo seized their assets

They are not perfect, only God is perfect.

The opportunity to grow educationally for a female is in practice in South West Nigeria, but not fully practiced in northern Nigeria

3verblazing:
Can a white man be president in nigeria or ghana?

Good question.

I'm tired of reading foolish statements here.

VOICEofORIENTAL:
I have never seen any black migrant that becomes a Russian citizen

Jean Gregoire Sagbo, he from Cotonu. He is a citizen and a Cancellor in Oblast region of Russia.

Ofodirinwa:


Maybe you don't know. There are many black citizens in both countries and that has been the case for 100s of years. The father of Russia Literature is a black man and the descendant of an African who was sold in Russia as a slave but became a general in the Czar's army.

That being said, my issue is not with the idea of China and Russia not 'making me a citizen'. It's the idea that someone other than birth right made Obama or any other black american a citizen. This post implies that Obama is an immigrant who was made a citizen. Obama is nwafor of his country (United States of America). Nobody can 'make him' or 'allow him' to be president, that is his country. That is like saying someone allowed your father to use the toilet in his own house.

Nwanne,I heard you said Nwafor", there's nothing like Nwafor to them.

Kelechi Madu, is not a Canadian citizen yet they made him a big law officer in Alberta Canada... the system in practice afforded him the opportunity to grow & serve humanity.

Here in Nigeria,it will be difficult for a Yoruba man to be a LG chairman in Alaigbo & vice versa

tekjansen2:


No and it is because numbers

1. Blacks in Russia make up one percent of the population

2. Blacks in China, same thing.

3. USA blacks make up 33% of the population

4.Black populations in both russia and china are largely expats. Expats don't take part in the political process of their host nation. Thus any black person trying to take part in the political process is automatically going to be tagged a foreigner, no matter how long he or she has lived there

5.Blacks in the US are not only indigenous but are very very politically active with a lot of alliances that can be used to good effect

6. Political setups in russia, china and the us favour indigenous people above those perceived as foreigners. ( Even in the USA, Arnold Schwarzenegger 's children have a better chance of being US President than him because he is a naturalized American, not a native born like them). As black populations in both Russia and China are considered expat, even when the person speaks the lingo and has citizenship, that may prevent a black person from participating in the political process

Why are blacks considered expats,are blacks not human beings? thanks for the update

VOICEofORIENTAL:
Why are blacks considered expats,are blacks not human beings? thanks for the update

Most blacks in russia and china arrive on student visas, and work visas and most go back home as soon as they graduate or as soon as their job is done.

Few stay behind to settle on a permanent basis

( expat means foreign worker, and it is a term that applies to any foreign worker. A black Ghanaian working in Nigeria is an expat, same as a white American working in Germany)

P.s Based on experiences of people i know, black people who go to Russia or china go for educational purposes. Once they graduate, either they go back to their countries of origin or port to western Europe and North America. Few stay in russia or china.

a4cube:
Their are many black Russians. At least I know one and his kids though his wife is Russian. What you should understand is, blacks started settling in Russia of recent. Those that married to Russian women will get kids that may enter politics in future. Even in Northern Ireland, blacks find it difficult to get govt work or even licence to operate some kind of business. It's a gradual thing.

Until then, but right now the opportunity is scarce in those countries

a4cube:
Jean Gregoire Sagbo is from Cotonu and a Cancellor is Oblast region in Russia. Obama of Russia he is called.

Wow good to know! thanks for the update

kolaaderin:
This question is is pointless. Now go and read extensively about history of all this countries. Read about how the American of today came about her inhabitant population, why it’s possible to have black president in America and not in Russia and China. Read and stop sounding stupid with questions not fit to be asked by a primary school students.

Thank you for calling me stupid & primary school student

VOICEofORIENTAL:
Why are blacks considered expats,are blacks not human beings? thanks for the update

Addendum

To be a citizen of china, you have to have blood relatives that are Chinese, a hurdle most black people cannot cross

Russia requires 5 years of permanent residency, plus for every year you must not spend more than 3 months outslde the country

Botlord:

It's plain stupidity to ask this type of question... Russia does not trade black slaves or colonize Africa to have an enormous black population...

