The issue of tithing goes with lot and lots of controversy and arguments. Some say you should pay tithe while other strongly oppose tithing in all it’s ramification. However, in this segment we shall consider this question “WHO SHOULD PAY TITHE?” It is your answer to the above question that is necessary in handling the question of whether to pay tithe or not.

As we have seen in the scripture, tithing started before the law and tithing is never a commandment. In the old dispensation tithing was only limited to the Israelite, GOD never expected the Gentile nations to pay tithe. Only the covenant people Israel was to be paying their tithe and GOD punished them for failure to pay tithe.

So, when we talk about tithe in this dispensation, GOD is expecting tithe payment only from HIS covenant children, people who has relationship with HIM. YOU NEED TO ASK THIS VERY QUESTION - “AM I A CHILD OF GOD?” Do I have relationship with GOD? It is your answer to the above question that will determine whether GOD is expecting tithe payment from you OR NOT. This is because GOD is not expecting tithe payment from every body. To this end, GOD punishes those HE expect to pay tithe but are not obeying HIM, while HE is not bothered about unbelievers who HE is not expecting their tithe payment.

It is therefore logical that you ask yourself “those who are making noise in this forum that you should not pay tithe –are they children of GOD?” Assuming that you are a child of GOD and they are not and they are trying to convince you not to obey GOD because THEY ARE NOT OBEYING GOD regarding tithe. Be careful, GOD could punish you and they could not be punished. WHY? Remember if you are a child of GOD, that is, if you are a real Christian, the BIBLE said in Colossi ans 1:13 “Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:” You are in a different kingdom. It is like you, refusing to pay your income tax because an American visitor to Nigeria is not paying income tax. In the eye of the law, income tax expectation from you in Nigeria is different from an American visitor to Nigeria. It is like Paul asking the Galatians in Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

@ogoamaka99,

I can understanding the main gist of your OP; but this line is perhaps one among other reasons why many people object to tithing in any form among Christians -

ogoamaka99:

This is because GOD is not expecting tithe payment from every body. To this end, GOD punishes those HE expect to pay tithe but are not obeying HIM, while HE is not bothered about unbelievers who HE is not expecting their tithe payment.

Tithing does not condemn anyone, nor does it save. So, God is not going to punish any Christian for not paying tithes under the new covenant. Most of the blessings in the old covenant (ie., the Law of Moses and prophets) apply to believers under the new covenant; but the curses or punishments in the old covenant may not all apply in the same fashion.

It is therefore logical that you ask yourself “those who are making noise in this forum that you should not pay tithe –are they children of GOD?”

We cannot determine or conclude anything about a person's salvation or justification relationships with God on the basis of tithes. There is only one basis I know of for being a child of God by the new birth in the NT - receiving Jesus Christ by faith in His Name (John 1:12). A person who gives "freewill offering" is not more saved than a person who does not give anything at all - in the same way, nobody can be saved or condemned by obeying or deisobeying pro-tithing/anti-tithing arguments at any level.

Tithing has absolutely nothing to do with anyone's salvation.

It is like you, refusing to pay your income tax because an American visitor to Nigeria is not paying income tax. In the eye of the law, income tax expectation from you in Nigeria is different from an American visitor to Nigeria.

No, that analogy is faulty. Although the Christian life is not lawless, yet it is not based on legalism (the letter of the Law).

Christians are urged to pay taxes to the civil and political governments wherever they live (Romans 13:6-7) - and in that context, the payment is in a legal sense. The "pay" in 'for this cause pay ye tribute also' is 'teleo' (τελέω) - and it is the same word used in Jesus' payment of a tax in Matthew 17:24 - ('Doth not your master pay tribute?').

However, tithes are not compulsory for Christians - not in any legal sense of 'teleo' (τελέω). Even under the old covenant, Israel gave tithes in the form of a GIFT as a pointer to their worship to God (see Numbers 18:24).

The point in this is simply to let Christians do as each one has determined for themselves - some give in the form of contributions, or freewill offerings, or donations, or fellowships, or firstfruits - or even tithes. Nobody will be punished for giving in the form of tithes/freewill/firstfruits/donations/fellowships/contributions, etc. Perhaps, the one type of giving that believers can't get away with is that type of giving which is pretentious in character in order to buy the favour of men (Acts 5) or the gift of God (Acts 8:20).

