oyatz:



When you make 25% in FCT compulsory, then the votes in FCT is automatically superior to other votes.

Look at the likely scenario you will create

*All candidates will make getting maximal votes in the FCT a do or die affairs

*Many candidates will urge people from their ethnic groups to transfer their polling units from several States to the FCT which will become chaotic

* All candidates will concentrate on the FCT: with all kinds of intimidation, rigging and this will lead to violence.


There is no country where such compulsory 25% in FCT is required to win presidential election

That's not the point..

The constitution didn't say it is mandatory to win FCT..
Just get a certain 25% of the votes...
Buhari lost fct but got the required 25% amount...
Obasanjo, GEJ all met the 25%
Why should Tinubu be different?

oyatz:


The Judgement the OP posted said the FCT should be treated as if it were one of the States. The constitution also stipulate this

Exactly, that's the point...
If it is treated as a state the president should be treated (act) as the governor...
Hence, the 25% in FCT

Omowale2023:

I have a question for you to answer.

Question 1;
You need credits in 4 subjects and English language.
What does it mean?

Question 2;
There are 36 mangoes and 1 Apple in a bowl, I told you to give me 24 Mangoes and 1 Apple from the same bowl.
What does that mean?

Do I look like a primary school student to you? Go learn how to comprehend first before trying to interpret what you don't know.

SpatialKing:


Exactly, that's the point...
If it is treated as a state the president should be treated (act) as the governor...
Hence, the 25% in FCT

Are you sure you are ok

SpatialKing:


Exactly, that's the point...
If it is treated as a state the president should be treated (act) as the governor...
Hence, the 25% in FCT

*You need to win a State as a Governor, not 25% in the State.

*Do Senators and Reps also need to contest in the FCT, since they make Laws for the FCT?

SpatialKing:



That's not the point..

The constitution didn't say it is mandatory to win FCT..
Just get a certain 25% of the votes...
Buhari lost fct but got the required 25% amount...
Obasanjo, GEJ all met the 25%
Why should Tinubu be different?

The constitution did NOT say get ' 25% IN the FCT'

It is the mischievous supporters of Peter Obi that are inputting wrong notions into what is not there.

Nigeria is a FEDERATION of 36 States and FCT.

garfield1:


You are reading it myopically and narrowly.that section has ordered us to treat the fct as a state in all matters.seeing the president as the governor is just a stop gap measure and for administrative purpose.he is to act as gov because they dont have a gov in the real sense.if you say the president is gov,then he must not just have 25% in fct,he must win there just like a governor must win his state.the national assembly members too must also be required to contest elections in abuja since they are the fct lawmakers going by your analogy.it doesbt make sense.if you read the post of the op,the judges clearly said when there is ambiguity in any statute,they will pick a construction that makes more sense.
Universally,all votes are equal.the votes of fct is same as the other states.the court will never elevate the votes of fct above any other state.buhari vote and mine is equal

What do you need governor for in FCT when you have minister of FCT?

Larryton:








What do you need governor for in FCT when you have minister of FCT?

Orr

oyatz:


The constitution did NOT say get ' 25% IN the FCT'

It is the mischievous supporters of Peter Obi that are inputting wrong notions into what is not there.

Nigeria is a FEDERATION of 36 States and FCT.

Why not 37 states?

Omowale2023:

I have a question for you to answer.

Question 1;
You need credits in 4 subjects and English language.
What does it mean?

English language can be one of the subjects too.
So having English, Mathematics, Physics, and Chemistry (for example) satisfies this requirement!
Unless it is stated that you need credits in 5 Subjects and English Language is compulsory!

Question 2;
There are 36 mangoes and 1 Apple in a bowl, I told you to give me 24 Mangoes and 1 Apple from the same bowl.
What does that mean?

This means 24 Mangoes and 1 Apple.
An Apple and a Mango are different types of fruit.

How are these related to Nigeria, Abuja and other states?

SpatialKing:


The constitution didn't say FCT is special..

So how is it a must to differentiate FCT from other states in terms of votes?

A vote in Abuja is same as a vote anywhere else!

So why does any president need win Abuja again?

Draslo:
So by your logic, getting 100% of votes in FCT guarantees you a seat in Aso Rock? Lol. As far as elections are concerned FCT will be deemed a state and will be treated as onw

Chief Justice of the federation has spoken. Yeye

SpatialKing:


Why not 37 states?

Because Nigeria is made up of 36 States and the FCT.

States are Federation Units, the FCT is not.

The essence of the 25% in two thirds of the whole of Nigeria is to ensure 'spread' or broad based support across most parts of Nigeria so that a particular ethnic group or Geo-political zone with high population will not be lording itself over the rest of Nigeria, so you need support of people in two thirds of the country.


Now, the FCT is populated by people who are Gov't workers or have certain things to do with Gov't or Representatives of Foreign Countries , domiciled in the FCT. There is nothing special about the votes of the FCT that make it superior to votes of other Nigerians in the determination of who should be the President.

AntiChristian:


So how is it a must to differentiate FCT from other states in terms of votes?

A vote in Abuja is same as a vote anywhere else!

So why does any president need win Abuja again?

