Ubanz:
Are we fighting a civil war?

we are waiting for ipob terrorists to start their madness again. We will wipe them out of the surface of earth.

I can see some fools writing the US that buhari want to use the helicopters to kill a particular region. This is the same thing they did when Buhari was buying the tukano jets.

slimfit1:


Order a useless way of thinking, ordinary Iran is selling drones to Russia. Why do you have a poor way of thinking? What is wrong with using the money to learn how to produce our own?

You have absolutely no idea how the world works. That we can create something does not mean we should create it when it is clear that creating drones from scratch at this point will be costlier than simply buying them.

Always in a haste to sound smart when you don't even have a rudimentary understanding of the way things work. Among allies, even the most advanced militaries still buy and sell to and from each other when it is economically sound to do so.

You are even contradicting yourself by citing Iran and Russia. So are Russia dummies to be buying drones from Iran? Does that mean they lack the capability to produce them?

In case you have not understood, producing a small number of drones for a country that will have to import all the raw materials to assemble them, is far more expensive than simply buying them. This would make sense if we intended to become an industrial producer of drones. But if we did, could we sell better and cheap drones than the Chinese who have been in the business for far longer? And where is the market for Nigerian-made drones?

The funny thing is I have no doubt you will still be among those jumping to call ours inferior if and when we do make them.

There is geo politics involved.... Why was ghadafi killed? All he wanted was for Africa to look inwards and be self sufficient with one unified currency.

Why was Abiola knocked out and yet Abacha and Babangida were taking money and putting in western banks and they were treated and welcomed with red carpets?

Why is it that Tinubu, Atiku and obi are visiting western consulates, organizations and countries to meet with them and get their blessings for them to rule Nigeria? .. are they contesting election in Nigeria or western world?

Ultimately, you are right that we are responsible for our failures and to get things right we would need to have a united people because it's the best interest of the western world that we don't unite and be self sufficient.... And they will destroy as much as possible so we don't get there.

Libya had a ghadafi that made it the prosporous country in Africa before he and some of children were killed... Abiola was tamed using the military by western world because his vision was solely Nigeria centric.

We not the western world can fix ajaokuta steel plant... Think about it for how many decades that plant started and still it is history?... Then ask yourself how many oil refineries have been built in Nigeria within this time frame with steel from western countries?... How much billions of dollars is made to keep these refineries running everyday from so called western countries?

Do you know how many billions of dollars flow out of Nigeria everyday to western world?...whose interest will be harmed if all these money stop flowing out?...think about it...look at China and Russia that is self sufficient, these same people call china and Russia a security threat to them and they are doing everything to destroy child and Russia...what do you think they would do to Nigeria if Nigeria becomes china today or on its part to becoming Russia tomorrow?

emorse:

Nah bro. I do not agree with the blame shifting. We're responsible for our failure as a people. Greed and stupidity have always gotten the better of us.

We can fix Ajaokuta and electricity if vested interest simply let go. But will they?

toxtimmy:
What's there to celebrate?

The fact that our military has acquired newer and better equipment that will save soldiers lives and increase their capacity to decimate enemeis of the people.

is that not obvious?

WASTE OF SCARCE RESOURCES!

To a hammer everything is a nail.

If you don't have a strategy even 1 million stealth f35 fighters will not help you.... Your president said fighting Boko Haram is a fight against the north ... You president is building a naval base and training school in Kaduna desert.... You buy helicopters and that's it...Bleep shit..

Why don't they buy helicopters and sign a contract to produce the parts here in Nigeria just like India does...while we work towards producing helicopters ourselves.... For crying out loud every theroitcal material needed to learn how to build an helicopter is on the internet and it's free.

SmartyPants:


The fact that our military has acquired newer and better equipment that will save soldiers lives and increase their capacity to decimate enemeis of the people.

is that not obvious?

toxtimmy:
To a hammer everything is a nail.

If you don't have a strategy even 1 million stealth f35 fighters will not help you.... Your president said fighting Boko Haram is a fight against the north ... You president is building a naval base and training school in Kaduna desert.... You buy helicopters and that's it...Bleep shit..

