omooba969:


What is the darkness?

Your question is rhetorically dumb. He doesn’t have to explain such a contextually explicit statement to you. You can choose to be blunt.

mastermaestro:


Don’t be drunk in your own sentiments. What ritual processes did he undergo before emerging as king? I have no problem with common people taking up royal positions. But for a practising pastor, I would say that a lot was really wrong with his Christian faith.

Compromise always weakens or collapses Christian denominations. Sadly, RCCG has entered that phase of compromise. It’s a huge shame for a denomination I used to admire as a shining example.

There have been Christian Obas before him and there will be more after...

Who are you to judge who God appointed or who he did not?

Talking about Ritual processess, Daniel was Prime Minister to about 3 Persio-Median Kings...

But that did not make you uncomfortable.

The Christian Oba knows what Rites to refuse and those that do not count.
Yeah, some of them do not count-- even Apostle Paul said so.

You cannot fully understand the plans of God.

Why don't you take a leaf from Isaac, Gamaliel and Men like them who though did not understand the strange happenings at the time, were humble enough to be open minded.

Even Christ came for the Samaritans and ate with 'Sinners'

People like you would have torn their hair out seeing him do so.

Oga, no dey form 'Na me holy pass'

People are doing meaningful things with their lives!

derecho:
Unfortunately, he owes those who have known him some explanation. Especially as the Christian practice is different from the new one he'll be going into now.
Any responsible person has people he is responsible to

I don’t know why an African man sees anything cultural/tradition forbidden… Even David in the good books was a king….
Does being a king stops one from serving God?

HBB1:


There have been Christian Obas before him and there will be more after...

Who are you to judge who God appointed or who he did not?

Talking about Ritual processess, Daniel was Prime Minister to about 3 Persio-Median Kings...

But that did not make you uncomfortable.

The Christian Oba knows what Rites to refuse and those that do not count.
Yeah, some of them do not count-- even Apostle Paul said so.

You cannot fully understand the plans of God.

Why don't you take a leaf from Isaac, Gamaliel and Men like them who though did not understand the strange happenings at the time, were humble enough to be open minded.

Even Christ came for the Samaritans and ate with 'Sinners'

People like you would have torn their hair out seeing him do so.

Oga, no dey form 'Na me holy pass'

People are doing meaningful things with their lives!

You are a compromised believer. When it involves bread, you would twist Scriptures to justify a questionable act. GOD have mercy on RCCG. Like Prophet Eli’s ministry, like RCCG.

Safe sail, I have left you guys behind.

iwaeda:


https://punchng.com/god-told-me-to-become-soun-of-ogbomoso-rccg-pastor-olaoye/

BABA OCCUPY YOUR POSITION AND LEAVE GOD OUT OF THIS. YOU WANTED SOUN AND YOU GOT IT,PERIOD.
JUST BE CAREFUL WITH YORUBA TRADITION BECAUSE YOU CAN NEVER BEND THE RULE. YOU CAN ASK THE WIFE OF FORMER OSEMAWE OF ONDO LAND FOR MORE EXPLANATION,SHE ALSO A PASTOR IN REDEEMED TOO .
GOODLUCK TO YOU

HAS HE BEEN DECLARED SOUN ACTUALLY

mastermaestro:


You are a compromised believer. When it involves bread, you would twist Scriptures to justify a questionable act. GOD have mercy on RCCG. Like Prophet Eli’s ministry, like RCCG.

Safe sail, I have left you guys behind.

Compromised?

Hahahah

I am sure you would have told the Ethiopian, Philip preached to, to never go back to Court, as he was going to be serving Mammon.

Or Cornelius, or even Nebuchadnezzer, who later acknowledged God.

"All authority is God ordained"

Or you have not read that part?

So you want the heathen to continue ruling you, and you expect good results.

All through the Bible, how did God save his people?

By raising people-- Moses, Joshua, Saul, David, Gideon...
Jesus.

Your mindset is a recipe for Mediocrity.

I hope you do something reasonable with your life though!

Yahoo Yahoo pastor

After which he'd proceed to be the most average ineffective ruler ever, while constantly claiming to follow divine guidance. This is the "average" Christian in a nutshell

It's not about Africa friend. If you are a Christian, these are very basic things.Take time and study how Kings emerged in the Bible days and whether there was difference between them and pagan kings.

There's nothing wrong with leadership provided you don't sin against God.

Besides, Christians are followers of Christ Not David or Abraham.

ellizy:

I don’t know why an African man sees anything cultural/tradition forbidden… Even David in the good books was a king….
Does being a king stops one from serving God?

I don't blame those who condemn these pastors when such thing happen, afterall it's what they've always preached against, now their preachings are going against them. These are the set of people who has made us feel everything about our culture is evil, now God is trying to open the eyes of people through the so called men and women of God. With these, the wise ones should know the difference between the good and the bad in our culture. He has now automatically become the head of all idol worshipers, witches and wizards in ogbomoso and he will be carried along with the tradition. so many people wouldn't have seen anything wrong in this if only they never condemned these cultures and tradition because they want to gain followers. Peace be unto everyone.

CoronaVirusPro:
Men are really funny!


That's how one told us he drove from Ore to Lagos on empty tank

Abeg, who talk am again?

Lol.

They won't kill me in this country.

