Sand2022:
The witnesses say that Babylon the Great in the book of revelation stands for all false religions. In other words, all religion that is not Jehovah's witnesses are under the title Babylon the Great. They say these because the bible condemn Babylon for their spiritistic practices.

However, see the clear meaning at Rev 17:
18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

Simply put, it means the the Great City, but this city has a kingdom over the kings of the earth. It is not even a world empire as supposed by the witnesses. It is a city. It is possible that a city can have influence over other nations. Was it not what the ancient city of Babylon did? [/b]Mind you, Babylon was still standing as at this time John wrote this. How do you know if this verse is not about Babylon? There is admittedly differences of opinion here. Many scholars see this city as Rome. Some say it's Jerusalem. Iam not arguing for anyone. We can't be dogmatic.

When arguing Rev 20;13-15, the witnesses usually says that Lake of fire [b]means the second death because that is what the verse said, but they now came to Rev 17:18, they saw means, they gave it rather another meaning when the bible has already told us the meaning.

If you want to teach another, no wahala, but don't just keep condemning other religions for your imperfect doctrine. You may just be wrong and you don't know.

Janosky:

Pinkylovely Carry this GIBBERISH outta here.

Sand2022:
The witnesses say that Babylon the Great in the book of revelation stands for all false religions. In other words, all religion that is not Jehovah's witnesses are under the title Babylon the Great. They say these because the bible condemn Babylon for their spiritistic practices.

However, see the clear meaning at Rev 17:
18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

Simply put, it means the the Great City, but this city has a kingdom over the kings of the earth. It is not even a world empire as supposed by the witnesses. It is a city. It is possible that a city can have influence over other nations. Was it not what the ancient city of Babylon did? Mind you, Babylon was still standing as at this time John wrote this. How do you know if this verse is not about Babylon? There is admittedly differences of opinion here. Many scholars see this city as Rome. Some say it's Jerusalem. Iam not arguing for anyone. We can't be dogmatic.

Sand2022:



However, see the clear meaning at Rev 17:
18 And the woman whom you saw [b]means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”
[/b]


When arguing Rev 20;13-15, the witnesses usually says that Lake of fire means the second death because that is what the verse said, but they now came to Rev 17:18, they saw [b]means, they gave it rather another meaning when the bible has already told us the meaning.[/b]

If you want to teach another, no wahala, but don't just keep condemning other religions for your imperfect doctrine. You may just be wrong and you don't know.

Sand2022:
The witnesses say that Babylon the Great in the book of revelation stands for all false religions. In other words, all religion that is not Jehovah's witnesses are under the title Babylon the Great. They say these because the bible condemn Babylon for their spiritistic practices.

However, see the clear meaning at Rev 17:
18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

Simply put, it means the the Great City, but this city has a kingdom over the kings of the earth. It is not even a world empire as supposed by the witnesses. It is a city. It is possible that a city can have influence over other nations. Was it not what the ancient city of Babylon did? Mind you, Babylon was still standing as at this time John wrote this. How do you know if this verse is not about Babylon? There is admittedly differences of opinion here. Many scholars see this city as Rome. Some say it's Jerusalem. Iam not arguing for anyone. We can't be dogmatic.

When arguing Rev 20;13-15, the witnesses usually says that Lake of fire means the second death because that is what the verse said, but they now came to Rev 17:18, they saw means, they gave it rather another meaning when the bible has already told us the meaning.

If you want to teach another, no wahala, but don't just keep condemning other religions for your imperfect doctrine. You may just be wrong and you don't know.

paxonel:
Yes!
Jehovah witnesses are terribly wrong by teaching themselves that Babylon the great implies religious groups other than their own Jehovah witness. It shows how myopic and deceptive the organization can be to them who are taking such teachings seriously.
But however, if you understand the visions of Daniel in relation to revelations of John, you will have a critical explanation why Babylon the great is written in the book of revelation.

Babylon the great refers to the idolatory practiced by that great ancient city called Babylon right from the old testament era of Daniel, Michaic and Abednego and perhaps even up to the era Jesus was crucified and there was on-set of Christianity.
At that time, few people practiced Christianity and were persecuted by a vast majority of
people practicing idolatry from the great city called Babylonian.

Also, notice that practicing idolatry at that time was like practicing a religion.
And Christianity was another new religion that had started springing up with few adherents.
Not just only the idolarerers percecuted Christians, even the Jews who practiced Judaism had also persecute Christians.

So, persecution was a spiritual battle mentioned by Daniel's prophecies which also reflected in the book of revelation as Babylon the great

With this, Jehovah witnesses are only putting themselves into deception, not having a clue of what they are teaching

Sand2022:
The witnesses say that Babylon the Great in the book of revelation stands for all false religions. In other words, all religion that is not Jehovah's witnesses are under the title Babylon the Great. They say these because the bible condemn Babylon for their spiritistic practices.

However, see the clear meaning at Rev 17:
18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

Simply put, it means the the Great City, but this city has a kingdom over the kings of the earth. It is not even a world empire as supposed by the witnesses. It is a city. It is possible that a city can have influence over other nations. Was it not what the ancient city of Babylon did? Mind you, Babylon was still standing as at this time John wrote this. How do you know if this verse is not about Babylon? There is admittedly differences of opinion here. Many scholars see this city as Rome. Some say it's Jerusalem. Iam not arguing for anyone. We can't be dogmatic.

