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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by ppogba: 2:42pm On Mar 02, 2023
dyera:
As long as there is no electronic transmission of results from polling units. Inec and not nigerians will be the one to decide the number of vote each candidate gets. That can hardly be called a democracy.


Does that invalidate the results collated at the units and wards which were duly signed by all agents and INEC in the presence of voters?

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by floret23(f): 2:43pm On Mar 02, 2023
Parachoko:
I'm waiting to see if Obi and Atiku will choose to waste money going to the tribunal
"When a thief boldly encourages you to go to court, just know that his elder brother is the chief judge" - East African proverb

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Putindbutt: 2:44pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
Ok.




I no wan respond to you.
Loser, go and respond in court and stop disturbing us with your stupid threads.
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by nnamdi640: 2:44pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
WHAT EXACTLY DID THE ELECTORAL ACT SAY ABOUT THE ELECTION RESULTS.??

***(This piece might be very long, but then, if you really need more insight about the electronic transmission wahalla, and what the Electoral Act really says about it, then you have to try and read through to the end..)


I am going to be dropping the quotes, with little comments after them.



For those that would argue that the INEC Guidelines are not recognised by the Electoral Act.., the Section-148 had provided answers to that argument.

Even though the INEC Guidelines should not override the Electoral Act,, but then, wherever the Electoral Act give powers to the “Commission”, then the words that are contained inside the “INEC Guidelines” and “Manuals” would become the Authentic Law with respect to those sections where the Electoral Act gave powers to the Commission..




Refer back to Section-148..
The “INEC Guidelines” fully prescribed the manner for the “Transmission” of the results. Inside the INEC Guidelines, the INEC made it very clear that they developed a system known as the “Collation Support and Result Verification System” (CSRVS), in order facilitate the “TRANSMISSION” of Results and Accreditation Data.


It should be made very clear at this point; that the Online Results-Viewing Portal (IREV) is just the platform for the public to view the supposed Polling-Units Results that were uploaded to the online viewing portal,, AND NOT THE REQUIRED PLATFORM WHICH THE INEC DEDICATED FOR THE ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION AND COLLATION AND VERIFICATION OF RESULTS, AS POINTED OUT INSIDE THE ELECTORAL ACT.

The platform for the E-transmission and E-collation as required by the Electoral Act is the CSRVS, and not really the IREV.





The Commission, as referred to in this Act, is the INEC.

Refer back to Section-148..
The INEC fully prescribed the manner for the “Transfer” of the results (including the “transfer” of the total number of accredited voters) inside the INEC Guidelines.




Take note of the word “Deliver” in the Section-62(1); which is totally different from the word “Transfer” which was used in Section-60(5)..

***(This might be the ONLY part of the Electoral Act which the INEC-Chairman read, and believed that the Electoral Act provided for ONLY the Manual Delivery of the Results)..

Also note that the Electoral Act also didn't expressly dictate the exact methods of collation to be deployed.
But then, no matter the method of Collation used,, Section-64 should be checks-and-balances tool which must be applied.
And there is a strong penalty for violating Section-64.



NOW, LET US TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT SECTION-64..


A result -- According to Section-64(9) -- is regarded as “False Result” if it didn't follow the procedures specified in Section-64(6)-(a-to-d).. -- which is, Electronic Transmission and Collation, and Verification.




Going by Section-65(1):
It simply means that the returning officer can upturn the decisions of the Presiding Officer, or those of the collation officers if -- within the review period -- there were errors which the returning officer had corrected.












I PURPOSELY DID NOT DROP ANY QUOTES FROM THE “INEC GUIDELINES”..
SO THAT WE WON'T CONFUSE OURSELVES..

ALL THE QUOTES WHICH I HAVE DROPPED HERE ARE ALL QUOTED ENTIRELY FROM THE ELECTORAL ACT OF 2022.
You see all this constitutions you are posting here will one day be used against you guys, in life you don't always win all the times. Enjoy your victory why it last.
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 2:45pm On Mar 02, 2023
seunmsg:
The results have been transmitted to irev already so what your point again?
CSRVS..


Not IREV.



(IF YOU CANNOT READ WELL AND UNDERSTAND PROPERLY, PLEASE STOP COMMENTING)..



The IREV of a stuff, that was badly tampered with.
And we didn't even see the original documents.
They were just removed and replaced.
THE IREV PORTAL WAS HACKED BY THE INEC ITSELF.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 2:46pm On Mar 02, 2023
nnamdi640:
You see all this constitutions you are posting here will one day be used against you guys, in life you don't always win all the times. Enjoy your victory why it last.
Don't always be emotional.


Read to understand first.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by KanwuliaExtra: 2:46pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
It's their money..




If they choose to waste their money, it's supposed to be their problem..