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Thanks for clarifying one of the most ignorant posts I have encountered on Nairaland. I hope you can see the consequences brain-washing from "MOG's" causes by inundating people with their fraudulent ("Gospel"} interpretation of Tithing. Just imagine the garbage conjured up by this individual, its shocking.

wordtalk:

@ogoamaka99,

Tithing does not condemn anyone, nor does it save. So, God is not going to punish any Christian for not paying tithes under the new covenant. Most of the blessings in the old covenant (ie., the Law of Moses and prophets) apply to believers under the new covenant; but the curses or punishments in the old covenant may not all apply in the same fashion.
Tithing has absolutely nothing to do with anyone's salvation.

@wordtalk,
You do believe in tithing.? Do read Malachi 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. If you actually believe in tithing you should the above scriptures.
GOD is not expecting an unbeliever to tithe. But for a christian who is not a tither there is great consequences.

SHALOM!

ogoamaka99:

The issue of tithing goes with lot and lots of controversy and arguments.

ALL ARGUMENT AND CONTROVERSY IN CHRISTIANITY IS FAKE.

Like American Wrestling, controversy in Christianity is merely to Control the Masses by Sympathy and Cathartic Release.

The Bottom Line is that NOTHING IN ORGANIZED CHRISTIANITY is done because THE LORD COMMANDED IT.

The Argument that things should be done because YAHSHUA said so is NEVER accepted as valid reasoning!

Some say you should pay tithe while other strongly oppose tithing in all it’s ramification.

Do Christians follow GOD, or what "SOME SAY?"

It is INSANITY!

However, in this segment we shall consider this question “WHO SHOULD PAY TITHE?” It is your answer to the above question that is necessary in handling the question of whether to pay tithe or not.

May God Bless you, by making sure than none of the things I want to happen to your mother come to pass during her lifetime- for that pile of bovine lower bowel product that you just dumped on us.

Namely this:

"YOU GOT THE POWERRR!!!"

It is NOT up to US, nor ANY HUMAN BEING, to DECIDE whether we should PAY TITHES, or DO ANYTHING AT ALL, for that matter!

The sheer ARROGANCY of your kind, in suggesting that you are fit to debate such matters is disgusting!

That NOBODY but NOBODY debates THAT is DISTURBING!

As we have seen in the scripture, tithing started before the law and tithing is never a commandment.

Are you MENTAL?

"WE" have seen NO such thing in the Scripture, because "WE" read THE SCRIPTURE, while YOU have been reading... ("What IS that STUFF? I thought Ancient Scriptures were written on INTESTINES- not what comes OUT of Intestines!" )

Have you never read DEUTERONOMY 26?

Do you belong to one of those churches that does not believe things EXIST in The Bible, unless the PRIEST reads them to you.

. DEUTERONOMY 26:12-19.

In the old dispensation tithing was only limited to the Israelite,

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

WHY DO YOU THINK THE GENTILES WERE CALLED "SINNERS?"

. DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16.

13. Thou shalt not
have in thy bag divers weights,
a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not have
in thine house divers measures,
a great and a small.
15. But thou shalt have
a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure
shalt thou have:
that thy days may be
lengthened in the land
which the LORD thy God
giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
and all that do unrighteously,
are an Abomination
unto The LORD thy God.

THESE PEOPLE WERE ALL ABOMINABLE, BY GOD'S STANDARD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

GOD didn't want their MONEY, He didn't want THEIR FirstFruits- HE WANTED THEIR TOTAL AND UNCONDITIONAL REPENTANCE!

. ZECHARIAH 14:16-21.

16. And it shall come to pass,
that every one that is left
of all the Nations
which came against Jerusalem
shall even go up
from year to year
to worship the King,
The LORD of Hosts,
and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
17. And it shall be,
that whoso will not come up
of all the Families of the Earth
unto Jerusalem
to worship the King,
the LORD of Hosts,
even upon them shall be no rain.
18. And if the Family of Egypt
go not up,
and come not,
that have no rain;
there shall be the Plague,
wherewith The LORD
will smite the Heathen
that come not up
to keep The Feast of Tabernacles.
19. This shall be
the Punishment of Egypt,
and the Punishment of all Nations
that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
20. In that day
shall there be
upon the bells of the horses,
HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD;
and the pots
in The LORD'S House
shall be like the Bowls
before The Altar.
21. Yea, every pot in Jerusalem
and in Judah shall be Holiness
unto The LORD of Hosts:
and all they that Sacrifice
shall come and take of them,
and seethe therein:
and in that day
there shall be no more
the Canaanite
in the House of The LORD of Hosts.