When arguing Rev 20;13-15, the witnesses usually says that Lake of fire means the second death because that is what the verse said, but they now came to Rev 17:18, they saw means, they gave it rather another meaning when the bible has already told us the meaning.

If you want to teach another, no wahala, but don't just keep condemning other religions for your imperfect doctrine. You may just be wrong and you don't know.

AnAbnormalHuman:



That Babylon the Great, it's not a physical Kingdom, it's Spiritual.

AnAbnormalHuman:

That Babylon the Great, it's not a physical Kingdom, it's Spiritual.

MaxInDHouse:


Ancient Babylon was the center of all kinds of worship yet they welcomed any idea as long as it doesn't go against the sovereignty of Babylon.
So Trinity Doctrine is Babylon the Great cause different religions emerged under Trinity even though they're contradicting themselves yet they all bow to Trinity and they keep fighting and killing one another over politics something Trinity supposed to resolve for them if truly it's from God!

Maynman:

Mad man, the Babylon the great is Circe, your "spiritual" delusion is just a parody of Greek gods.

The Apocryphal Book of Revelation includes references to this Goddess, Circe. She is described as the Great Wh.ore who sits on many waters and seven hills.
In Revelation 17:4, it is written, "And the woman [symbolizing a church/kirke] was arrayed in purple and scarlet color and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication."

Revelation 18:23-24 states, "Because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery (pharmakeia). And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth."

The Greek word translated as "sorcery" in this verse is "pharmakeia," which is the root of our words "Pharmacy" and "pharmaceutical" (DRUGS).

AnAbnormalHuman:


This keyboard warrior finna stalk me so badly
Did I break your heart? Sorry I did, you'll recover

Maynman:

Spiritual nonentity 😂. Anything you lack knowledge on is "spiritual".

AnAbnormalHuman:


Just the same way everything you screenshot from Google is a given fact?

Remember that definition of a FOOL? He who doesn't know, and doesn't know that he doesn't know? Lol.
I'll simplify the explanation of a fool for you: grab a mirror and look in it — there you have it.


Now run along boy... Look for bones elsewhere.

AnAbnormalHuman:

Why telling me this?
Did I speak about trinity?
Do I believe in trinity?

MaxInDHouse:


All other religions has been in existence before the birth of TRINITY yet none has countless offshoot like TRINITY that has given birth to so many children all claiming Abrahamic in faith!

AnAbnormalHuman:

Man I wonder why you've made it a goal to tell me this. Okay, after learning these, what next?

MaxInDHouse:

Next thing is to find out why God established a form of worship (religion) when He made a covenant with the nation of Israel.
That will answer the question regarding what Satan wants to achieve with the initiation of countless religions.
I became one of Jehovah's Witnesses after knowing the truth about religion so when i see anyone interested in religious matters i feel like such a person is my brother in faith! Matthew 12:46-50

AnAbnormalHuman:

Man I'm utterly confused. Why do I need to know all these about you because of my reply to Sandman2022...?
Did I dabble into your opinion on religions? You should be telling sandman all these, not me. I'm not interested in religious matter here on this thread. I was just making an observation, so yes, I ain't anyone's brother in Faith.

AnAbnormalHuman:

But you also said well by adding that the JWs shouldn't condemn other religions as a way of redeeming themselves from their imperfections.

MaxInDHouse:


Well Jehovah's Witnesses are right for their understanding of the word Babylon the Great that's what i want to correct in your comment.

You should have dropped your comment without mentioning JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and saying what we do is wrong:

Emusan:


But the same Jehovah are not right when they say what the Apostles did was generosity and not EVIL like you claim.

Emusan:

But the same Jehovah are not right when they say what the Apostles did was generosity and not EVIL like you claim.

MaxInDHouse:


Well Jehovah's Witnesses are right for their understanding of the word Babylon the Great that's what i want to correct in your comment.

You should have dropped your comment without mentioning JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and saying what we do is wrong:

MaxInDHouse:


Peter was kind when he advised Jesus yet Jesus called Peter "Satan" Matthew 16:21-23

AnAbnormalHuman:


See why I call y'all funny set of peeps? 😂
So somehow, Jesus forgot Peter's name and decided to call him Satan?

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AnAbnormalHuman:

Wait,
1. Are you a PR for JWs? (I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if that's your full-time job)
2. You're saying I shouldn't have talked about JWs, meanwhile they talk about every single sect in the world?
Funny set of peeps.
And yh, you started selling your organization to me again. I observed that immediately.

AnAbnormalHuman:


See why I call y'all funny set of peeps? 😂
So somehow, Jesus forgot Peter's name and decided to call him Satan?

Or Jesus was speaking to Satan himself? 😂
Is it just you or y'all are this funny? 😂

When Jesus said to Peter, “Get behind me Satan.”
Did Peter physically get behind Jesus?
Isn't it wise to say that Satan (whom Jesus was talking to) got out?

Y'all should step up your game.

MaxInDHouse:


Guy the comment you quoted wasn't for you so you can't grasp what led to that statement!

MaxInDHouse:


If you're not interested in religion then there's no reason why you should dabble into religious topics.
Know today that religion has always been about which is true and which is false so you can't separate religion from mentioning what is wrong when it comes to sacred matters.