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Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by IJEYdiamond(f): 11:39pm On Jul 09, 2023
BigDawsNet:
Not everyone will study to become medical practitioner..

You can aswell migrate to Canada with your tech skills...

You can learn a teach today and you don't even need a college degree or masters to be a pro at a particular tech program...

Learn today! and you can start making very big income here in Northern America or the EU

Abeg mention oooo... heard of Normad...
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by famology(m): 11:46pm On Jul 09, 2023
PublicHealthNig:


Source: https://www.publichealth.com.ng/canada-joins-us-changes-rules-for-nigerian-doctors-others-to-practice/



Your title is misleading. Nova Scotia is just a province. It doesn't represent the entire Canada.

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Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Gajagojo: 11:51pm On Jul 09, 2023
HBB1:


Alaye, you don't need to be triggered.

Why have you resorted to insults?
Am I the cause of your frustrations?
🤣

The hardest Specialties here-- top Specialties, usually have Drs of Indian origin.
( counting the countries that split from them also)

That is how it has now become, because Oyinbo no wan wahala himself again.

If you read my post and not just jumped to conclusion you would have noted I said 'top.'

I have worked in many Hospitals, so I know whatsup.

Check the Consultant lists for the juiciest specialties e.g. Surgery, Orthopaedics, Ophthalmology, Radiology, Vascular Surgery, Cardiology, Gastro etc. in most Hospitals; you will see their names there.

If is not them, it would be an older white Dr, as the younger ones don't want to stress themselves anymore.

If you choose to argue otherwise, I will leave you to your folly.

...and it will be quite silly to say you cannot credit India for the successes of their Children abroad.

Do they stop being Indian, because they left their countries?

Do the Jews stop being Jews or the Nigerians stop being Nigerians.

They are like a cult here, reason they have done well for themselves-- and they don't discard their values.

They will marry Indian spouses and raise more indian kids.

Besides India is supposed to be the 5th largest economy in the world and you think some people would not have cornered healthcare.

Or why are Nigerians running there for the unafordable western healthcare?

Your point on Leprosy is baseless.

China also has horrible cases of communicable diseases, but does that discredit everything else about them.


Tell you what, a Nigerian Doctor in the US recently donated 1M dollars to UCH.

Would he do that, if he felt they didnt contribute to his training?

...and I will repeat, some foreign trained Doctors go back home-- to India, Nigeria or wherever.

...and they are earning big bucks.



Insult?

Who did I insult?
Where?
How?

You talk too much

Your biography is unnecessary

The information about doctor origin i..e Where they got their first degree is in the public domain
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by HBB1(m): 11:55pm On Jul 09, 2023
Gajagojo:


Insult?

Whndid I insult?
Where?
How?

Well, if you read what you wrote again, you will see that.

There is no use hurling words like stupid.

So...

Whatever rocks your boat...

Rishi Sunak is still Prime Minister sha.
grin
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Raskimonojendor: 12:02am On Jul 10, 2023
Topic title is misleading. This is for Nova Scotia and not Canada. In addition, Saskatchewan has a similar program for the last 7 years or so.

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Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Gajagojo: 12:05am On Jul 10, 2023
HBB1:


Well, if you read what you wrote again, you will see that.

There is no use hurling words like stupid.

So...

Whatever rocks your boat...

Rishi Sunak is still Prime Minister sha.
grin

I can use stupid or any other word if I like

Did I call YOU stupid?You

The issue is the claim that

MOST specialist doctors in the UK are Indian

That is a lie

So telling us you work in the UK as if that will somehow make it true is not sensible
There are over 1000 hospitals in the UK no one can tell us based on
"I have worked in many hospitals" how many specialists are Indian
This is a very well researched subject even by Parliament with plenty of information in the public domain.
You are too anxious to talk about yourself.

That is what is unnecessary
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by CSTRR: 12:05am On Jul 10, 2023
pol23:

I believe people in this category are actually practicing in Nigeria because they actually want to stay.
They’re not part of the people seeking to relocate as they’re consultants and practice everywhere around the world… I have an uncle like that who just dash to the US and dash out….

I want to assume they don’t belong in the category of people who’re trying to leave the country.
These people are targeting resident doctors and that is crazy

Most of the doctors you would meet in the hospital consulting room are residents.

They are not consultants yet, but they are very experienced.
Far more experienced than fresh graduates.

They are supposed to be the pool that future consultants would be made from.

And those are the people that US, Canada, Saudi Arabia, UKand Australia are targeting.

They are stealing Nigeria's future consultants for peanuts.