Why don't they buy helicopters and sign a contract to produce the parts here in Nigeria just like India does...while we work towards producing helicopters ourselves.... For crying out loud every theroitcal material needed to learn how to build an helicopter is on the internet and it's free.

What do you mean they don't have a strategy? This is sophistry. So your president is building a base in the desert, what does that have to do with the military having or not having a strategy against boko haram?

You are now arguing that we should start making helicopters. Why?? Do you realize it's cheaper to simply buy them because we won't produce enough to have economies of scale??

Urheadmaster:


Out of the 55 fighter helicopters, Boko boiz will seize about 51 and use it against the unprofessional military and deal with them and innocent citizens as usual .

Your prayers will not be answered

dre11:





https://independent.ng/naf-to-take-delivery-of-55-fighter-helicopters-in-december/

All these should have been delivered by PDP government. But GEJ and his crooks embezzled the man. Now President Buhari need to start from scratch again. Long live Nigeria Long live Nigeria air Force.
Additionally, Nigeria airforce must also look inward and build capacity for local manufacturing of equipments. Even if is to go to Russia, North Korea or China for training and or kidnap some of their engineers / experts in developing and manufacturing guns, war planes, and other weapons to defend our country against internal and external attacks

SmartyPants:


You have absolutely no idea how the world works. That we can create something does not mean we should create it when it is clear that creating drones from scratch at this point will be costlier than simply buying them.

Always in a haste to sound smart when you don't even have a rudimentary understanding of the way things work. Among allies, even the most advanced militaries still buy and sell to and from each other when it is economically sound to do so.

You are even contradicting yourself by citing Iran and Russia. So are Russia dummies to be buying drones from Iran? Does that mean they lack the capability to produce them?

In case you have not understood, producing a small number of drones for a country that will have to import all the raw materials to assemble them, is far more expensive than simply buying them. This would make sense if we intended to become an industrial producer of drones. But if we did, could we sell better and cheap drones than the Chinese who have been in the business for far longer? And where is the market for Nigerian-made drones?

The funny thing is I have no doubt you will still be among those jumping to call ours inferior if and when we do make them.

So sad we have a lot of people in this country that think like you. Thanks for giving me lots of information, that doesn't make sense. By the way, I have two friends that studied aeronautics they said you are chatting balls. He showed me people in Nigeria designing drowns.
It's up to you what you want to design or produce nobody can tell you what you can and can not do or produce. Why do you have the brain of a cow? We need to learn how to use our own human resource and not rely on imports or foreign weapons. Our problem our solution when something happens to the weapon we don't need to call anyone to repair it.
We need to be self-sufficient when it comes to defence big fool.

slimfit1:


So sad we have a lot of people in this country that think like you. Thanks for giving me lots of information, that doesn't make sense. By the way, I have two friends that studied aeronautics they said you are chatting balls. He showed me people in Nigeria designing drowns.

Where did I say people in Nigeria cannot design drones??

Hope you and your friends are ok in the head?

SmartyPants:


Where did I say people in Nigeria cannot design drones??

Hope you and your friends are ok in the head?

If you fools will stop attacking me unnecessarily it will be nice. We have people the resources to produce anything in this country

slimfit1:


If you fools will stop attacking me unnecessarily it will be nice. We have people the resources to produce anything in this country

Go play with your toys kid.

SmartyPants:


Go play with your toys kid.

Look at how you are responding? Is this how they trained you to be responding? You can't handle it can you?

How about your president build a naval base for Abuja, kano, Zamfara, yola, Katsina etc... you happy now?... Your president say killing armed robbers aka Boko Haram is a crime / fight against the north... Of there is nothing stopping him from building cow ranch on the moon too..

He has been president for 8 years and boko haram have been killing even before he became president...if he had a strategy why buy helicopters now?... Was he not the one that said Boko Haram have been defeated?

A president that can not keep aso rocK hospital funded with medicine and doctors but travel and overseas everyday for health check is someone that is not qualified to be a pig breeder.

