Okija_juju:

It pains me to see people associating disciplining a child with child abuse, Thats so far of it.

When a child is spanked, grounded or given coporal punishment that might seem extreme, I do not think it is fair to misconstrue that as child abuse. My mum never flogged me with a cane, she said I had grown resistant to it, so she opted for 30mm coated electric wires. She would tie me to the table and flog the bejesus outta me. If someone where watching from the outside, its tantamount to child abuse, but was it like she did it everytime for no reason? NO!! I knew that the consequences for certain actions was always gonna be the cane. So if you see me being flogged mercilessly, i more than likely brought it on myself. Thats TRAINING A CHILD not child abuse.

Child abuse is when a child is being sexually molested by a parent, not being catered for, is always beaten up for no reason by either a lunatic parent with a short fuse or an alcohlic parent, when a child is exposed to dangers/environments not suitable for a child, when the parents neglect a child, when the basics like food, shelter and school cannot be provided for a child, when a child has to work to support the family, e.t.c,

Please flogging no be abuse o!! Na training, Na when flogging don turn fight na there abuse start,

Your mum abused you bitterly, How would you be tied in the 1st place and next, got beaten with an electric cable?? You shouldn t be proud of this homie. Your mum got it wrong. And unfortunately you got it more wrong to think it was right that you were that tortured. No no no please, we have to train our kids of course but not this way.

pinkrex:

Some children are Devils that no Education or self development can help you manage them.

I know of a child whom is accused of 'witchcraft' because he predict misfortunes for his parents when he is asked of something and not given. It really happens after all. He told his father that he's going to die on his 42nd birthday in other to add his more years to his own age. Tell me how to treat such children

An educated adult typed this

May no child be left in your care or cross your way with such a "horrible" mindset as ypurs.

Are you unwell?Some children are Devils,for real?

Tufia! Lots of mentally deranged folks prowling around after been fed bulls from one mountain of a church.Tufiakwa!

ifyalways:

An educated adult typed this

May no child be left in your care or cross your way with such a "horrible" mindset as ypurs.

Are you unwell?Some children are Devils,for real?

Tufia! Lots of mentally deranged folks prowling around after been fed bulls from one mountain of a church.Tufiakwa!

You are so rude!!!

Secondly an Educated adult like you should be socially mannerd too.

I only asked a question that was directed to a poster who didn't understand my previous post of idioms. I just wanted her to feel the suss of whats at stake before inputing and you are here jamming nonsense from you gutter.


Your husband don suffer cause im sure you wont even know how to politely ask him for money

Anvaller:

Your mum abused you bitterly, How would you be tied in the 1st place and next, got beaten with an electric cable?? You shouldn t be proud of this homie. Your mum got it wrong. And unfortunately you got it more wrong to think it was right that you were that tortured. No no no please, we have to train our kids of course but not this way.

I disagree with you. Thats no abuse.
Take the western kids for example - they talk to their parents the way they like because they can never be punished for what they do.
Try it here with a Nigerian parent and that kid is gonna sleep in the devil's pad.
Kids will always be kids. Sometimes, talkin is not enough. You have to try harder and that involves spankin, floggin.
If i wasn't flogged while growing up, i'll probably be rotting away in some police cell or prison.
My mum is a bit older now and her last was born 15yrs after she stopped child bearing.
She rarely beats or flogs him and this has lead to the boy acting like brat sometimes.

Anvaller:

Your mum abused you bitterly, How would you be tied in the 1st place and next, got beaten with an electric cable?? You shouldn t be proud of this homie. Your mum got it wrong. And unfortunately you got it more wrong to think it was right that you were that tortured. No no no please, we have to train our kids of course but not this way.

Now!! When this was going on, I did consider it to be "child abuse" et al, but now that I am older and wiser, I think back and it feels like she did what she did because she felt it was the only way to set me straight.

Did she flog me because she derived some sick thrill from inflicting pains on me? NO!! Was I ever denied anything that I wanted?! No!! Did this flogging happen for every and any reason?? NO!! Did she ever come back to talk to be about the reason for why i was flogged?? Always!! As a matter of fact, she did the flogging, my dad did the talking.

IF I could go back and change stuff from my past, I wouldnt change my mum, I would simply go back in time and make sure I dont flaut the rules as often as i did.

People are getting flooging as a form of discipline and misconstruing it to be Child abuse and that is what I do not support. I'd rather be caned for doing wrong, than sent to bed without food, or sent out at night after coming back from school to go sell kerosene worth #300 in total. I'd rather cut the grasses and clean the entire compound for a month than go to school with rags on for uniform, hungry, with no books in my bag and a dead beat drunk father at home waiting to pounce on me because my mother pissed him off.


I had this friend who was just so so super stubborn, despite the fact that his father was in the Navy, he still was very truant. I remember that his dad would beat him with his military swagger stick and belts until he couldnt move or cry anymore. Today, this friend of mine is all grown up, responsible and married. He would tell you his dad was the devil, but that it was his fear of the devil that kept him straight in life.

Any parent who gives his/her child a good spanking with the cane, paddle or wire for stealing or watching porn is not abusing the child, thats training. Any parent who sends their kid to bed hungry for whatever reason, is abusing the child. Or any parent who makes a child do serious house and business chores every morning before him or her goes to school is abusing the child. Any parent who deprives a minor of atleast 2hrs play time after school, is abusing the child. Any parent who sends a kid of 8 or 9 on an errand outside of the house unaccompanied by an adult is abusing the child, any kid under 12 who is kept awake doing chores against their will past 9.pm is definitely being abused.