Who takes over when the current aged consultants are retired or late?
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by CodeTemplar: 12:13am On Jul 10, 2023
The same way we crave FDI ,albeit, ignorantly is how they push for what they lack. It is called demand and supply with pricing as an intermediate force. Next time, govt of African countries should be liberal and train more doctors since they have lots of capable and bendable minds at disposal. All these cry of "they are poaciing our doctors" since will change nothing.
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Sleekfingers: 12:14am On Jul 10, 2023
Sultty:
are u comfortable in Nigeria


I am comfortable.
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by HBB1(m): 12:20am On Jul 10, 2023
Gajagojo:


I can use stupid or any other word if I like

Did I call YOU stupid?You

The issue is the claim that

MOST specialist doctors in the UK are Indian

That is a lie

So telling us you work in the UK as if that will somehow make it true is not sensible
This is a very well researched subject even by Parliament with plenty of information in the public domain.
You are too anxious to talk about yourself.

That is what is unnecessary

Can you read at all?

I said 'top' specialists

Why are you so triggered?
Who offended you.

If I say a few unidentifiable things about my self, have I commited a crime?

Would you have been annoyed if I said I was a cleaner?

So, back to what I was saying...

Specialties are incomparable and everyone knows it
(Or maybe you don't).

In the UK, the top specialties, the hardest ones to do and get into are filled by Drs of Indian origin.


That reality will still stare me in the face tomorrow.

They are everywhere and doing very well for themselves.

If you don't agree, it is fine.

Happy?

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Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by BigIyanga: 12:29am On Jul 10, 2023
NtoAkwaIbom:
We expect Nigeria to subsidize medical school n other courses only for them to go work abroad.

We subsidize fuel for African countries and subsidize professional courses, only for them to run abroad and practice,


WHAT DO WE GET AS NIGERIANS IN RETURN ?

CUBA was suffering the same thing, where it subsidizeed to train the best medical doctors, only for Dem to run abroad, thus it made compulsory national service for all doctors... Same should be adopted here... If you don't like, go to private university
E pain you o in Davido’s voice.. lol. Jamb is still accepting candidate for medicine. Go and write . Good luck
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Gajagojo: 12:29am On Jul 10, 2023
HBB1:


Can you read at all?

I said 'top' specialists

Why are you so triggered?
Who offended you.

If I say a few unidentifiable things about my self, have I commited a crime?

Would you have been annoyed if I said I was a cleaner?

So, back to what I was saying...

Specialties are incomparable and everyone knows it
(Or maybe you don't).

In the UK, the top specialties, the hardest ones to do and get into are filled by Drs of Indian origin.


That reality will still stare me in the face tomorrow.

They are everywhere and doing very well for themselves.

If you don't agree, it is fine.

Happy?

Any blockhead can pull out baseless data from their ass and try to pass them off as reality.

Claims need a source and data to have meaning

Whether you call it top or juicy
That is a construct that has meaning only to you
Even at that you still need numbers and a source
Not your personal conviction
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by cococandy(f): 12:35am On Jul 10, 2023
😑 the things I read on this forum
AntiZikist:
Ten years ago,the average MD earned over $1mil annually.

But since the greedy small hat tribesmen took over the Medical sector, they lobbied the govt to open borders to cheaper and far less qualified MDs from the third world whose residency in the US was tied to their job employer.

This has seen many qualified and conceintious western trained doctors resigning and going into private practice.

Covid 19 exposed the rot in western medicine as most doctors employed in small hat owned hospital firms daring not to raise any objection to the unscientific protocols set by the small hate controlled CDC that promoted the small hate vaccine produced by small hat pharmaceutical companies.

The small hat mafia wants to replace professional doctors with third world pliable doctors.

This should tell us that the small hate tribesmen are about to pull another Covid and are set to get rid of the few dissident doctors for drone third world doctors who dare not question their ongoing genocide ...
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by HBB1(m): 12:38am On Jul 10, 2023
Gajagojo:


Any blockhead can pull out baseless data from their ass and try to pass them off as reality.

Claims need a source and data to have meaning

Whether you call it top or juicy
That is a construct that has meaning only to you
Even at that you still need numbers and a source
Not your personal conviction



And you have those Numbers from Nigeria?

Top specialty only has meaning to me?

Guy!
Stop embarassing yourself.

Specialties have competition ratios, by that you know the top ones.

Neurosurgery would have a higher ratio than say Family Medicine.

Do you understand?
Or you still don't?

If you don't, I can't help you.
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Gajagojo: 12:50am On Jul 10, 2023
HBB1:



And you have those Numbers from Nigeria?

Top specialty only has meaning to me?

Guy!
Stop embarassing yourself.

Specialties have competition ratios, by that you know the top ones.

Neurosurgery would have a higher ratio than say Family Medicine.

Do you understand?
Or you still don't?

If you don't, I can't help you.




