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Prosperity Gospel Preachers (Pastor Chris ) Spread Peniaphobia- Fear Of Povertyl by Nobody: 3:08pm On Sep 15, 2011
In his DVD teaching ” Who is a Christian ” Pastor Chris Oyakhilome erroneously declares the following.

1. A Christian who suffers from diabetes does not know the truth and A Christian cannot fall sick
because he is born of God and not of blood when he is born gain – what about Timothy and Epaphroditus in Philippians were they not born again?

2.Satan has lost his power – yet Satan is the god of this world. It does not make him more powerful than God Almighty but he also has power.

3.Jesus defeated Satan in hell not at the cross—- but what do the Scriptures say for that is our final authority as believers ?

1.Ephesians 1:7 declares that Jesus made those who were far from God near to him by HIS BLOOD.

2.Colossians 1:13-14 declares that Jesus gave us believers redmption through HIS BLOOD


To nail this Prosperity Gospel Heresy of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome is Colossians 2:14 where it says that he spoiled principalities and powers triumphing over them in HIS CROSS.

This is why Paul declared solely that he will preach Christ crucified .He did not say he will preach Jesus in Hell, did he ?

Peter boldly declared that we have been redeemed with the precious blood of Jesus and not corruptible things such as gold. The blood of Jesus that was shed was for our redemption without which we would have been condemned.From his death we receive forgiveness of sins because sins separate us from God ,yet God does not want us, his creation to be separated from him. He wants us to be reconciled to him.

With all these scriptures that clearly declare where Jesus defeated the powers and principalities why do Pastors want to add to the scriptures simply because the Apostle’s Creed says that Jesus descended to hell. They actually MODIFY THE APOSTLES CREED by saying that Jesus descended to hell and defeated the devil yet the scriptures say this was done at the cross.

The issue is not about descent but about redemption from sin, because sin is the sting of death. Satan led man to sin but man has been redeemed by Jesus who shed his blood for us for life is in the blood and not in hell.

The Prosperity Preachers preach this doctrine because when people hear the word hell they know it is a place of suffering and weeping.

However the closest picture to hell is poverty. Yet most of the congregation are working class and thus should be taught how to share with one another.

The irony of Prosperity churches is that they despise poor saints yet they claim to break the spirit of poverty.

In fact the true gospel is about giving to the poor and sharing not hoarding riches for yourself and being grateful to God for that which you have as long as you have worked for it.



PENIAPHOBIA AND THE GROWTH OF THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL IN AFRICA

Many working class Africans come from poor/middle level backgrounds with a few who have been in well to do families. In fact poverty only became an extreme issue in the early 80s and 90s when the Oil crisis led to Economic Neo Colonization by the World Bank and IMF which created Extreme Capitalism in Africa. There are both stinking rich Africans and wallowing poor people .

One British anaylst analysed Kenya’s multi-national population and its relation to poverty and wealth as follows

‘ … very FEW Kenyan Whites (a minority population) are poor and some of them are very rich, some
Kenyan Asians are very poor and other Kenyan Asians are very rich;
but when it comes to black Kenyans who make up the majority of the population
MANY Black Kenyans are very poor but the richest Kenyan elite are Black Kenyans.

This grinding poverty has made many desperate and depressed especially the working poor. Thus prosperity Gospel came with promises of peace and riches and freedom from the hell of poverty( not sin and the devil) if one only gives their life to Jesus.

The more prosperity preaching the more poverty, the more the crime, the more the giving because the rich preachers of the churches get richer and the poor givers get poorer for giving more but receiving less hence more poverty.

The Prosperity Gospel destroys the focus of the gospel by putting emphasis on getting rich quick since that means you are escaping hell on earth. Yet what the scriptures teach is that giving to the poor and SHARING AMONG BELIEVERS AND ALL MEN are the ways of dealing with grinding poverty as one ‘s heart desires holiness and righteousness and love not greed and jealousy.

Moreover this get rich scheme comes with a cost called tithe an Old Covenant command,  you must bribe God for him to bless you and make you rich like Abraham. However we are in the New Covenant and the Levitical Law is inapplicable …we are to give and not tithe and the giving is for the ministry of the saints not building big castles falsely called churches.

Jesus died for your sins to be forgiven and not for you to drive 3 cars and live in 2 mansions when your brother has lost his job and has no food to eat. Look at the stats and see where Prosperity Gospel thrives, Poverty thrives the more. Prosperity Gospel fuels Greed and not the Love of God.

The Salvation In Hell teaching is bent at making Christians believe that all suffering Christians are not really born again when actually that is a lie. When poverty is feared like that ,you feel sorry for those who live in it for they face stigmatization and condemnation when it is the rich elite that manipulate the world ‘s economies hence punishing the poor.

This teaching insults the blood of Jesus thinking that redemption is found in the money seed one sent to TBN or to their pastor. Falsehood and dear Christian turn away from the Prosperity teachers that are teaching these lies.

Thus what Pastor Chris is preaching is false gospel that works to enrich himself by lying to you that you will be promoted and live stress free and have no disease because Jesus went to hell and defeated Satan. Jesus defeated Satan at the cross by shedding his blood for your sins that you may have access to God and life everlasting.