We've countries that even colonize and trade blacks with none ever having a black president... France, UK and Belgium to mention few.

It's possible in the foreseeable future but now it's almost impossible... Is it racism?? No you can't call it that...

The support base is not favorable and it's almost inconceivable. Black in USA is estimated at 46 million while black in Russia is merely 50000, so how do you expect a black president...

Russia has many rulers in the past who are not of Russia ethicity... Lenin (probably their most respected ruler) is a Jew, Stalin is a Georgian..

You are very intelligent, you write very intelligently.

However, you hardly contribute or correct someone without using abusive words..e no good.

Nevertheless, the system in practice in the US gives everyone, blacks, whites,arabians the opportunity to grow.

My major concern here is in the system/opportunity in place.

It's very easy for a Muslim migrant to make it to the top in the US,than in Russia & China

Botlord:

Lenin is a Jew, Stalin is a Georgian...
Say another thing..

Both the Jews,the biacks, the whites, the arabians or the Georgians have the Opportunities & system on ground to grow to the top in the US.

The system/Opportunities are not in place for the blacks to grow to the top in Russia & China.

The system for an Ijaw,efik,idoma or tiv person to be Governor of Imo state is not yet in place in Nigeria

GerogeI:


Are you serious,
Neither Russia nor China enslaved black Africans. They have no minority black ethnic population they are trying to erase. Any black you see there is a mordern immigrant.

However, Your Question should be how do minority groups fare within Russian politics.

Answer: Russia has a big lesson for the rest of the world, they never practiced the "Divide and Rule strategy of Britain" which is why most nations around the world are not at peace, including Nigeria.

Russia has many ethnic subgroups about 193, and does not tolerate ethnic supremacy as the west does. That's why people often do not even know the they have subgroups and internal divisions.

Since the break our of the largest ethnic groups under the USSR ( Uzbeks, Turkish, Kazakh, Ukrainians, Belarussians), ethnic Russians constitute about 85% of the population. But you know what, Russia has 21 national Republics, These are different from independent groups. So, by allowing internal Nationalisim within the Russian Mother Vessel, Russia manages its Diversity. Russia is more like the European Union, than a country. See the map below. We Africans need to see more of the world than Britain France and US.

In contrast, Britain killed 3 million people in Eastern Nigeria to force it to be a country, and did so in many other African States. Even in Britain, Scots are looking for independent after their Northsea oil resources has been squandered developing England at their detriment, still they are foced to be Britain.

Did Americans enslaved the arabians?..yet we see arabians becoming mayor's in the US

Reflect7:


Very thoughtless post. What is the black population of Russia or China?

A black can be president of America because 15% of their population - around 45 million people, are black.

China and Russia don't even have 1% black population, so why would a black be president there?

The system for that little population of the blacks in Russia & China to grow is not in place.

Deqa Dhalac is a Somali migrant.she migrated to the US because of war in her country in1992.

But today she is mayor in South Portland,a white dominated area.. the whites massively voted for her

She is the first black female muslim mayor in South Portland.

VOICEofORIENTAL:
Amer Ghabli,is a yemeni Muslim migrant.Today, he's mayor in Michigan in the US.

Can a Christian migrant become a mayor in Iran?

The US is not a good example . It is a country of migrants . To be honest with you your question is stupid?


Can a Muslim become the King of England?

VOICEofORIENTAL:
So how did Bukayo Saka became an English player?

Ask him. Am I his family member?

pquaver:


Nigerians travel abroad and have kids who later have elective positions in UK, US, Canada etc pls can. U give us even a councilor in China or Russia that is black..

Why should I do that ? To prove what ? Why ask me ? That is a very foolish request and totally tangential to what I said. Go back and read what you quoted if you do not understand it ask someone to explain it to you

aribisala0:
The US is not a good example . It is a country of migrants . To be honest with you your question is stupid?