Not Your Problem..

GBAM!

Afterall TINUBU wasted Lagos money for 25 years! grin

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by MrColdsweat: 2:46pm On Mar 02, 2023
kozmokaz:


Na learned people de comment here abeg
I lost brain cells reading that incoherent trash from that mister.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 2:48pm On Mar 02, 2023
Putindbutt:

Loser, go and respond in court and stop disturbing us with your stupid threads.
What happened to “Read And Pass”.??

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by onuman: 2:48pm On Mar 02, 2023
Goke7:
none of the two candidates challenging the elections had the spread to be declared winner, it will be difficult for them to reclaim any stolen mandate if any was even stolen, how?

Complaining of technical hitches can never invalidate an election, na waste of time

The proclaimed winner had no spread either, because his results were mostly forged.
Imagine for example, Tinubu winning Rivers state. Rivers people are up in arms against the robbery of election in their state. We must not allow Buhari cabal that wants to continue in office through Shettima as effective president with aged and sickly Tinubu as figure head president, to set fire on Nigeria.
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by MrColdsweat: 2:48pm On Mar 02, 2023
seunmsg:
The results have been transmitted to irev already so what your point again?

In real-time....Dummy!

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by dyera(m): 2:49pm On Mar 02, 2023
ppogba:



Does that invalidate the results collated at the units and wards which were duly signed by all agents and INEC in the presence of voters?

That's is what I am saying na, if the results are not recorded and uploaded, then transmitted immediately in the presence of agents and voters, it will be possible for Inec officials to change the results.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Putindbutt: 2:50pm On Mar 02, 2023
floret23:
"When a thief boldly encourages you to go to court, just know that his elder brother is the chief judge" - East African proverb
The thief is more reasonable than you. If you don't want to go to court, go out in the street and start burning properties. When the same Obi lost in Anambra, where did he go to?.. was it not the same court?.. you guys that support Obi are a bunch of dunces

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by thegrinch(m): 2:51pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
Very Simple..


ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION is in the Electoral Act 2022..


100% true... but How long it can take or not is not in the electoral act.

So where results transmitted electronically from polling units ? Yes... Did they eventually get transmitted to the portal? Yes.

You could argue that it took 48 hours or more... But it can also be argued that due process was followed, and glitches in the system slowed the process.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Drealman20: 2:51pm On Mar 02, 2023
onuman:


The proclaimed winner had no spread either, because his results were mostly forged.
Imagine for example, Tinubu winning Rivers state. Rivers people are up in arms against the robbery of election in their state. We must not allow Buhari cabal that wants to continue in office through Shettima as effective president with aged and sickly Tinubu as figure head president, to set fire on Nigeria.
Oga shut up.. Remove 3 states, Tinubu stil won

He won 25% in over 29 States
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Putindbutt: 2:52pm On Mar 02, 2023
onuman:


The proclaimed winner had no spread either, because his results were mostly forged.
Imagine for example, Tinubu winning Rivers state. Rivers people are up in arms against the robbery of election in their state. We must not allow Buhari cabal that wants to continue in office through Shettima as effective president with aged and sickly Tinubu as figure head president, to set fire on Nigeria.
floret23:
Election Results for Rivers State found in the bush by a student https://www.facebook.com/100063685721359/posts/pfbid02Ddh1KzVKDH47naaVCFtfzU4LaTweiou76t1GqjKqn7GFqVQ5zuN9VWyP7g74C8mtl/?app=fbl
Cancel the entire votes from Rivets, Obi would still not come second. As long as he will never win SW and North, he can never be President and he knows it too.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by floret23(f): 2:53pm On Mar 02, 2023
Putindbutt:

The thief is more reasonable than you. If you don't want to go to court, go out in the street and start burning properties. When the same Obi lost in Anambra, where did he go to?.. was it not the same court?.. you guys that support Obi are a bunch of dunces
Election Results for Rivers State found in the bush by a student https://www.facebook.com/100063685721359/posts/pfbid02Ddh1KzVKDH47naaVCFtfzU4LaTweiou76t1GqjKqn7GFqVQ5zuN9VWyP7g74C8mtl/?app=fbl
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Putindbutt: 2:53pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
What happened to “Read And Pass”.??
You are ill-informed. someone has to enlighten your ignorance.
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Voltron007(m): 2:54pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
The Electoral Act didn't say Manual Transmission Either..
So, nobody should go and assume what the Electoral Act didn't actually say .



Section-148 still comes into play.
There is an ambiguity in what you're saying here.
This is now a situation of “Either this or that.”...

Thus,, the Electoral Act gave the Commission the power to make laws through GUIDELINES AND MANUALS, in order to make ambiguous sections clearer..
Just one question: Since the Act already gave INEC the power to create guidelines for the elections. Is INEC not bound/liable to the guidelines they released to the general public?