ALL NATIONS THAT DID NOT RECOGNIZE THE LAW OF GOD, AND COME UP TO JERUSALEM EACH YEAR, FOR THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES, NOR PAY THEIR TITHES AND OFFERINGS, WERE IN VIOLATION OF THE HOLY COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND GUILTY OF ROBBING GOD, AND WERE IN FORFEITURE OF THEIR SOULS AND BODIES.

WHO sent you here to tell all these lies?

Tell us whom you really represent?

The JESUIT ORDER- this is their purview, and their typical handiwork.

GOD never expected the Gentile nations to pay tithe. Only the covenant people Israel was to be paying their tithe and GOD punished them for failure to pay tithe.

Anndd... when everyone has come back from FANTASYLAND, The Raw Truth will be RIGHT HERE, waiting for you!

. DEUTERONOMY 27:26.

26. Cursed be he
that confirmeth not
all The Words of this Law
to do them.
And all the people
shall say,
"Amen."

So, when we talk about tithe in this dispensation, GOD is expecting tithe payment only from HIS covenant children, people who has relationship with HIM.

Are you MENTAL?

Are some people EXEMPT from "HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD?"

. EZEKIEL 18:4.

4. "Behold, all souls are mine;
as the soul of the father,
so also the soul of the son
is Mine:
the soul that sinneth,
it shall die."

You are trying to tell us to think that there are some Souls that do not belong to YAHWEH GOD?

YOU NEED TO ASK THIS VERY QUESTION - “AM I A CHILD OF GOD?” Do I have relationship with GOD?

The purpose here is to reinforce the False Doctrine that everybody connected to the King in any way is his Son or his Daughter.

From the Princes and Princesses seat on their thrones with him, holding court, to the kids who sweep rectal deposits from the stables, and stalls, to the madmen who rummage on the garbage dump, and eat it- all these have some connection to the King, so they are CHILDREN of the King- is that it?

. LUKE 14:7-11.

7. And he put forth a Parable
to those which were bidden,
when he marked how
they chose out the Chief Rooms;
saying unto them,
8. "When thou art bidden
of any man to a wedding,
sit not down in the Highest Room;
lest a more honourable man than thou
be bidden of him;
9. "And he that bade thee and him
come and say to thee,

'GIVE THIS MAN PLACE;'

and thou begin with shame
to take the Lowest Room.
10. "But when thou art bidden,
go and sit down
in the Lowest Room;
that when he
that bade thee cometh,
he may say unto thee,

'FRIEND, GO UP HIGHER:'

then shalt thou have worship
in the presence of them
that sit at meat with thee.
11. "For whosoever exalteth himself
shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself
shall be exalted."

ALL FALSE CHRISTIAN DOCTRINES EMANATE FROM ONE SOURCE- MYSTERY BABYLON: THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH- WHICH IS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

All False Doctrines AFFECT ONLY PROTESTANTS.

ROMAN CATHOLICS KNOW THEIR HISTORY OF TREACHERY AND LYING- SO THEY ARE UNMOVED WHEN THEIR POPE EMBRACES AND KISSES ISLAM, HINDUISM, WITCHCRAFT, SHAMANISM, AND ATHEISM.

They are UNMOVED and UNSHAKEN in their Faith, when their Spiritual Leader, the Pope, announces that THE BOOK OF GENESIS STORY OF CREATION IS A LIE.

Even because THEY KNOW THAT IT IS ALL A CHARADE- not to be taken seriously.

That all this is the setup for WORLD WAR FOUR, where they FINALLY eradicate PROTESTANTISM, ISLAM, and other Religions, for once and for all.

. 1^st JOHN 3:4-17.

4. Whosoever committeth Sin
Transgresseth also The Law:
for Sin is
The Transgression of The Law.
5. And ye know that he was manifested
to take away our Sins;
and in him is no Sin.
6. Whosoever abideth in him Sinneth not:
whosoever Sinneth hath not seen him,
neither known him.
7. Little Children,
let no man deceive you:

"HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS
IS RIGHTEOUS,
EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS."[b]

8. He that committeth Sin
is of The Devil;
for The Devil Sinneth
From The Beginning.
For this Purpose The Son of God
was manifested,

[b]"THAT HE MIGHT DESTROY
THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL."