Can a Muslim become the King of England?

The mayor of London is. Muslim. A Pakistani

Can a Chenchen muslim become a major in Moscow or can a Uyghur Muslim Chinese become a mayor in Beijing?

Infact, China is killing it's Muslims

Guess who is trying to help them? As usual, the West.

tekjansen2:


Most blacks in russia and china arrive on student visas, and work visas and most go back home as soon as they graduate or as soon as their job is done.

Few stay behind to settle on a permanent basis

( expat means foreign worker, and it is a term that applies to any foreign worker. A black Ghanaian working in Nigeria is an expat, same as a white American working in Germany)

P.s Based on experiences of people i know, black people who go to Russia or china go for educational purposes. Once they graduate, either they go back to their countries of origin or port to western Europe and North America. Few stay in russia or china.

Ok thank you

gambojimeta:

The mayor of London is. Muslim. A Pakistani

Can a Chenchen muslim become a major in Moscow or can a Uyghur Muslim Chinese become a mayor in Beijing?

Infact, China is killing it's Muslims

Guess who is trying to help them? As usual, the West.

It seems to me that you think you and I are in some kind of point scoring game? I am not a Muslim so let us clear that.

Every country is entitled to make rules about citizenship . There is no virtue in admitting black people or "Muslims" to citizenship of your country if they are not indigenous. Those countries that do so are countries that are "migrant" nations e.g Canada or USA or those with a strong colonial signature like France and the UK and even that does not minimize the extent of racism in those places

So there is nothing holy or virtuous about doing this it is borne out of self interest.
Countries without such exposure tend to be more nationalist and restrictive in admitting foreigners

Do you know that Japan maintains a register of citizens BY BIRTH. You are unlikely to see foreigners granted citizenship with ease . So different countries have different practices BASED ON THEIR HISTORY.

A black person can never becomes president in China. The Chinese have no filters neither do they believe in diversity and inclusion.

Just like Indians, they are suffering from a major inferiority complex aka white is good, and black is evil.

Some quota question below and a guardian post about a Chinese advert

VOICEofORIENTAL:
Both the Jews,the biacks, the whites, the arabians or the Georgians have the Opportunities & system on ground to grow to the top in the US.

The system/Opportunities are not in place for the blacks to grow to the top in Russia & China.

The system for an Ijaw,efik,idoma or tiv person to be Governor of Imo state is not yet in place in Nigeria

This will be last I'll reply you, I stop engaging peep who can't be logical...

Don't try to bypass the truth, this is common sense...

Blacks have legitimate claim to president in American.. Can you say that for Russia/China...

USA is populated by European who have continue to sideline the natives.. The people who populated America today are descendants of European settlers who have strangulate the natives and make sure they'll never have their voice again... The original owners of the land are under occupation...

Have you heard of any native Americans becoming a president?.. You won't..
Are they not entitled to it?? That's a story for another day...

aribisala0:
The US is not a good example . It is a country of migrants . To be honest with you your question is stupid?


Can a Muslim become the King of England?

That's what makes them unique from Russia and China.

There are mayor's in the US of Arabian origin

aribisala0:
Ask him. Am I his family member?

Ok I will go & ask him

gambojimeta:

The mayor of London is. Muslim. A Pakistani

Can a Chenchen muslim become a major in Moscow or can a Uyghur Muslim Chinese become a mayor in Beijing?

Infact, China is killing it's Muslims

Guess who is trying to help them? As usual, the West.

Thanks for this wonderful update

VOICEofORIENTAL:
That's what makes them unique from Russia and China.

There are mayor's in the US of Arabian origin

Nothing unique about it
We had a Japanese president in Peru.

It all comes to to migration and numbers.

If the numbers are there you would observe political representation.
They have white politicians in South Africa but not Nigeria .It all comes down to numbers

Russians and China are not evolving and do not want to evolve. They could give a rat arse about what the world thinks about them