Kobojunkie:
1. There are translations in English that you can easily comprehend.

I am sorry but none of your Muslims understand even a smidge of what is the Law and the prophets as it is impossible to sell the idea that Allah and the God of Israel are one and the same deity with even just that, a smidge of understanding.

2. I don't know about that.

3. Stop spwing nonsense abeg and go read the book for yourself so you can rid yourself of your blatant ignorance.

Lukuluku69:


Dunce, The Quran was revealed to correct the errors (some knowingly made by men why an agenda and some that crept in unknowingly) . That part that says Abraham fed the Angels, was part of the Jewish Bible. Why not ask the Jews if they believed that the angels ate?

And I can't stick to the Quran alone. Do you know why? Your Bible claimed to have been an inspired book from God. I am a student of comparative religion who seek to see the similarities in Scriptures. It is only in your interpretation of all known Scriptures that Angelic beings eat, copulate, and many other stuff with humans. And the say way you can't stop spewing your kingdom hall babbles is the same way I won't stick with the Quran only.

Capiche?

MaxInDHouse:


This is what most religionists claiming Christians failed to understand, Jesus paid for mankind's sin as man but he resurrected as a spirit being, his human body is the sacrifice not his prehuman existence which must continue after his earthly mission!

nnamdiosu:

This is a complete heresy.i know you might be doing this in error but please stop.

MaxInDHouse:


Until you present a global family of peace loving worshipers using your Qu'ran as yardstick i'm not interested in whatever your Qu'ran has to say, i'm OK with my Bible alone!

Lukuluku69:


Your sect us only one of the thousand differing voices after reading the same thing from the same book. And I know you are not interested in what the Quran has to say because you are Deaf, Dumb and Blind.

MaxInDHouse:

Logically a human known very well by all his friends can't become a stranger if it's the same body {John 20:11-16; Luke 24:15-32} well it's due to the fact that he has returned to spirit form since his human body used as sacrifice for sin has been taken away!

Hismasterpiece:

Max max.. if indeed He resurrected as a spirit being then why did he ask her not to touch him? Can someone touch a spirit? Why did He ask Thomas to touch and feel His wounds if He resurrected as a spirit?
If he was resurrected as a spirit being then how could he eat broiled fish? Do spirits eat physical food?
The truth is that He was resurrected in a spiritual body.. It might be spiritual but it still is a body, and as such, can interact with physical things, but also interacts with spiritual things... It can disappear and appear...
Guy seriously you have to start questioning your JW doctrines... Be open to the fact that you just might be deceived...

MaxInDHouse:


YES! I'm DEAF, DUMB and BLIND to a worthless book that has no practical benefits!

Lukuluku69:

See wailing lol.
And the one that has benefits, what has it produced? Over 40,000 Sects each and everyone claiming to be it's true representation whole condemning others to perdition. Lol
And if your next reply you hang out your Death Cult group as the true one sebi?

englishmart:
The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?

Lukuluku69:
Oga Ade, if there is anyone spewing nonsense on Nairaland Religion Section, you will by a Million Miles.

I admit that a life long brainwash can't be undone in a few Nairaland posts. But sir, you and many of you here know next to nothing about the Book you have been defending and quoting all your life. Believe me on this.

I have read the Bible and I put it to you that you don't understand what it contains. To let you know that you don't understand a smidget of it. The Jews read the same Genesis to Malachi with you, but do you see any similarities between you and the Jews?

When you are ready to be like a child and relearn your faith, holler with a mention.

We can start from Genesis.

Hismasterpiece:

Max max.. if indeed He resurrected as a spirit being then why did he ask her not to touch him? Can someone touch a spirit? Why did He ask Thomas to touch and feel His wounds if He resurrected as a spirit?
If he was resurrected as a spirit being then how could he eat broiled fish? Do spirits eat physical food?
The truth is that He was resurrected in a spiritual body.. It might be spiritual but it still is a body, and as such, can interact with physical things, but also interacts with spiritual things... It can disappear and appear...
Guy seriously you have to start questioning your JW doctrines... Be open to the fact that you just might be deceived...

cornelboy:

Baba this things no hard na.

Angels are spirit beings or physical beings?

cornelboy:

Baba this things no hard na.
Angels are spirit beings or physical beings?

