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Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by divine2043(m): 7:38pm On Oct 07, 2011
Goodness me. Is my English that bad? How have I discriminate against women in my post? Oh boy. I should try French then.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by Eben2: 8:58pm On Oct 07, 2011
@coogar,

am not surprised to see that your argument for indecent dressing could not be surported by any scriptural reference.

please note that God is not a respecter of persons. His standard cannot and would not be lower for anybody be u a nigerian or a european. 'nevertheless, the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, the Lord knoweth them that are His. And let everyone that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity' 2 Tim 2 :19.

a truly born-again child of God will and cannot dress anyhow because such will not be carnally minded cos a carnal mind will always see a spritual thing as senseless and unconfortable.

in fact, a true child of God will not feel confortable in an indecent dress. he sees his body as the temple of the most High God and must be kept holy, he will not do anything that will make his brother fall or prevent a non-believer from coming to the saving grace of God.

as for those that call those that speaks against indecent dressing in the house of God perverts, be saved and read your bible very well and u'll see that the bible admonishes those that are saved to flee all appearances of evil. are u now saying that people that fear God and want to keep thier salvation should run away from the church because of unsaved-dresssing-indecently? shocked shocked
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by kizito96(m): 10:30pm On Oct 07, 2011
Ushers should turn away indecent dressed ladies from entering the church
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by plappville(f): 11:50pm On Oct 07, 2011
This is a very important thread to me, i ve been seeing certain ladies in my church in this indecency manner of dressing in the church. Even the lady doing the translation has to face the truth, she always wear very short skirts as she will stand in the alter to translate for the pastor. I ve spoke to a sister one day it was too pronanced that i couldnt bear the pains in seeing things that could distroy the house of God and just keep shot and let the devil operates.
A fat sister wearing tight streche with a tshirt not hiding the shape is uncalled for.
After service i spoke to her about this mode of dressing, her reply was, "what about the translater with every time mili skirt" i told her, are u copying evil in the house of God? It went on like that.
I think it will be nice to call on this topic in churches. Some chriStians even wear tatoo, what is the difference btw u and a pagan?? I ve even find it a problem to see woman with trouser in church, but i cant help this during winter, i do put trouser to church or else one can die of cool. But it must be a woman made trouser not those streche jean. I prohibits it in church.
I wonder why fashion should even rings in our head. Truth no respect for God.
A day of job interview people will dress as decent as they can but when they come to worship God they dont give a care if welcome their look. Half neked in the chruch is tempting the brethdren.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by Theblessed(f): 12:50am On Oct 08, 2011
Every Christian man/woman knows very well that inappropriate dressing is not acceptable in Christian Churches.  Christians should understand that any woman that dresses inappropriately to Church is nothing but a STRANGE FIRE!  These are ungodly women whom satan had entered, and use them to distract the Children of God from receiving the Gospel - they shall not succeed!

Where a Strange Fire (a seductress ) is in the Church, the best thing to do is to treat her like you would treat her master satan.  Disgrace her in public - get the ushers to show her the door - she won't come looking like that to Church again and others like her will learn their lessons.

Some of them are p r o s t i t u t e s - they are not there for God rather, looking for pundits therefore since they want publicity, expose them so that people would know they are on the game - they won't come back again.


Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by cold(m): 1:40am On Oct 08, 2011
'A good example is best sermon'.So they say.You don't expect any less from your members when you don't practice what you preach. indecent manner of dressing by church members has often been facilitated by the appearance and expensive lifestyles of spouses and children of Pastors too. in order to attract more members to churches, some of the self-seeking pastors completely neglect issues on discipline, morality and spiritual welfare, and rather focus on preaching prosperity and issues related to wealth.
Bottomline,the church today is simply a business not a place to groom hearts and minds
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by baslone: 9:56am On Oct 08, 2011
@coogar,

I may be wrong but I still stand by my point. What is wrong is wrong. No two ways about it.

This same African mentality you are referring too.

We don't leave our homes heading to the beach to catch fun in blazers.

We don't go to our white collar jobs in bumper shorts.

We don't visit your in laws in bikinis. Every clothing has its time, place and effects.