You made a claim that

Most of the top specialists in the
UK Are Indian

So you must have the following

1. How many tops specialists are there in the UK
2. How many are Indians
3. A source

If you don't have This then you are talking nonsense


The only evidence you have is your biographical claims
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by HBB1(m): 1:10am On Jul 10, 2023
Gajagojo:


You made a claim that

Most of the top specialists in the
UK Are Indian

So you must have the following

1. How many tops specialists are there in the UK
2. How many are Indians
3. A source

If you don't have This then you are talking nonsense


The only evidence you have is your biographical claims

...and what numbers do you have to dispute this?
The ones you thought-up in your unhappy sitting-room?

Your rants are silly.

When you do a survey, will you use the total number of individuals in say a country or a sample size.

Or if they say 5% of Nigerians have HIV, it means 200 million Nigerians were tested and only 10million of them had the Virus.

You go school so?

Or you think there is a document saying top specialists in the UK and their origin?

Is it not something you will see for yourself when you are in the system.

Be reasonable oga.

Better still, travel and expose yourself.

You know what, na me cause am.

I should have ignored your frustrated rants to start with.
Whatever you believe is fine...

It does not take anything away from these people.
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by BigDawsNet: 1:40am On Jul 10, 2023
samtoles:


Sadly, only 1% of people willing to go into tech have the brain capacity to carry it. Una go dey shout tech tech upandown. You think say na beans? Ordinary HTML some of una no fit assimlate

If its heard to learn programming why don't you go for UI/UX designer
Graphics
Cyber-security
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by BigDawsNet: 1:41am On Jul 10, 2023
IJEYdiamond:


Abeg mention oooo... heard of Normad...

Cybersecurity
image of Data science
towardsdatascience.com
Data science
Cloud computing
Data analysis
Software engineering
Network Engineer
Software Developer
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by BigDawsNet: 1:41am On Jul 10, 2023
Allisgud:
what kind of tech skill can I learn that is relevant over their

Cybersecurity
image of Data science
towardsdatascience.com
Data science
Cloud computing
Data analysis
Software engineering
Network Engineer
Software Developer

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Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by BigDawsNet: 1:41am On Jul 10, 2023
graced21:
example of tech skills to learn

Cybersecurity
image of Data science
towardsdatascience.com
Data science
Cloud computing
Data analysis
Software engineering
Network Engineer
Software Developer

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Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by BigDawsNet: 1:43am On Jul 10, 2023
Skyrose:
Thanks sir but can you mentor me and I will be reporting to you for accountability sake please

Not really bro..

We hav different time zone.. May be too late to reply
Likewise super busy with projects here..

I think it's better you enroll for offline class.. so you can be supervised very well
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Gajagojo: 2:41am On Jul 10, 2023
HBB1:


...and what numbers do you have to dispute this?
The ones you thought-up in your unhappy sitting-room?

Your rants are silly.

When you do a survey, will you use the total number of individuals in say a country or a sample size.

Or if they say 5% of Nigerians have HIV, it means 200 million Nigerians were tested and only 10million of them had the Virus.

You go school so?

Or you think there is a document saying top specialists in the UK and their origin?

Is it not something you will see for yourself when you are in the system.

Be reasonable oga.

Better still, travel and expose yourself.

You know what, na me cause am.

I should have ignored your frustrated rants to start with.
Whatever you believe is fine...

It does not take anything away from these people.
You think because you have been washing bottoms in different hospitals you are now an expert on the NHS?
You are the one that manufactured the term
Top specialist

I don't have to have any numbers
Presumably you went to school and did elementary logic
He who asserts must prove
The onus is on you I don't have to disprove anything

If you come out and say a UFO landed in your garden last night it would be stupid to ask me to prove that did not happen when I ask you to prove it did

You talk now like a fool asking me to travel and expose myself?
Do you know where I am?

I am.just not immature like you talking foolishly about my biography

There is no need to talk about stupid surveys when the Generall medical council already have the information
Parliament have the information and it is not secret

That data has been collected,analysed regularly and studies published as far back as 2001

So yes there is data about where every doctor in the UK practising today got their first degree and what they are doing now
What is not there is

Top specialist
because it has no meaning

You just made that up
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Winnin009: 3:38am On Jul 10, 2023
dyera:


Your ancestors that were dragged abroad with chains will be turning in their grave because of what you are saying.

Don’t forget how those ancestors got into chains in the first place.
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Winnin009: 3:51am On Jul 10, 2023
hansomb:
Don't let money becloud your judgement. Your families will suffer the consequences which in turn makes your money useless. And they can change the policy and deport you anytime.

Which families are suffering what consequences?