Hismasterpiece:

Angels are spirits

cornelboy:

Okay.

Hismasterpiece:

So what your question have to do with Jesus's body?

MaxInDHouse:


This is what most religionists claiming Christians failed to understand, Jesus paid for mankind's sin as man but he resurrected as a spirit being, his human body is the sacrifice not his prehuman existence which must continue after his earthly mission!

englishmart:
He resurrected as a spirit being. We just easily make up points when we can't prove logically.

Lukuluku69:


Op your thinking is right. I mean what is the meaning of Sacrifice? If you lay down your life knowing fully well that you can take it back, where does sacrifice come in?

If I have God's assurance that I will rise up three days later if should lay down my life for Mankind sins, I will gladly do so without crying and wailing and also sweating blood.

delkuf:
Who told you the Lord Jesus Christ resurrected as a Spirit. I don't know you guys interpret the bible. The Lord Jesus Christ resurrected in flesh and blood. He show himself to his disciples and many other people. Stop misinforming others

MaxInDHouse:


The flesh and blood that he used as sacrifice to pay for sin shey?
Why are you people so daft?
How can a living human with flesh and blood walk up to another human and ask you to stick your finger into the hole in his palm where he was nailed to the stake yet the scriptures say his body was corrupted at death but raise without corruption? 1Corinthians 15:42
Or do you think Jesus sinned to make his body corrupt at death?
Well what all his followers saw was a materialized body to make himself visible to them just as angels do put on materialized bodies in the past to become visible to humans.
Jesus was raised as a spirit being! 1Corinthians 15:45

delkuf:

How was the Lord Jesus Christ given birth to without his mother Mary having sex with any man?. So you are the one that gave the Lord Jesus Christ a materialize body. So according to you, the Lord Jesus Christ had a body that can make disciples see him even though he is a spirit

MaxInDHouse:


That body is not the flesh and blood sacrificed for sin!

delkuf:
You are more confused than I thought

Kobojunkie:
Where is it written that one has to be exactly as the Jews are to know God?

The same you wey dey claim say Allah abandoned the Jews expect others to be as the Jews are, you serious so?

Where in Genesis is your Allah the same as the Adonai, please go ahead and show us as the records in both books clearly reveal them as two forces against each other.... only one in denial would pretend them to be one and same ...unless of course, you suppose the Supreme one a celestial case of dissociative identity disorder in which case you believe instead that we are all fk-ed.

MaxInDHouse:


JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES organization is the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught in the Bible!
Jesus talked about the FRUIT expected of pure worship {Matthew 7:16-18} as fully explained in the Bible by two prophets {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} which will help all worshipers of God to speak in harmony as in PEACE! Zephaniah 3:9

So even when 100,000 different sects including yours are claiming they believe in God with different books and theories i have found the one and only group producing what we're all expecting from the true believers in God among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Lukuluku69:
1. Baba, I would love to engage you. Truly I do. You do have a basic understanding of the scriptures but I feel you tend to dwell on the Letters while neglecting the sense in them.

2. As for Allah and Adonai, Lol. The Jews adopted Adonai in respect to God simy because it is forbidden for them ( Says the Learned) to vocalize the name of God. So, they devise many Euphemisms/Nickname to address God without running foul of the burden their Learned Men heaped on them Adonai, Heavens, Haschem, are so of the names they devised to call God. And in this, the name of God was lost among them thru the Generations. The closest you get to God's name in the Hebrew Bible is Yahuwa Elohim. Which simply means " Oh He, Eloha/Elohim" You remember when your Jesus was on the cross? Was he shouting for Adonai? Haschem? He was calling on Eloi, Eloi.....

Kobojunkie:
1. So now you would rather I not dwell on that which is in fact written but in the bullsheet concocted of that which is written in your mind... kind of like exact same you accuse Christians, and even Paul of doing?

2. All the names used to reference God throughout all of scripture are obviously all titles - none of them His actual name. The point here is that Adonai(title) of scriptures and Allah cannot be one and the same deity. So can't you please stop trying to deviate from the point abeg!

1. ?

2. ??

So, what is God's real name according to your knowledge of the Bible?

Let us start from there.

You threw out a challenge and I accept, so let's not waste any more time on the frivolous abeg!

Lukuluku69:
So, what is God's real name according to your knowledge of the Bible?