9. Whosoever is Born of God
doth not Commit Sin;
for His Seed remaineth in him:
and he cannot Sin,
because he is Born of God.
10. In this The Children of God are manifest,
and The Children of The Devil:

"WHOSOEVER DOETH NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS
IS NOT OF GOD,
NEITHER HE THAT
LOVETH NOT HIS BROTHER."

11. For this is The Message
that ye heard From The Beginning,

"THAT WE SHOULD LOVE
ONE ANOTHER."

12. Not as Cain,
who was of That Wicked One,
and slew his Brother.
And wherefore slew he him?
Because his own Works were Evil,
and his Brother's Righteous.
13. Marvel not, my Brethren,
if the World hate you.
14. We know that we have Passed
from Death unto Life,
because we love the Brethren.
He that loveth not his Brother
abideth in Death.
15. Whosoever hateth his Brother
is a Murderer:
and ye know that no Murderer
hath Eternal Life abiding in him.
16. Hereby perceive we
The Love of God,
because he laid down his life for us:
and we ought to lay down our lives
for the Brethren.
17. But whoso hath this World's Good,
and seeth his Brother have Need,
and shutteth up
his Bowels of Compassion
from him,
how dwelleth The Love of God
in him?

NO ONE IN THE HISTORY OF CHRISTIANITY BESIDES YAHSHUA HAS EVER HAD THE RIGHT TO CALL THEMSELVES "CHILDREN OF GOD."

It is the ULTIMATE SELF-EXALTATION.

Anyone who is a CHILD OF GOD has FINISHED with SIN; their Spiritual Power is so great, that TEMPTATION cannot compel them into Sin. The Secret of Sin is that TEMPTATION is FINITE.

RIGHTEOUSNESS IS FINITE.

Righteous people serve God wholeheartedly- until Dinnertime, or the Wife and Kids are in PAIN, the BOSS wants something, or a Customer walks in- or any number of "legitimate" concerns.

A HOLY MAN will SACRIFICE ANYTHING- EYE, HAND, FOOT, RICHARD- in order to SERVE GOD WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

This Willpower surpasses ANY Temptation.

Only HOLY persons can be CHILDREN OF GOD.

GOD cannot have DEFECTIVE CHILDREN.

Once you let someone confer "CHILD OF GOD" on you, THEY AND THEIR ORGANIZATION will OWN YOU FOR LIFE.

Don't take MY WORD for it- SEE FOR YOURSELF what happens to people who let someone tell them:

"Nigbati Nigbati Sugbon Abracadabra: YOU ARE NOW A CHILD OF GOD!"

"BUT I FELT DIFFERENT, AFTER I COMMANDED THE LORD TO LEAVE HIS FATHER'S THRONE IN HEAVEN, AND COME INTO MY CORRUPT AND DESPERATELY-WICKED HEART!"

Of COURSE you felt different, darling- before, you were falling into HELL by PARACHUTE- when you accepted the OYINBO FAKE BORN AGAIN DOCTRINE, you UNBUCKLED YOURSELF from the Parachute!

It is such an EXCITING FEELING- until you reach the GROUND.

The Good News is that you don't have to bother your head with Burial Expenses- that is... sort of taken care of....

NONE OF THE BORN AGAIN FORMULAS WORK: PERIOD.

The Doctrine, as the Oyinbos Teach it, is a LIE.

There is NOTHING you can do in ONE DAY that can make you a CHILD OF GOD.

It is NOT impossible- nothing is- but nobody has that kind of POWER today.

You have to SEVER a person's CONNECTION to EVERY POSSIBLE SIN.

Very few people who would WANT that could SURVIVE the process, without their BRAIN turning to EBA.

It is your answer to the above question that will determine whether GOD is expecting tithe payment from you OR NOT.

THIS IS JUST A LIE.

EVERYBODY OWES GOD THEIR TITHE: PERIOD.

This is because GOD is not expecting tithe payment from every body. To this end, GOD punishes those HE expect to pay tithe but are not obeying HIM, while HE is not bothered about unbelievers who HE is not expecting their tithe payment.