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by ppogba: 2:56pm On Mar 02, 2023
dyera:


That's is what I am saying na, if the results are not recorded and uploaded, then transmitted immediately in the presence of agents and voters, it will be possible for Inec officials to change the results.

It's far easier to doctor a result uploaded ( this is the era of cloning etc in the technology space) than for INEC officials to change results that are in multiple copies given to various people.
Do you think aside the hard copies handed to the party agents, most of them do not have the results snapped with their phones?

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by mployer(m): 2:56pm On Mar 02, 2023
senatordave1:


It is simple.transmission can be manual or electronic.not transmitting it electronically does not invalidate the result.non transmission invalidates the results

You are dumb.
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by nnamdi640: 2:56pm On Mar 02, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
Don't always be emotional.


Read to understand first.
Lol. You can say what you want but be rest assured that the same constitution will be used against you guys. Thank God the number that voted against him was twice and more than those that voted for him despite that the election was rigged and that is a bad signal
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by floret23(f): 2:58pm On Mar 02, 2023
Putindbutt:

Cancel the entire votes from Rivets, Obi would still not come second. As long as he will never win SW and North, he can never be President and he knows it too.
With Obi's 10 million votes?
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 2:58pm On Mar 02, 2023
Racoon:
It is not debatable. The provisions are well spelt out.
They are now saying that the phrase: “Transmitted Directly from the Polling Units” means “Manual Transmission”.

So, why then did the Electoral Act describe another means in Section-62(1) and called it “Deliver same along with election materials, under security”??
..
..
(That is,, after the Electoral Act had already described the “Transfer of the results including total number of accredited voters and the results of the ballot...” which must happen immediately the votes are counted and announced in Section-60(5)..).??
..
So tell me... If Section-60(5) is the same thing as Section-62(1),, why were they described differently.??

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Putindbutt: 2:59pm On Mar 02, 2023
floret23:
With Obi's 10 million votes?
From which regions?
Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by depezee(m): 3:00pm On Mar 02, 2023
Parachoko:
I'm waiting to see if Obi and Atiku will choose to waste money going to the tribunal

You may call it a waste but if the records are set straight it becomes a tool for future legal reference and further help in correcting the error.

Stop reasoning like a fool.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by BluntCrazeMan: 3:01pm On Mar 02, 2023
nnamdi640:
Lol. You can say what you want but be rest assured that the same constitution will be used against you guys. Thank God the number that voted against him was twice and more than those that voted for him despite that the election was rigged and that is a bad signal



You said that the election was rigged??



Can you really really prove it beyond every reasonable doubts??

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by floret23(f): 3:01pm On Mar 02, 2023
Putindbutt:

From which regions?
From all regions according to independent collation reports.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Masterito(m): 3:01pm On Mar 02, 2023
INEC chairman openly said results will be transferred from the polling units through BVAS.
BluntCrazeMan:
I also hope that I have done justice to the INEC’s concepts of the “IREV-Portal” and that of the “CSRVS Collation System”..




**MODIFIED....

For Those That Are Saying One-or-Two Things About “MANUAL TRANSMISSION”....
(... Just because the phrase “Transmitted DIRECTLY From The Polling Units”, didn't have the word “Electronically” inserted inside it, nor had any form of technological innovation expressed in the phrase ...)

The truth is..
There is nothing like the so-called Manual Transmission mentioned inside the Electoral Act Either..
Thus, there is no need assuming it At-all..

In fact, the usage of the phrase in the Act and functions of the so-called “Transmission” best describes an “Electronic Transmission” more than it describes a “Manual Transmission”.



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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by dyera(m): 3:03pm On Mar 02, 2023
ppogba:


It's far easier to doctor a result uploaded ( this is the era of cloning etc in the technology space) than for INEC officials to change results that are in multiple copies given to various people.
Do you think aside the hard copies handed to the party agents, most of them do not have the results snapped with their phones?

Reason why the results are supposed to be transmitted immediately in the presence of the party agents and voters.

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by lexy2014: 3:05pm On Mar 02, 2023
ppogba:


It's far easier to doctor a result uploaded ( this is the era of cloning etc in the technology space) than for INEC officials to change results that are in multiple copies given to various people.
Do you think aside the hard copies handed to the party agents, most of them do not have the results snapped with their phones?

How will it be easier to doctor uploaded results?

Who is doing the doctoring?

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Re: What Exactly Did The Electoral-Act-2022 Say About The Election Results.?? by Putindbutt: 3:11pm On Mar 02, 2023
floret23:
From all regions according to independent collation reports.
So, Obi won SW and North according to ANAP coalition reports grin grin

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