Why make it different with your maker.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 11:20am On Oct 08, 2011
@kizito96 what about indecently dressed men?
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 11:22am On Oct 08, 2011
@plappville the problem with the church is that people are busy getting obsessed with sex, when people have better sex lives they tend to be less concerned about somebody else who has a higher potential of getting laid. the best advise for those green with envy when they see a girl with better legs and men appreciating it, is to get laid.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 11:24am On Oct 08, 2011
@Theblessed everyone is the habit of condemning prostitutes. who takes money to them? is it not the husbands who are neglected in the bedrooms? women should have better support for each other. What about seductive men! can't men be seductive, let's not fool ourselves.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 11:27am On Oct 08, 2011
@baslone if you are talking about Africans, we used to walk around, well Unclad, bosoms out, thighs out, everything essentially out and we never used to go on a rape rampage. Haven't you heard many times of women in burkas getting raped. Let's not pretend to be this naive.,
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by coogar: 11:34am On Oct 08, 2011
baslone:

@coogar,
I may be wrong but I still stand by my point. What is wrong is wrong. No two ways about it.

who is to say this type of dressing is wrong?


This same African mentality you are referring too.
We don't leave our homes heading to the beach to catch fun in blazers.

you do!


We don't go to our white collar jobs in bumper shorts.

some do!


We don't visit your in laws in bikinis. Every clothing has its time, place and effects.

so you mean indecent dressers in church go there in bikinis?
is this a joke?



Why make it different with your maker.

very good point!
what makes something indecent to you might be perfectly decent to the next man. it is subjective.
some people think wearing trousers is indecent, some think it is very decent. same as skirts, frocks, or even traditionals!

so which set of people are right and which set of people are wrong?


Eben 2:

@coogar,

am not surprised to see that your argument for indecent dressing could not be surported by any scriptural reference.

please note that God is not a respecter of persons. His standard cannot and would not be lower for anybody be u a nigerian or a european. 'nevertheless, the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, the Lord knoweth them that are His. And let everyone that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity' 2 Tim 2 :19.

a truly born-again child of God will and cannot dress anyhow because such will not be carnally minded cos a carnal mind will always see a spritual thing as senseless and unconfortable.

in fact, a true child of God will not feel confortable in an indecent dress. he sees his body as the temple of the most High God and must be kept holy, he will not do anything that will make his brother fall or prevent a non-believer from coming to the saving grace of God.

as for those that call those that speaks against indecent dressing in the house of God perverts, be saved and read your bible very well and u'll see that the bible admonishes those that are saved to flee all appearances of evil. are u now saying that people that fear God and want to keep thier salvation should run away from the church because of unsaved-dresssing-indecently? shocked shocked

you are just making up your own argument -

reason like an educated individual. we cannot start anything without defining what indecent dressing really means.
when has someone dressed indecently? is there a universal definition for it regardless of culture, location, race, etc?
i will be glad if you can provide answers to that - i would also be glad if you can provide pictures of indecent dressers in any church.
thanx!
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by baslone: 1:24pm On Oct 08, 2011
Standards of modesty vary by culture, or generation and vary depending on who is
exposed, which parts of the body are exposed, the duration of the exposure, the context.

The context would include matters such as whether it is in one's own home, at another
family member's home, at a friend's home, at a semi-public place, at a beach, swimming
pool (including whether such venues are considered clothes-optional), changing rooms or
other public places.

For instance, wearing a bathing suit at the beach would not be considered immodest, while
it likely would be in a street or an office.


What is considered "modest" in this context will[b] depend on the context when the clothes
will be worn and can vary between religions, cultures, generations, occasions, and the persons
who are present.[/b]

Displaying cleavage is considered permissible in many settings, and is even a sign of elegance
and sophistication on many formal social occasions, but it may be considered inappropriate in
settings such as workplaces, churches and schools.


Modesty has been and continues to be considered important in Islamic society, but the interpretation
of what dress constitutes modesty varies. One traditional opinion is that Muslim women are required
to observe the hijab, covering everything but the hands and face, as a sign of modesty.


Some Muslims are of the opinion that modesty is not restricted to dress but also depends on the
intentions of the individual and that the Quran does not command the hijab or the like.

