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Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by NinjaMetahuman: 8:08am On Aug 31, 2023 |
badoh:and that's the biggest flaws of democracy. It makes the losers too emotional. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by chidiokay: 8:17am On Aug 31, 2023 |
agulion: Should any sane person support COUP under any guise in the 1st place. You prefer to lose your voice just becos you are talking and no one is answering, does that make sense You have headache and you seek to cut off your head does it make sense The Obedient family can continue to justify all illegality to console themselves But Peter Obi or his generation will never be rule Nigeria. it not to late for Obedient and Peter Obi to go and join Nigeria military .... One thing is clear God is against them.. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by madridguy(m): 8:20am On Aug 31, 2023 |
I don't take coward serious... Chiefpriestt: |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by yeshuasfootstep(m): 8:27am On Aug 31, 2023 |
No. It's brazen state capture. You can say poison when they're still doing it hideously, unlike what we just witnessed. If all those involved go Scot free, I'll know there's no God. But God is showing clearly that he is aware. As we can see in Gabon. All the oppressed of the world are free since 2019. But like Elephant that has been tied for so long in a particular place, even if you untie it, it will still be there looking at you. Elohim is above the affairs of mankind. Nature is supreme. If the coup plotters fail to right the wrong, they will still collect. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by Tareq1105: 8:31am On Aug 31, 2023 |
slowice: Emilokan mentality is better than military junta as we see in Gabon today. Emilokan is prophetic and it's about ambition and I don't know any Law that is against ambition. Most children on the nairaland don't know the implications of military intervention. Shehu Sani wouldn't be able to tweet any longer. Let's see how Shehu Sani would speak truth to power inside prison without trial. Children on the platform would sacrifice their Instagram Facebook tweeter, and other social media stuff bcoz freedom of speech wouldn't be allowed. I prefer democracy anytime any day irrespective of who's the president. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by chidiokay: 8:31am On Aug 31, 2023 |
GetSenseNow: addressing illegality with illegality what truth is in that, are you sure you are not sick If you and your brother are fighting over land, then the king steps in and claims the land, before you feel cheated will that change, All those foolish socialite that were condemning Ecowas/Tinubu moves on Niger ... should we still fold our arms and wait till it happens to everyone. fools |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by Bluntemperor: 8:44am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Africa Must Allowed Democracy To Strives: Senator Shehu Musa,I do agree and appreciate your invaluable contributions to the Nigeria Development because by speaking all the time to correct the ills of the Society, is part of the Democratic Responsibilities of the Citizens but with genuine heart not with a tribalism or Nepotism - as many do in the North!e g Arewa Consulta e - that were silent during the bazzare govt of Buhari- who patched his Cabinet with Nonperformance of his kindsmen is talking now! Just imagine for good 8- yrs they were mute to high injustices of Appointments,Security Challenges,Economic None -Performance, rampant Corruption,etc,except you and few others who were always sounding alarms to Buhari then! Many of the African Countries were never given the Democratic Opportunity nor allowed it to function and tribes, especially in the FRANCOPHONE African Regions and Portuguese Colonies. Imagine the the likes of Mobutu of Zaire,the Togo Ayandema,the Chad, the Mali experience,now the Garbon! Many African supporters too,blindly believed that once their Tribe is not in Power, they should look for govt downfall, unknown to the gaulibles,Army/ Soldiers were never trained for Civilian Administrations,hence they see Civilian as' Bloody Civilians' as they will never be Accountable to any Civilian but with time,Democracy will endure,if we allowed it, without Internal or External influence. Democracy has process and Procedures to follow,with distinction of Choice of Candidates n Not -a One Man Show as done by Past and some Present African Maximum leaders! The way to go for African Leaders is Not to run to China orRussia - imaging Putin is over 21- yrs in Power and is crushing every Passived opposition and same with Chinese- afterall these two Countries are Communists Dictators,no matter the Coloration as they will not allowed Democracy,which inturn fits the African own Dictator circles! |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by Sermwell(m): 9:00am On Aug 31, 2023 |
AllenSpencer:Oga shut up!! All the new laws and technology introduced in the last election, how did your thiefnubuu and useless INEC made it work?? |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by chidiokay: 9:05am On Aug 31, 2023 |