The pastor is 100%. God cannot rule, if we don't rule. He created us to take Rulership of the earth. Now is job as a child of God is to go there and influence that space with the mind of God.

Cryomancer:
Same way God told Osinbajo to become vice president and Remi Tinubu to become a senator.... Look where that has gotten us today as a country.

RCCG and it's pastoral ordination process really needs to be checked because these guys after ordination keeps bringing the name of God to disrepute by saying things that we know God would never say to their type of person.

If Osinbajo and Remi Tinubu after their open and bold telling of lies in public can still remain a pastor in RCCG then it shows that the ordination is not of God.

Been a member of RCCG for more than 12yrs but my distaste for the church in the last 2yrs is on the high side and I'm still seeking out a good church free of scandal to start attending.

Try Apostolic Faith

mastermaestro:


Your question is rhetorically dumb. He doesn’t have to explain such a contextually explicit statement to you. You can choose to be blunt.

Loool Nigerians!!!

Just received a mention from an angry cave man who couldn't decipher my question.

I'm trying hard to understand how a Soun or Ooni or Even Olu would rule without those sacrifices.

Olu in the public seems to always show he is Christian but how does he handle the "necessary" sacrifices to "the gods of the land".
Abi will they exempt him from those rituals?

I think it's naive to think you must compromise to be influential.
If you ask me, it's a demotion from being a Pastor(if he was truly one) to being a Soun.
The Ganduje-EmirSanusi saga showed us how lowly placed all these kings are.

funny enough what if a pastor tell his G.O that God told him 2 go & take over from a powerful witch doctor in a village who is a member of his family

MrBrownJay1:
demented holy fools!

Don't think think you're too harsh?

What's his offense that you called him demented

Cryomancer:
Same way God told Osinbajo to become vice president and Remi Tinubu to become a senator.... Look where that has gotten us today as a country.

RCCG and it's pastoral ordination process really needs to be checked because these guys after ordination keeps bringing the name of God to disrepute by saying things that we know God would never say to their type of person.

If Osinbajo and Remi Tinubu after their open and bold telling of lies in public can still remain a pastor in RCCG then it shows that the ordination is not of God.

Been a member of RCCG for more than 12yrs but my distaste for the church in the last 2yrs is on the high side and I'm still seeking out a good church free of scandal to start attending.

God selected Saul to be King..... Same as David, Jehu and others, yet all their kingdoms still experienced troubles, famines, wars etc..... God isn't the problem............

, it's the human factor!!!!

Remi Tinubu and Osinbajo are only 2 people in the midst of thousands of politicians... At least you can't pin any of the problem in Nigeria directly on them. We actually need more God fearing men and women in our government

Lol if truly you know the meaning of Ignorance, you won't say this!

ayo2008:



Ignorance! What make him to be a fool? Christians are meant to be a light in the midst of darkness and are meant to meant to dominate.. God will surely work with him.

Cryomancer:

I really appreciate your words of wisdom here. I just pray for God's grace and direction.

God bless you Ma'am..

Thank God.
God will surely guide and bless you.

omo! i don't know sha, either na only for nigeria pastors god de speak.

Cryomancer:
Same way God told Osinbajo to become vice president and Remi Tinubu to become a senator.... Look where that has gotten us today as a country.

RCCG and it's pastoral ordination process really needs to be checked because these guys after ordination keeps bringing the name of God to disrepute by saying things that we know God would never say to their type of person.

If Osinbajo and Remi Tinubu after their open and bold telling of lies in public can still remain a pastor in RCCG then it shows that the ordination is not of God.

Been a member of RCCG for more than 12yrs but my distaste for the church in the last 2yrs is on the high side and I'm still seeking out a good church free of scandal to start attending.

Been a member of RCCG for more than 12yrs but my distaste for the church in the last 2yrs is on the high side and I'm still seeking out a good church free of scandal to start attending.[/quote]

You won't find any church like that unless it is attended only by ANGELS and not HUMANS.

CoronaVirusPro:
Men are really funny!


That's how one told us he drove from Ore to Lagos on empty tank

one said he spent over 2Million for his wedding without having a kobo and he didn't borrow money from friends or family.

The Kingdom of God is been extended to facet of endeavour gradually

MrBrownJay1:
demented holy fools!

Seems you are the only Fool here.........

MrBrownJay1:
demented holy fools!

NOPE, you are the demented myopic fool. The lord works in a mysterious ways, so thou shall not judge, else you will be judged.

Cryomancer:
Same way God told Osinbajo to become vice president and Remi Tinubu to become a senator.... Look where that has gotten us today as a country.

RCCG and it's pastoral ordination process really needs to be checked because these guys after ordination keeps bringing the name of God to disrepute by saying things that we know God would never say to their type of person.

If Osinbajo and Remi Tinubu after their open and bold telling of lies in public can still remain a pastor in RCCG then it shows that the ordination is not of God.

Been a member of RCCG for more than 12yrs but my distaste for the church in the last 2yrs is on the high side and I'm still seeking out a good church free of scandal to start attending.

Can you please enumerate what Osinbajo and Remi Tinubu should have done in their capacity to save the nation.

Secondly your excellency, don't forget as well to tell us issues you have with RCCG as a church.

When there are more than enough men to fill into his shoes....
He can go home.....
After all it's all about purpose.