Modesty in Judaism, called Tzniut, is important beyond aspects of clothing. It extends to behaviour
in public and in private, and depends on the context. In Judaism, women wear skirts to their knees and
to cover their elbows, with blouses covering the collarbone and sleeves coming to or covering elbows.


See-through materials may not be used and clothes are expected not to be tight-fitting, provocative,
loud in color, or display texts. It is the custom for an observant married Jewish woman to cover her hair
in public, and sometimes at home. [/b]The hair covering may be a scarf, hat, snood called a Tichel , or a wig
called a Sheitel

[b]Catholics are expected to dress modestly. The wearing of a headcovering was for the first time mandated
as a universal rule for the Latin Rite by the Code of Canon Law of 1917. which code was abrogated by the
advent of the present (1983) Code of Canon Law,.


Apart from that, there have never been any "official" guidelines issued by the Catholic Church. But, from time
to time the Church hierarchy, and even some popes, have given opinions on various matters; although these
"guidelines" are not binding on Catholics, many tradition-minded Catholics find them persuasive.

Pope Pius XII stated that women should cover their upper arms and shoulders, that their skirts should cover
at least as far as the knee, and the neckline should not reveal anything.Another example is Giuseppe Cardinal
Siri of Genoa, who stated that trousers were unacceptable dress for women.
Many tradition-minded Catholics
have attempted to further expand on this latter standard.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has issued official statements on modest dress for its members.
Clothing which can stimulate sexual desires, such as "short shorts and skirts, tight clothing, and shirts that do
not cover the stomach are discouraged, this is part of the Law of Chastity
. Men and women are also encouraged
to avoid extremes in clothing or hairstyles.

Rules on modesty also include[b] women being asked to wear no more than one pair of earrings.[/b]

Many other[b] Trinitarian Christians also consider modesty extremely important[/b], though considerable differences
of opinion exist about its requirements and purposes.

Amish groups and some Mennonite groups are known for their adherence to modest fashion styles.
Evangelical Christians and Holiness Christians also have strict guidelines on modesty.




My stand! Edited from wiki wink

Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by plappville(f): 1:27pm On Oct 08, 2011
For me indecent dress, this can be any clothe that exposses certain part of ur body.
Any skirt shorter than the knee level, tight jean showing the line of the under wear,  is indecent and lack of respect for God. When siting down, the skirt will jump shorter and will  expose the laps!
Why do we dress on suite and nice wedding gan on our wedding day? Has any one tried to use strech jean and handless body(lady) and (man) bagin jean put at the wast exposing the boxer and tshirt. For a special wedding  day? lols.
The church is a special place of worship, members are not to look like the pagans outside.
We all know the difference between decent and indecent dressing. Its true some brethrens are in for distracting others with their mode of dressing. And as pastors are much more interested in other areas inbtheir teaching, things will hardly be retified. Be wise enough to signer the church to correct this.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by frosbel(m): 1:36pm On Oct 08, 2011
[flash=400,400]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPJ5QaPFQ0?version=3&hl=en[/flash]

A beautiful song by decently dressed young people. !!
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by plappville(f): 2:36pm On Oct 08, 2011
(1 Corinthians 5:12) What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.

If we see indecency in the church and cannot speak out, then we do against the word of God.

@Frosbel, NICE VIDEO!!
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 2:48pm On Oct 08, 2011
@plappville we already know you are self righteous so we get it. I may find your height to be indecent. or your trouser, it is silly to be so obsessed with sex all the time. you have supposedly gone to church to worship not for sex, so why not keep your sex thoughts under control. please!
@ baslone standards to suppress women. where are the indecently dressed men who are getting lectures. Those are without a doubt nice legs, in your pic the same way someone can have nice lips. Or nice eyes, are we now saying we do burkas, if covering women was a measure of how people don't get raped or how moral people are, then it clearly inaccurate.
how about men covering their arms, why not harass men. all your codes are about stepping on women, yes it is not unique to christianity or nigeria. rape is not unique to abuja it does not mean it is right!
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 2:52pm On Oct 08, 2011
@frosbel plappvillite has a fetish for women covered head to toe in cloth just like some people like lingerie or leather thongs. You have really excited plappville now, so much, this is like hardcore Indecency to him, what have you done to this child of God?
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by baslone: 3:09pm On Oct 08, 2011
@zatas, the biggest culprits are women! How many men go to churches and mosque wearing singlets, arm less tees pimped up hair and studs like terry G.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by plappville(f): 4:36pm On Oct 08, 2011
zataxs:

@frosbel plappvillite has a fetish for women covered head to toe in cloth just like some people like lingerie or leather thongs. You have really excited plappville now, so much, this is like hardcore indecency to him, what have you done to this child of God?