nnamdi640: The one that was transmitted and agreed to be "FAIR" who had the upperhand The problem with most of you is that you think becos you can read and write you have sense . That APC won more state and sit across Nigeria is enough indication "APC is Nigeria" choice. How can a party that won one state out of 36states be the true representation of peoples choice as President. Since 1999 till 2019, do we have a Ruling Party that didnt reflect majority across the country |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by johnaruson(m): 9:10am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Tinubu and INEC chairman Mahmood killed democracy on 25th February presidential election rigging 1 Like |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by emmyN(m): 9:20am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Africa never practiced democracy. How can one family hold power for more than 50 years as in the case of Gabon! |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by slowice(m): 9:20am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Tareq1105: Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable. Emilokan is the mentality of extremely corrupt persons who believe power is their right and will do anything to get it at all cost even if it mean destroying vital institutions in the process. That is the mentality of most African leaders that impedes growth and give rise to anarchy and coups. There is nothing spiritual about it, it is a demonic mindset 1 Like |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by Okoroawusa: 9:21am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Shehu is right. Also lack of strong institutions in Africa makes politics a lucrative industry for the elitists. Political power becomes a means of rising above poverty and not just a status thing as it's obtained in Western countries that taught us democracy. Another problem is the sit tight syndrome of African leaders that took power in the 60s, 70s and even 80s(as the case of Paul Biya of Cameron). Then the issue of France. Let's be frank, France has not done well by their former colonies in Africa. Check out where we have most of the problems. They are mostly francophone countries. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by nnamdi640: 12:10pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
chidiokay:You don't use the senate result to justify who will win the presidential election, please use your common sense. For example, Obi won in Lagos but the senatorial result favoured APC, that along should tell you that the mindset in voting in senatorial election defer from that of presidential election. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by CORRECTMAN78(m): 12:12pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
agulion: Very useless people! |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by nnamdi640: 12:14pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
NinjaMetahuman:Your generation has been caus*d, that is why you don't see anything wrong in the election, just continue supporting the bad process because that same process you defended will be used against you and your fellow one day. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by chidiokay: 1:02pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
nnamdi640: IF you hard use your sense, you will know i was talking about the entirety of the election from reps to senate to Governor which are build up to presidency, lagos is just one state out of 36, here is the appropriate way to look at it; When Nigerians got tired of PDP, change revolved from bottom to top, APC won sit across board and across state they had "Majority" in all ramifications make senses imagine Peter OBi/LP had won how would a Party with One governor and lesser rep suffice as people choice or survive opposition .. politics is a game of numbers. To know the Party of choice, check the highest sitting Rep, thats the true majority |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by Chiefpriestt: 2:19pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
madridguy:Lol.. We all know the tribe that breeds cowards |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by nnamdi640: 2:44pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
chidiokay:If you are using the the number of states won by LP during the governorship election to justify the outcome of presidential election then you don't understand politics. Mind you, Obi won 12 states and out of the 12states he won the presidential election, only one produces governor for the party, you should know that people no longer look at name of party rather they look at individual before casting their votes, if assuming they were looking at parties, LP wouldn't have won any state controlled by APC and PDP. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by QueenNyakim: 3:10pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
NinjaMetahuman: The way I see it, the voters are also partially to blame for electing these people into office in the first place and not holding their politcians accountable. People would rather blame colonialism that ended decades ago instead of taking responsibility for their own actions. Most African nations are nearly 100 years old now and we are still at square one and still the poorest continent in the world despite being blessed with so many minerals. All African politicians have to do is make false promises. Win votes by commissioning infrastructure like a 1km road or something. Or blame all their problems onto a vulnerable minority group like the LGBT or a tribal group for example as a cover up for their own incompetence. Also, 99.99% of African constitutions are poorly written with an unequal distribution of power mostly given to the president. Insitutions are are also weak that allows a breeding ground for rampant corruption. Its not that Democracy doesn't work in africa, lmfao. Democracy can only work with an educated populous that can hold its government accountable. Hit them where it hurts, by voting these bozos out otherwise nothing changes. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by madridguy(m): 3:24pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
We all know the tribe that will first writing UN, NFA, UEFA and even XON. Chiefpriestt: |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by chidiokay: 4:00pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