The first aeroplane or helicopter was made over a hundred years ago but you can't as a country make a kite but buy kites via corrupt methods and this same kites will stop working a couple of months after it's delivered ... They say mad people don't have shame, air Nigeria that was unveiled by spending billions a few years now and till today air Nigeria is like a witch they flies at night and no one sees it.

If oyinbo and chinese man take the internet you use to type your silly response what will you do?

SmartyPants:


What do you mean they don't have a strategy? This is sophistry. So your president is building a base in the desert, what does that have to do with the military having or not having a strategy against boko haram?

You are now arguing that we should start making helicopters. Why?? Do you realize it's cheaper to simply buy them because we won't produce enough to have economies of scale??

toxtimmy:
There is geo politics involved.... Why was ghadafi killed? All he wanted was for Africa to look inwards and be self sufficient with one unified currency.

Why was Abiola knocked out and yet Abacha and Babangida were taking money and putting in western banks and they were treated and welcomed with red carpets?

Why is it that Tinubu, Atiku and obi are visiting western consulates, organizations and countries to meet with them and get their blessings for them to rule Nigeria? .. are they contesting election in Nigeria or western world?

Ultimately, you are right that we are responsible for our failures and to get things right we would need to have a united people because it's the best interest of the western world that we don't unite and be self sufficient.... And they will destroy as much as possible so we don't get there.

Libya had a ghadafi that made it the prosporous country in Africa before he and some of children were killed... Abiola was tamed using the military by western world because his vision was solely Nigeria centric.

We not the western world can fix ajaokuta steel plant... Think about it for how many decades that plant started and still it is history?... Then ask yourself how many oil refineries have been built in Nigeria within this time frame with steel from western countries?... How much billions of dollars is made to keep these refineries running everyday from so called western countries?

Do you know how many billions of dollars flow out of Nigeria everyday to western world?...whose interest will be harmed if all these money stop flowing out?...think about it...look at China and Russia that is self sufficient, these same people call china and Russia a security threat to them and they are doing everything to destroy child and Russia...what do you think they would do to Nigeria if Nigeria becomes china today or on its part to becoming Russia tomorrow?

The bolded is the summary of your comment bro. And I agree completely.

dre11:





https://independent.ng/naf-to-take-delivery-of-55-fighter-helicopters-in-december/

Congratulations to you guys, hope you’ll take the fight to the outlaws

slimfit1:
A drone would have done 80% of these jobs. All should have done was train technicians and engineers on how to build drones. We could have saved a lot of money there.

You really think Remote Control Planes (a.k.a. drones) can effectively replace the need for manned aircrafts? If that was the case, why exactly are the most technologically advanced and rich countries still bothering to build manned aircrafts and train pilots to go into battle?

Some of you watch too many fake films.

audio, lamba lamba

Kazeem47:
Something they will be using to evacuate big men family when there is crisis wbo.This is the time(Campaign/Election Period) for some people to cash out big.

you can't evacuate big men with attack helis

We should also have purchased 20 of the of the Turkish Bayrakter drones, and which can stay airborne for like 27 hours and carry 4 smart bombs with surveillance cameras.

I'd deploy 5 to the Niger Delta to tackle bunkering and illegal refining sites, 5 to the Gulf of Guinea to tackle pirate attacks on ships. 5 in the North West and 5 in the North East and the remaining 5 on border patrol to counter smugglers.

Each one costs $5mln, so total cost with munitions and training would be maybe $120mln

obailala:
You really think Remote Control Planes (a.k.a. drones) can effectively replace the need for manned aircrafts? If that was the case, why exactly are the most technologically advanced and rich countries still bothering to build manned aircrafts and train pilots to go into battle?

Some of you watch too many fake films.

Why do you think America is converting old aircraft into drones I meant unmanned aircraft. Things change 70% of their mentions are with unmanned aircraft. 99% of the logistics are with manned aircraft. You have the same view if you are in the aircraft and if you are not. If you are in the control room you can easily make decisions. The reason why I suggest drones is because that's the ones we can produce by ourselves.