Now

Okija juju, you must have been very stubborn for your mama to beat you like that .
i hope you turned up a great chap sha, cuz i no wan hear say mama wasted her energy tieing and hitting you with cable wire and still you grew horn.

armyofone:

Okija juju, you must have been very stubborn for your mama to beat you like that .
i hope you turned up a great chap sha, cuz i no wan hear say mama wasted her energy tieing and hitting you with cable wire and still you grew horn.

Hey sweerie

gerraway

pinkrex:

You are so rude!!!

Secondly an Educated adult like you should be socially mannerd too.

I only asked a question that was directed to a poster who didn't understand my previous post of idioms. I just wanted her to feel the suss of whats at stake before inputing and you are here jamming nonsense from you gutter.


Your husband don suffer cause im sure you wont even know how to politely ask him for money

Bla bla

Garbage in and out.

Some kids are devils,a boy foresaw the dad's death,child witch. . .rantings of a mentally challenged fella.

Adults who rather than sit up and accept responsibility for their situation,pass on their frustration on the unfortunate kids in their care.

Twa!

armyofone:

gerraway

Come to the room lemme show you something

No right thinking well adjusted parent would want to unnecessarily inflict pain on his own child. Punishment (and reward) are known means of proper conditioning or character moulding. Its usefulness has been validated by science (behavioural psychology), it is approved by the religions (spare the rod and spoil the child), it makes sense on the basis of empirical evidence (dem no train am well or dem spoil am for childhood).

Any thing that can be used to advantage can equally be abused. It doesnt mean it should be abandoned or the right taken away from parents because there is no institution or authority that can replicate this role. The consequence is a whole generation of youth that lack ambition, are ill-mannered and irresponsible, unbridled immorality and criminals. This is the story of UK and the US of the 21st century. The knife-related daily crimes in the UK is a direct result of this kind of systemic failure. Fortunately that society has matured in a way that ours hasnt and are better placed to deal with its challenges.

If our lazy lawmakers chose to copy their laws in their bid to appear 'civilized' and sophisticated it might mean the end of family life and societal harmony as we know it.

I like this topic and even peoples argument but from my own opinion, I think I see problem. So it means many still see sense in heavily beating a child before u can instill a certain discipline? [/b]wow, what a revelation. Look it is an unfortunate situation for both the parent and the child to beat a child wickedly because u want to mold such child.

U must be a lazy parent or just doing something wrong for u to go that extent to mold ur child. [b]Children are not difficult to train provided u create sufficient time to interact with them, they are very innocent but I dont see Nigerian parents doing that, they think once they pay the child's school fees and buy them foods and clothes is what we call interaction. No u must be ur child's friend, talk to them as regularly as possible, bring urself down to their level, by this, u will see undesirable propensities early enough to curb either by mere ear squeezing, smacking and may be some spanking if the kid is a bit stubborn. In order not to spank the kid another time u must do a close follow up to help the child to stay on track.

The point is I see many parents not raising their kids from the psycho logical angle rather they think the cane is the key which could be at times counter productive. My dad gave me alot of beating as a kid but my 2 younger siblings were raised entirely differently because he was already getting old and relaxing and I can tell u they were more psychologically balanced than me. It took me some time to get over it and build confidence. So for me, u can achieve stopping ur child from bad habits without tieing them on the table and beating them with electric cables, c'mon that is unthinkable.

^^Thats the idea. To lower your confidence a bit. Over-confidence can do a lot harm to someone.
Na dat kind over-confidence go make person rob bank for hours without fear.lol

I still maintain that flogging a child as a form of Discipline for a wrong does not and should never amount to child abuse, except where it can be established that the flogging was way too much and too brutal for the crime.

I'm a strong proponent of the cane, It raised me and alot of generations past and present. It worked for my father, it worked for me and I'm gonna use it if necessary on my kids.

If canning a child is considered child abuse, then my kids would be so abused if they dare stray!

Ok, goodluck with caning your kids guys!!! I will train my own kids more on working on their psychology and very less on cane and they will better trained.

So once more, good luck guys!

ifyalways:

Bla bla

Garbage in and out.

Some kids are devils,a boy foresaw the dad's death,child witch. . .rantings of a mentally challenged fella.

Adults who rather than sit up and accept responsibility for their situation,pass on their frustration on the unfortunate kids in their care.

Twa!

Next time be very tactful with your approach. Im a gentleman of no-nonsense

Pennywise:

No right thinking well adjusted parent would want to unnecessarily inflict pain on his own child. Punishment (and reward) are known means of proper conditioning or character moulding. Its usefulness has been validated by science (behavioural psychology), it is approved by the religions (spare the rod and spoil the child), it makes sense on the basis of empirical evidence (dem no train am well or dem spoil am for childhood).

Any thing that can be used to advantage can equally be abused. It doesnt mean it should be abandoned or the right taken away from parents because there is no institution or authority that can replicate this role. The consequence is a whole generation of youth that lack ambition, are ill-mannered and irresponsible, unbridled immorality and criminals. This is the story of UK and the US of the 21st century. The knife-related daily crimes in the UK is a direct result of this kind of systemic failure. Fortunately that society has matured in a way that ours hasnt and are better placed to deal with its challenges.

If our lazy lawmakers chose to copy their laws in their bid to appear 'civilized' and sophisticated it might mean the end of family life and societal harmony as we know it.

Exactly!

The way I see it is that if my child isn't trained at home, the streets/ploice, ect will not hesitate to teach those lessons. I guarantee they will not be gentle either.