nnamdi640: According to FACTS, OBI won 11states and that is not what my arguement was about. My point remains APC is the choice of the people as shown by the 2023 polls, from presidency down to local govt APC won majority across Nigeria. The ideology that people want LP at presidency, maybe apc as govenor and Pdp as rep holds no water For the pass 20yrs of our democracy, whichever party that win the presidency always have a corresponding highest number of sits at all polls. Labour party won just one state in the governship and came 3rd in other political race that depicts LP as Minority The only reason or Leaverage a Peter Obi has to even contend with a Tinubu is because of APC image, if Tinubu had come earlier before that dullard buhari OBI won't even stand a chance, people vote unknown members of LP out of anger they have APC. There are buses you won't enter on a normal day but imagine being stranded for 2hrs at the bus stop then one smoking kabukabu park won't you jump in OBi is an opportunist but he failed |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by chidiokay: 4:03pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
nnamdi640: According to FACTS, OBI won 11states and that is not what my arguement was about. My point remains APC is the choice of the people as shown by the 2023 polls, from presidency down to local govt APC won majority across Nigeria. The ideology that people want LP at presidency, maybe apc as govenor and Pdp as rep holds no water For the pass 20yrs of our democracy, whichever party that win the presidency always have a corresponding highest number of sits at all polls. Labour party won just one state in the governship and came 3rd in other political race that depicts LP as Minority The only reason or Leaverage a Peter Obi has to even contend with a Tinubu is because of APC image, if Tinubu had come earlier before that dullard buhari OBI won't even stand a chance, people voted unknown members of LP out of anger they have APC, you can't rule out party name |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by Reference(m): 4:06pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Na so. Water must find its level. At some point pressure generates heat. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by nnamdi640: 4:32pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
chidiokay:We all know that the election was rigged, beside, Tinubu vote didn't correspond to the people's vote because if you add up the number of people that voted against him, you will see that majority voted against him. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by Reference(m): 4:48pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Tareq1105: If the people don't do what is right and advocate for justice, equity and the rule of law. If they continue to support all the social ills that degrade society then they will be forced to live under a system of government they perhaps do not like. It's not up to the so-called leaders or anyone in power at any point in time. It is up to the people. They decide how they will be ruled ultimately. It is the people of Niger Republic that brought in the military, and the depravity of autocratic rule by not being able to manage democracy and ensure/advocate for the ideals I mentioned above, both supporters and opponents of the defunct civilian government. If you are an opponent of this APC government and cannot oppose it in a civil, objective and intellectual manner void of inflammatory sentiment you will simply burn democracy down. On the other hand if you are a supporter of this APC government and cannot guide it to govern properly in a civil, just and progressive manner void of inflammatory sentiment then you cannot blame anyone if it is toppled. All of us have a responsibility both for and against to develop this country and keep democracy as the best form of government alive and in motion. Unfortunately the people of Gabon and Niger both for and against Bongo or Bazoum could not deliver the purpose of democracy hence they ALL lost out. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by zionzoe(m): 5:02pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
adams123: In TAQUIYA, you can even say that Afghanistan doesn't have any Muslim. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by chidiokay: 7:23pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
nnamdi640: and where did you have that consensus that denotes "ALL" .. pre 2023 election was there any election that held in Nigeria that the losers accepted is credible, if not for Jonathan personality did Pdp accept 2015 result did Atiku ever accept 1993 election was the most free and credible election in Nigeria but one igbo man went to court to annull it, I love that lame analysis you brought up devil bless you, To determine the number of votes against Tinubu you sum up OBI & ATIKU vote rite ! but you forgot the election was an individual race, therefore every vote for OBi is against others and when you do the calculation among the 3 contenders you will realize Peter Obi had more vote against him and Tinubu lesser vote against him compare to any candidate in that race In democracy Majority is determined by the largest vote enmass by one of the contenders NO collabo all man for himself |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by iampeterben(m): 5:48pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
GetSenseNow:There is no way you will perform well when you have stayed 50yrs in a seat of power stop deceiving yourself. |
Re: Poisoned Elections Responsible For Death Of Democracy In Africa – Shehu Sani by GetSenseNow: 8:09pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
iampeterben:I used that to give an example |
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