Johnrake69:
With all these fighter jets we still can't eradicate bandits.

Niger state, Sokoto, Katsina, Kaduna, Zamfara etc are all under bandits.

Guys, vote wisely. That money you think you will make from voting the wrong candidate will not be enough to pay for ransom if you or your loved one is kidnapped.

For a start we need an overhaul of the Nigerian security architecture. Voting APC is more or less voting for the continuation of the status quo.

The intensity of Bandit operations in these areas have reduced significantly. These air assets will also improve the combat abilities of Nigeria in defense of our Nation against external aggressions

Cromagnon:
you can't evacuate big men with attack helis

ok,but Nigerians can do what seems impossible.

slimfit1:


Why do you think America is converting old aircraft into drones I meant unmanned aircraft. Things change 70% of their mentions are with unmanned aircraft. 99% of the logistics are with manned aircraft. You have the same view if you are in the aircraft and if you are not. If you are in the control room you can easily make decisions. The reason why I suggest drones is because that's the ones we can produce by ourselves.

My dear brother, the world hasnt yet gotten to the point where drones can efficiently and sufficiently replace manned aircrafts. Even the US you talk about that's developing drones everyday, in serious issues, they still send out manned aircrafts. Dont fall for the fictional hype and propaganda tv shows and documentaries you watch, drones arent and cant replace manned aircrafts just yet; maybe that could start happening in the next 20 years but its definitely not the reality today.

And then, did you really just say its silly for Nigeria to acquire helicopter gunships cos drones should have been gotten instead? How could you even think its okay to compare Nigeria with technologically advanced and rich countries? You expect Nigeria to replace manned aircrafts with drones even when advanced countries are yet to achieve that?

obailala:
My dear brother, the world hasnt yet gotten to the point where drones can efficiently and sufficiently replace manned aircrafts. Even the US you talk about that's developing drones everyday, in serious issues, they still send out manned aircrafts. Dont fall for the fictional hype and propaganda tv shows and documentaries you watch, drones arent and cant replace manned aircrafts just yet; maybe that could start happening in the next 20 years but its definitely not the reality today.

And then, did you really just say its silly for Nigeria to acquire helicopter gunships cos drones should have been gotten instead? How could you even think its okay to compare Nigeria with technologically advanced and rich countries? You expect Nigeria to replace manned aircraft with drones even when advanced countries are yet to achieve that?

You are right, what I am saying is, we have aeronautics engineers and technicians in this country that can propel us in this area so we are not doing catch-up. We are not good at anything at the moment and all we are doing is buying. The people making it dont have 3 heads.

Urheadmaster:


Out of the 55 fighter helicopters, Boko boiz will seize about 51 and use it against the unprofessional military and deal with them and innocent citizens as usual .

Only from a toilet pipe brain

slimfit1:


You are right, what I am saying is, we have aeronautics engineers and technicians in this country that can propel us in this area so we are not doing catch-up. We are not good at anything at the moment and all we are doing is buying. The people making it dont have 3 heads.

Just like a few people in this thread have highlighted to you, whilst it is good that we produce or leqrn to produce some of these things, there are times (such as now) when it is economically, scientifically, politically, socially and securitically expedient to just buy them from those who have already produced them.

It's not always the wisest choice to reinvent or produce the wheel. Nigeria is currently drowning in a sea of security challenges. Now is definitely not the time to start prioritising the manufacture of security devices over buying them off the counter. Like someone mentioned in this thread, Russia with all its advancement currently buys drones from Iran. Even the US with all their advancement still buy a lot of devices from China, despite the the political/security implications.

Summary of my point is, there is absolutely nothing wrong or silly or dumb about the NAF purchasing 55 attack helicopter gunships; it's a welcome development.

Kazeem47:
ok,what seems impossible.

not this time. Google gunship. Those particular models are only designed for attack unless you will hang outside

asanausana91:
we are waiting for ipob terrorists to start their madness again. We will wipe them out of the surface of earth.

Wetin ur forefathers no fit do,u wan put head?