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Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by kingxsamz(m): 8:55pm On Dec 30, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Kingmadsamz, I no you have no home and no legs therefore you have companionship with the failure on his way to hell.
Chai, madness have finally caught up with you.
Even your fellow Christians would be highly disappointed.
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by Dtruthspeaker: 11:35pm On Dec 30, 2022
kingxsamz:

Chai, madness have finally caught up with you.
Even your fellow Christians would be highly disappointed.

Kingmadsamz the lame, your dustbin house must be running out, don't worry, lawma would soon bring fresh supply.
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by Ken4Christ: 11:40pm On Dec 30, 2022
kingxsamz:


Lol, address what I said.
Did any of them have any knowledge or experience of what consequence is? Did they understand the concept of good and bad before eating the fruit?

Yes, they knew. Eve said;

Genesis 3:3
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

She knew that eating it will lead to death.

She was deceived by the serpent that she will not die.

But Adam was not deceived. He willfully sinned against God.

Even today, that most of us are aware of the consequences of our sins, we still sin against God.

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Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by kingxsamz(m): 2:02am On Dec 31, 2022
Ken4Christ:


Yes, they knew. Eve said;

Genesis 3:3
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

She knew that eating it will lead to death.

She was deceived by the serpent that she will not die.

But Adam was not deceived. He willfully sinned against God.

Even today, that most of us are aware of the consequences of our sins, we still sin against God.


Isn't the fruit the key to that knowledge?
How can they know or understand such concept when they haven't eaten the fruit?
It's like teaching a primary 2 student chemistry . The student can repeat the words you teach them but do they understand or have any knowledge of it?
How can they even understand death or know what death is when they've never experienced it in anyway?
You still haven't answered my question.
All you've said is Eve repeated what she was told. So answer.
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by Ken4Christ: 8:07am On Dec 31, 2022
kingxsamz:


Isn't the fruit the key to that knowledge?
How can they know or understand such concept when they haven't eaten the fruit?
It's like teaching a primary 2 student chemistry . The student can repeat the words you teach them but do they understand or have any knowledge of it?
How can they even understand death or know what death is when they've never experienced it in anyway?
You still haven't answered my question.
All you've said is Eve repeated what she was told. So answer.

They were created in the image and likeness of God. So, they knew. Otherwise, Eve wouldn't have acknowledged what God told Adam.

You that know the consequences of your errors, why are you still committing sins worthy of judgment?
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by Dtruthspeaker: 9:18am On Dec 31, 2022
kingxsamz:

Isn't the fruit the key to that knowledge?

No it is not!

They had other knowledges eg knowledge of knowing to Obey God, knowledge of husband and wife, knowledge of love, knowledge of how to defend himself when accused etc before the eating of the fruit.

The only thing the fruit added is the power of knowing that a thing is evil eg knowledge of knowing thatnsleeping with another person's husband is evil.

Or that a thing is good eg helping the blind to cross the road is good.

That is all the fruit caused. After that, the doing of any thing whether good or evil was in the hands of male and female Adam.

Do no road!
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by kingxsamz(m): 11:41am On Dec 31, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


No it is not!

They had other knowledges eg knowledge of knowing to Obey God, knowledge of husband and wife, knowledge of love, knowledge of how to defend himself when accused etc before the eating of the fruit.

The only thing the fruit added is the power of knowing that a thing is evil eg knowledge of knowing thatnsleeping with another person's husband is evil.

Or that a thing is good eg helping the blind to cross the road is good.

That is all the fruit caused. After that, the doing of any thing whether good or evil was in the hands of male and female Adam.

Do no road!

Dem no dey follow mad man argue, so I'm not reading all that.
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by kingxsamz(m): 11:45am On Dec 31, 2022
Ken4Christ:


They were created in the image and likeness of God. So, they knew. Otherwise, Eve wouldn't have acknowledged what God told Adam.

You that know the consequences of your errors, why are you still committing sins worthy of judgment?

Still avoiding my questions hmm?
Since they knew, why did they cover themselves after eating the fruit?
And if you say they knew, do you agree that Adam and eve had the knowledge of good and evil the moment they were created?

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Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by Dtruthspeaker: 3:06pm On Dec 31, 2022
kingxsamz:


Dem no dey follow mad man argue, so I'm not reading all that.

Madsamz no fit argue before after all e go dey impossible for you to have any valid counter especially as na only one seemingly intelligent thing fit come out of your evil mad mouth.
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by kingxsamz(m): 3:43pm On Dec 31, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Madsamz no fit argue before after all e go dey impossible for you to have any valid counter especially as na only one seemingly intelligent thing fit come out of your evil mad mouth.

grin grin
Okay, I don hear you. Sha no enter market.
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by Ken4Christ: 4:58pm On Dec 31, 2022
kingxsamz:


Still avoiding my questions hmm?
Since they knew, why did they cover themselves after eating the fruit?
And if you say they knew, do you agree that Adam and eve had the knowledge of good and evil the moment they were created?

Knowledge is in stages. To some extent, I believed they knew but no the complete depth. Otherwise, Adam should have asked God what death meant.

For Eve to acknowledge that God said they would die means they knew what death was.

But what is most important now is your salvation. You will keep asking questions until the devil escort your soul to hell.
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by kingxsamz(m): 5:05pm On Dec 31, 2022
Ken4Christ:


Knowledge is in stages. To some extent, I believed they knew but no the complete depth. Otherwise, Adam should have asked God what death meant.

For Eve to acknowledge that God said they would die means they knew what death was.

But what is most important now is your salvation. You will keep asking questions until the devil escort your soul to hell.

You're not even sure so you can't give a direct answer. You're now saying what you think not what you're sure of.
Just agree that it's just a poor written story filled with multiple contradictions, by men who didn't know where the sun went at night.

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Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by Ken4Christ: 3:19am On Jan 01, 2023
kingxsamz:


You're not even sure so you can't give a direct answer. You're now saying what you think not what you're sure of.
Just agree that it's just a poor written story filled with multiple contradictions, by men who didn't know where the sun went at night.

I am not guessing. It's the fact. Knowledge is definitely in stages. Even up till now, no one can claim complete knowledge of anything.

God cannot warn them of something they do not understand. So, Adam knew he would die. Eve also knew hut she was deceived.

Like I said in my previous comment, give your life to Christ. This is the most important thing for now.
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by kingxsamz(m): 10:05am On Jan 01, 2023
Ken4Christ:


I am not guessing. It's the fact. Knowledge is definitely in stages. Even up till now, no one can claim complete knowledge of anything.

God cannot warn them of something they do not understand. So, Adam knew he would die. Eve also knew hut she was deceived.

Like I said in my previous comment, give your life to Christ. This is the most important thing for now.

So did they have knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit? It's a simple question.
Don't tell me "knowledge is in stages" because you don't know how else to answer. And we both know most Christians will disagree with you since the fruit opened their eyes.
Re: Why Can't God Just Forgive.... by AntiChristian: 10:08pm On Jan 07, 2023
Ken4Christ:


I am not guessing. It's the fact. Knowledge is definitely in stages. Even up till now, no one can claim complete knowledge of anything.

God cannot warn them of something they do not understand. So, Adam knew he would die. Eve also knew hut she was deceived.

Like I said in my previous comment, give your life to Christ. This is the most important thing for now.

Which Bible verse states that they knew they would die as you thought they died?

How many have died like they did before them?

Why is their own death different from other's death?
kingxsamz:


So did they have knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit? It's a simple question.
Don't tell me "knowledge is in stages" because you don't know how else to answer. And we both know most Christians will disagree with you since the fruit opened their eyes.

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