Yeah,

That's why is clearly written AND FCT
Is not mandatory to win FCT
But is mandatory to get 25% in fxy

SpatialKing:


Yeah,

That's why is clearly written AND FCT
Is not mandatory to win FCT
But is mandatory to get 25% in fxy

Nigeria is always written as having 36 states and FCT!

It does not mean anything more than that as regards voting!

AntiChristian:


Nigeria is always written as having 36 states and FCT!

It does not mean anything more than that as regards voting!

It does...
Since constitution permits that
How come we don't have or say 36 states governors and FCT governor?

Think about it

oyatz:


Because Nigeria is made up of 36 States and the FCT.

States are Federation Units, the FCT is not.

The essence of the 25% in two thirds of the whole of Nigeria is to ensure 'spread' or broad based support across most parts of Nigeria so that a particular ethnic group or Geo-political zone with high population will not be lording itself over the rest of Nigeria, so you need support of people in two thirds of the country.


Now, the FCT is populated by people who are Gov't workers or have certain things to do with Gov't or Representatives of Foreign Countries , domiciled in the FCT. There is nothing special about the votes of the FCT that make it superior to votes of other Nigerians in the determination of who should be the President.

Why is FCT not a Federation Units,

Why do we say 36 states governors and not

36 states governors and FCT governor

[quote author=Draslo post=122957913]So by your logic, getting 100% of votes in FCT guarantees you a seat in Aso Rock? Lol. As far as elections are concerned FCT will be deemed a state and will be treated as onw[/quote


They will deemed it as state...so FCT has an elected governor or an appointed Minister?

AntiChristian:


So how is it a must to differentiate FCT from other states in terms of votes?

A vote in Abuja is same as a vote anywhere else!

So why does any president need win Abuja again?

Yes, is same
A president does need to win FCT
But is clearly written just get 25%..........AND FCT

Thats alll

Other candidates before Tinubu met that simple criteria why was it difficult for APC and Tinubu...

SpatialKing:


Yes, is same
A president does need to win FCT
But is clearly written just get 25%..........AND FCT

Thats alll

Other candidates before Tinubu met that simple criteria why was it difficult for APC and Tinubu...

k

SpatialKing:


It does...
Since constitution permits that
How come we don't have or say 36 states governors and FCT governor?

Think about it

FCT can't house the President and a Governor!
The President is the number 1 Citizen in Nigeria.
The Governor is the number 1 Citizen in any state.
Hence the President appoints a minister who acts like a Governor in this regards!
For Example, the Minister of the FCT with the Governors of the 36 states and CBN Governor attended NEC meetings!

AntiChristian:


FCT can't house the President and a Governor!
The President is the number 1 Citizen in Nigeria.
The Governor is the number 1 Citizen in any state.
Hence the President appoints a minister who acts like a Governor in this regards!
For Example, the Minister of the FCT with the Governors of the 36 states and CBN Governor attended NEC meetings!

So are admitting that FCT is unique?

Yes is not special...

SpatialKing:


How can you deem FCT a state because of Elections?

If you say FCT is a state then who is their governor?

Read section 299 of the Constitution. People just argue like illiterate in a beer shop.

Section 299 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria

The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation; and accordingly -

(a) all the legislative powers, the executive powers and the judicial powers vested in the House of Assembly, the Governor of a State and in the courts of a State shall, respectively, vest in the National Assembly, the President of the Federation and in the courts which by virtue of the foregoing provisions are courts established for the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(b) all the powers referred to in paragraph (a) of this section shall be exercised in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution; and

(c) the provisions of this Constitution pertaining to the matters aforesaid shall be read with such modifications and adaptations as may be reasonably necessary to bring them into conformity with the provisions of this section.
More: https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-299

SpatialKing:


Yeah,

That's why is clearly written AND FCT
Is not mandatory to win FCT
But is mandatory to get 25% in fxy

Section 299 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria

The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation; and accordingly -

(a) all the legislative powers, the executive powers and the judicial powers vested in the House of Assembly, the Governor of a State and in the courts of a State shall, respectively, vest in the National Assembly, the President of the Federation and in the courts which by virtue of the foregoing provisions are courts established for the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(b) all the powers referred to in paragraph (a) of this section shall be exercised in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution; and

(c) the provisions of this Constitution pertaining to the matters aforesaid shall be read with such modifications and adaptations as may be reasonably necessary to bring them into conformity with the provisions of this section.
More: https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-299

SpatialKing:


So are admitting that FCT is unique?

Yes is not special...

Yet the minister is attending meetings as a Governor?

Nwaelohim:


Section 299 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria

The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation; and accordingly -

(a) all the legislative powers, the executive powers and the judicial powers vested in the House of Assembly, the Governor of a State and in the courts of a State shall, respectively, vest in the National Assembly, the President of the Federation and in the courts which by virtue of the foregoing provisions are courts established for the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(b) all the powers referred to in paragraph (a) of this section shall be exercised in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution; and

(c) the provisions of this Constitution pertaining to the matters aforesaid shall be read with such modifications and adaptations as may be reasonably necessary to bring them into conformity with the provisions of this section.
More: https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-299

This only affirms tha FCT is unique from other states in Nigeria

Draslo:
So by your logic, getting 100% of votes in FCT guarantees you a seat in Aso Rock? Lol. As far as elections are concerned FCT will be deemed a state and will be treated as onw

The judges made a mistake abi