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a typical Kenyan mansion- Many Christians have been blinded to desire and think about mansions than holiness
Re: Prosperity Gospel Preachers (Pastor Chris ) Spread Peniaphobia- Fear Of Povertyl by Nobody: 1:58pm On Sep 17, 2011
Still waiting for Christ Embassy worshipers and their Nairaland leader Joagbaje to comment !!
Re: Prosperity Gospel Preachers (Pastor Chris ) Spread Peniaphobia- Fear Of Povertyl by Joagbaje(m): 2:38pm On Sep 17, 2011
It is wiser to Ask questions instead of spewing ignorance.
Re: Prosperity Gospel Preachers (Pastor Chris ) Spread Peniaphobia- Fear Of Povertyl by Greenslim: 3:08pm On Sep 17, 2011
pastor chris is always the problem. Get life
Re: Prosperity Gospel Preachers (Pastor Chris ) Spread Peniaphobia- Fear Of Povertyl by AntiPastChris(m): 1:11am On Apr 17, 2012
this is just what jesus was talking about there will come wolfs in amoung the flock to devour them this is pastor chris for sure is a wolf
Re: Prosperity Gospel Preachers (Pastor Chris ) Spread Peniaphobia- Fear Of Povertyl by ProPastorChris(m): 9:35am On Apr 17, 2012
@ original OP

from your talk and analysis, it is evident that you are ignorant of so many things scripturally as stated here:

KJV:
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


Bible in Basic English:
2Pe 3:15 And be certain that the long waiting of the Lord is for salvation; even as our brother Paul has said in his letters to you, from the wisdom which was given to him;
2Pe 3:16 And as he said in all his letters, which had to do with these things; in which are some hard sayings, so that, like the rest of the holy Writings, they are twisted by those who are uncertain and without knowledge, to the destruction of their souls.


Contemporary English Version:
2Pe 3:15 Don't forget that the Lord is patient because he wants people to be saved. This is also what our dear friend Paul said when he wrote you with the wisdom that God had given him.
2Pe 3:16 Paul talks about these same things in all his letters, but part of what he says is hard to understand. Some ignorant and unsteady people even destroy themselves by twisting what he said. They do the same thing with other Scriptures too.


If you do not understand whatever he teaches i think your wisdom lies in making enough inquiries instead of attacking him on forums such as this.

i have a question for you: are you poor? do you know what it means to be poor? can you allow your children or family to remain poor even when you have the power to bring them out of poverty?

NB: whatever you fear in this life will rule you.

Thus prosperity Gospel came with promises of peace and riches and freedom from the hell of poverty( not sin and the devil) if one only gives their life to Jesus.

you have misconstrued the true meaning of prosperity. you need to listen again to the message and many others.

The more prosperity preaching the more poverty, the more the crime, the more the giving because the rich preachers of the churches get richer and the poor givers get poorer for giving more but receiving less hence more poverty.

the rich preachers get richer cos they understand the principle of giving but you can never give to God and remain poor. if the poor gives, he can never remain poor

Luk 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom.

The Prosperity Gospel destroys the focus of the gospel by putting emphasis on getting rich quick since that means you are escaping hell on earth.
you have mixed up a lot of things cos you have allowed your sentiment to cloud your sense of judgment.
this so called "prosperity" gospel is the gospel Jesus brought to us, unless you are ignorant of the gospel.


Yet what the scriptures teach is that giving to the poor and SHARING AMONG BELIEVERS AND ALL MEN are the ways of dealing with grinding poverty
2Co 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

the scriptural way to deal with poverty is the Word in your spirit so that the verse above can become real to you. giving to the poor may help to an extent but the lasting solution is the Word of God you have accepted into your spirit which you can use to produce for yourself and others at any time.


Moreover this get rich scheme comes with a cost called tithe an Old Covenant command, you must bribe God for him to bless you and make you rich like Abraham
and you think with all your "vast" knowledge of the scripture that you can actually bribe God? who do you think we are talking about here? God?!?!!

However we are in the New Covenant and the Levitical Law is inapplicable …we are to give and not tithe and the giving is for the ministry of the saints not building big castles falsely called churches.
i have had enough of this tithing stuff on this forum and i ceased from talking about it. if you think it is wrong, please stop paying your tithe but i will continue paying my tithes and firstfruit and will not stop helping people around me.
if the church buildings have now become a problem to you, i hope the church you attend is in the open and that you guys sit on the floor. or you may start your own ministry and run it just this way. having a beautiful church building is not a crime cos our God is big enough to provide and foot the bills, maybe yours is broke?

The Salvation In Hell teaching is bent at making Christians believe that all suffering Christians are not really born again when actually that is a lie.
it either you are born again or not, there is nothing like not really born again.

This teaching insults the blood of Jesus thinking that redemption is found in the money seed one sent to TBN or to their pastor.
redemption is only possible by the blood not money. but your donations to the kingdom work can equally pave way to your salvation: Acts 10: 1-end


Thus what Pastor Chris is preaching is false gospel that works to enrich himself by lying to you that you will be promoted and live stress free and have no disease because Jesus went to hell and defeated Satan.
your ignorance is at play again here bros. your spiritual level is that of "omomo" and its very pathetic. you are one of the christians that think the only thing Jesus died for was to take us to heaven; what a thinking you got there bro! religion has blindfolded you.

1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
Re: Prosperity Gospel Preachers (Pastor Chris ) Spread Peniaphobia- Fear Of Povertyl by Kay17: 11:56am On Apr 17, 2012
Whoever lifts that mountain with faith is who I will follow.
Re: Prosperity Gospel Preachers (Pastor Chris ) Spread Peniaphobia- Fear Of Povertyl by Faithworld1(m): 9:35am On Oct 14, 2021
I believe this will help someone on the matter of Prosperity gospel.
https://www.josephedembassey.com/2021/10/preaching-prosperity-to-prosperity-preachers.html

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