Is it the ones in Canada with the doctors that now have access to some of the best amenities the world has to offer or the ones back home that are receiving the Canadian dollars being remitted?
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by kurupt1: 4:00am On Jul 10, 2023
NtoAkwaIbom:
We expect Nigeria to subsidize medical school n other courses only for them to go work abroad.

We subsidize fuel for African countries and subsidize professional courses, only for them to run abroad and practice,


WHAT DO WE GET AS NIGERIANS IN RETURN ?

CUBA was suffering the same thing, where it subsidizeed to train the best medical doctors, only for Dem to run abroad, thus it made compulsory national service for all doctors... Same should be adopted here... If you don't like, go to private university

When I hear people like u talk I get worried. What was actually subsidized for medical students? Is it the broken down Federal universities that they paid full tuition and hostel bills? With no infrastructure on ground? And terrible salaries when they graduate?

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Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by drafrican: 5:46am On Jul 10, 2023
NtoAkwaIbom:
We expect Nigeria to subsidize medical school n other courses only for them to go work abroad.

We subsidize fuel for African countries and subsidize professional courses, only for them to run abroad and practice,


WHAT DO WE GET AS NIGERIANS IN RETURN ?

CUBA was suffering the same thing, where it subsidizeed to train the best medical doctors, only for Dem to run abroad, thus it made compulsory national service for all doctors... Same should be adopted here... If you don't like, go to private university

My dear it cannot work except it applies to every graduate as that would equate to modern day slavery.

Secondly have you thought of the wages of Drs and the conditions under which they work.

How many medical officers own cars, how many live in reasonable housing, how many can send their kids to good schools, how many are able to buy a house before retirement.

People like you will still call on the phone and ask for free consultation “Paul ur son has fever and catered what can he use”

Hospitals no longer have Drs, no Drs available for employment and sadly they are not being replaced, we are doing four times the work, Seychelles pays $3000 a month medical officers earn 150,000-180,000 a month transportation alone is about 50-60k.

The school fees of zoologists and computer scientists as well as yoruba graduates was subsidized so also make them sign to serve Nigeria.

Yeye dey smell, better locate the babalawo around your house or face the reality that if you do not ratify medical workers salary (. Drs ,nurses, pharmacists, lab scientists and radiographers) we will continue to leave until you need to travel to ghana to have your appendix removed cos the waiting list will be 2 years!!!

My kids also deserve to go to Harvard like the politicians kids, I deserve to live in ikoyi too cos outside nigeria Drs are in the high economic earning bracket, in Nigeria they live above the poverty line, google how much Gabon and even s,Leone pays, meanwhile all dr in Lagos are either living in iyana ipaja ,ikorodu!

My friend left 2 years ago for USA Today he owns a 3 bedrooom in an estate in yaba and has just made down payment for his house in USA, he is married to a dr.

With ungrateful people like you I will definately JAKPA break your head if u like!!!! Express entry straight to uk, usa , Canada, australia to name a few!!!!
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Skyrose: 6:14am On Jul 10, 2023
BigDawsNet:


Not really bro..

We hav different time zone.. May be too late to reply
Likewise super busy with projects here..

I think it's better you enroll for offline class.. so you can be supervised very well
Not a bro though but thanks for the response I appreciate

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Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Teymanhenry(f): 6:24am On Jul 10, 2023
Countries that know what they are doing. Here one house of Assembly member with a poor SSCE certificate will be valued more than a lecturer and a doctor. Rubbish
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by Earthquakes: 6:31am On Jul 10, 2023
BigDawsNet:
Not everyone will study to become medical practitioner..

You can aswell migrate to Canada with your tech skills...

You can learn a teach today and you don't even need a college degree or masters to be a pro at a particular tech program...

Learn today! and you can start making very big income here in Northern America or the EU

With your degree how will you meet eligibility?
I am CCIE yet I needed MSc to meet cut off for permanent residency. You don't need degree for job but you may need it to meet other requirements.
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by kenodrill: 6:41am On Jul 10, 2023
BigDawsNet:
Not everyone will study to become medical practitioner..

You can aswell migrate to Canada with your tech skills...

You can learn a teach today and you don't even need a college degree or masters to be a pro at a particular tech program...

Learn today! and you can start making very big income here in Northern America or the EU
. Nice one sir.please can you recommend any tech skill for me.thanks God bless!
Re: Canada Joins US, Changes Rules For Nigerian Doctors, Others To Practice by OlawaleBammie: 7:04am On Jul 10, 2023
BigDawsNet:
Not everyone will study to become medical practitioner..

You can aswell migrate to Canada with your tech skills...

You can learn a teach today and you don't even need a college degree or masters to be a pro at a particular tech program...

Learn today! and you can start making very big income here in Northern America or the EU
Bro what is the criteria for the entry level in software engineering in canada.??

Pls reply me

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