TOTAL LIE: See DEUTERONOMY 27:26.

It is therefore logical that you ask yourself “those who are making noise in this forum that you should not pay tithe –are they children of GOD?”

A weak mind will only see the alternatives set before them by the Deceivers, and be unable to think in other terms.

The only reason for telling people not to pay tithes is to block the flow of revenue into Protestant Churches.

WHO COULD CARE IF UNBELIEVERS DONATED MONEY TO CHURCHES?

ONLY the people who HATE the Churches.

. LUKE 16:1-15.

AND he said also unto his Disciples,

"There was a certain rich man,
which had a steward;
and the same was accused unto him
that he had wasted his goods.
2. "And he called him, and said unto him,

'HOW IS IT THAT
I HEAR THIS OF THEE?
GIVE AN ACCOUNT
OF THY STEWARDSHIP;
FOR THOU MAYEST BE
NO LONGER STEWARD.'

3. "Then the steward said within himself,

'What shall I do?
For my lord taketh away
from me the stewardship:
I cannot dig; to beg I am ashamed.
4. 'I am resolved what to
do, that, when I am put out
of the stewardship,
they may receive me
into their houses.'

5. "So he called every one
of his lord's debtors unto him
and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU UNTO MY LORD?'

6. "And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY,
AND WRITE FIFTY.'

7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH OWEST THOU?'

And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'

8. "And the lord commended
the unjust steward,
because he had done wisely:
for the Children of this World
are in their Generation
wiser than the Children of Light.
9. "And I say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS
OF THE MAMMON
OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
THAT, WHEN YE FAIL,
THEY MAY RECIEVE YOU
INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'

10. "He that is Faithful
in that which is Least
is Faithful also in Much:
and he that is Unjust in the Least
is Unjust also in Much.
11. "If therefore ye have not been
Faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon,
who will commit to your trust
The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not
been Faithful
in that which is
another man's,
who shall give you
that which is your own?
13. "No Servant can
serve two Masters:
for either he will hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and Mammon."

14. And the Pharisees also,
who were Covetous,
heard all these things,
and they derided him.
15. And he said unto them,

"Ye are they
which justify yourselves
before Men;
but God knoweth
your hearts:
for that which is
Highly Esteemed amongst Men
is Abomination in The Sight of God."

YOU FALSE TEACHERS ALWAYS DIVERT INQUIRIES AWAY FROM THE ONLY IMPORTANT QUESTION:

"DO YOU TEACH THE TRUE GOSPEL, OR JUST WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR?"

Assuming that you are a child of GOD and they are not and they are trying to convince you not to obey GOD because THEY ARE NOT OBEYING GOD regarding tithe.

NOTE HOW ATTENTION IS PLACED ON TITHING ALONE, AND NOT ALL THE OTHER TEACHINGS OF THE LORD.

. MATTHEW 23:23.

23. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
For ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin,
and have omitted the weightier matters of the law,
judgment, mercy, and faith:
these ought ye to have done,
and not to leave the other undone."

Be careful, GOD could punish you and they could not be punished.

That is a lie you tell to comfort yourself, that you will not be punished?

. PROVERBS 11:18-21.

18. The Wicked worketh
a Deceitful Work:
but to him that soweth Righteousness
shall be a sure Reward.
19. As Righteousness tendeth to life:
so he that pursueth Evil
pursueth it to his own death.
20. They that are of
a froward heart
are Abomination to The LORD:
but such as are upright
in their Way
are His Delight.
21. Though hand join in hand,
the Wicked shall not be unpunished:
but the Seed of the Righteous
shall be delivered.

WHY? Remember if you are a child of GOD, that is, if you are a real Christian, the BIBLE said in Colossi ans 1:13 “Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:” You are in a different kingdom. It is like you, refusing to pay your income tax because an American visitor to Nigeria is not paying income tax. In the eye of the law, income tax expectation from you in Nigeria is different from an American visitor to Nigeria. It is like Paul asking the Galatians in Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

IT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU SHOULD BRING UP PAUL- WHO WAS A LEADING FALSE CHRISTIAN, HIMSELF!

So, the goal here would be to CONSOLIDATE the BORN AGAIN DECEPTION, by having your victims pay tithes, thinking that they aew doing it because they are CHILDREN OF GOD.