Feltish shocked shocked shocked
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by coogar: 4:53pm On Oct 08, 2011
baslone:

Standards of modesty vary by culture, or generation and vary depending on who is
exposed, which parts of the body are exposed, the duration of the exposure, the context.



The context would include matters such as whether it is in one's own home, at another
family member's home, at a friend's home, at a semi-public place, at a beach, swimming
pool (including whether such venues are considered clothes-optional), changing rooms or
other public places.

i don't believe that picture was taken in a church!
you have to do better than that!
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by plappville(f): 5:59pm On Oct 08, 2011
They cant be taken in Church shocked shocked !! i guess he was just showing what a mini skirt it!
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 8:57pm On Oct 08, 2011
@baslone of course the biggest culprits are women in your eyes, they are culprits. chauvinism is ingrained into the bible where everyone of importance is a man, yet most laws are for controlling women. if we are to use the stereotype of singlets, then men with big cars and gold watches should also not come to church. many men get more distracted with even eyes, so we cover the eyes? what about lips? what about people with beautiful voices? This is a sexist attack and that;s it.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 9:00pm On Oct 08, 2011
@plappville fetish yes. some people only make love when the other partner wears a bow tie. some fetishes can be very strange.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 9:02pm On Oct 08, 2011
@plappville are you insecure about your legs, why are you so surprised.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 9:04pm On Oct 08, 2011
@coogar let's not pretend that it is those women who have the problem with minis. It is you. you need to fix your problem.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by coogar: 9:18pm On Oct 08, 2011
zataxs:

@coogar let's not pretend that it is those women who have the problem with minis. It is you. you need to fix your problem.

are you sure that was meant for me?
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by zataxs: 9:52pm On Oct 08, 2011
@coogar I was just saying it is okay, if it was church, I think the women look ok. Thing is, going to church is the problem, women can't except to be treated fairly in church and you are right, there is no evidence that the photo was taken in church.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by baslone: 10:06am On Oct 09, 2011
coogar:

i don't believe that picture was taken in a church!
you have to do better than that!

This particular one might not be in church but I see ones close to this on regular Sundays!
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by Eben2: 4:26pm On Oct 09, 2011
coogar:


you are just making up your own argument -

reason like an educated individual. we cannot start anything without defining what indecent dressing really means.
when has someone dressed indecently? is there a universal definition for it regardless of culture, location, race, etc?
i will be glad if you can provide answers to that - i would also be glad if you can provide pictures of indecent dressers in any church.
thanx!




We are talking about the church of God here and God does not need ur education to set His standard.

Besides, everybody knows what dress is decent and which is not. and i maintained that a truly born-again child of God will never expose any part of his/her body for an outsider to see in the name of fashion; because such is not canally minded but only work according to the dictates of the Spirit.
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by Eben2: 4:43pm On Oct 09, 2011
coogar:

i don't believe that picture was taken in a church!
you have to do better than that!


Believe me, I've seen worse. May God help His church. Amen
Re: Indecent Dressing In Churches Worries Nigerian Pastor by plappville(f): 8:43pm On Oct 09, 2011
Eben 2:


We are talking about the church of God here and God does not need your education to set His standard.

Besides, everybody knows what dress is decent and which is not. and i maintained that a truly born-again child of God will never expose any part of his/her body for an outsider to see in the name of fashion; because such is not canally minded but only work according to the dictates of the Spirit.

GBAM!!! U ve finish matter.
Insert Quote
@plappville are you insecure about your legs,  why are you so surprised.

I can be insucured if i disrespect God and my veryself by exposing some hiden part of my body.
But this is not in my case so i guess i am secured.

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