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Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Swiftgrp: 6:10pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
femisplash:Lol. |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by 2BabaNairaland: 6:23pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Stubborn82: 6:56pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
Irony1:You know its true that I have said, you are the one not smart enough to get my point, or maybe the hatred has blind your eyes to see the truth |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Stubborn82: 6:59pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
ttobizz:Then you should have write to the Senate's to carry out investigation on it, not that you will shouting like someone who's going to die tomorrow, you are accusing someone that's is not yet prove guilty of the crime |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Stubborn82: 7:01pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
Shikini:I guest your fada must be a disgrace to your tribe, anytime you open your mouth, I knew that the fada that raise must be a disgrace |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Kaycee9242(m): 7:05pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
SpecialAdviser: Its even an insult to mu.mu people, this one no qualify 1 Like |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Stubborn82: 7:07pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
remi2good:Hatred can make some zom-bidiots to think upside down |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by ttobizz(m): 7:19pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
Stubborn82: Place your head straight. I feel your pain |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by RoyalUc(m): 7:21pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
Wallade: If this were to be happening to Atiku, Obi, Emefiele, would you hold the same view? |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Stubborn82: 7:21pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
IfnobeGod20:The problem with you people is this hatred you have. This hatred is making some of you to go mad. What I wrote there is not that I support whatever they are accusing Tinubu of, even despite that I knew very well that majority of this news were mere rumours and fake, yet I'm not blindly supporting Tinubu, but I made it clear that atiku is not doing this for the Nigeria but selfish ambition, thats why I said if it was the body of Nigerian government that call for this, I will support it. But you overlooked this my statement and started saying something else, read my post very well before you mentioned me, I just respected you but don't drag me next time, there is no mercy in my tongue |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Stubborn82: 7:22pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
ttobizz:I can see that you are really in pain, watch Tinubu complete 8 years |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by IfnobeGod20: 7:37pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
Wallade:In trying to justify the cover up for Tinubu, you went haywire and misrepresenting fact and figure. The minimum requirement to be submitted for the post of a president is Secondary School certificate and not Primary School certificate you stated. Read your constitution very well. Meanwhile, in all records that Tinubu submitted to INEC, he claimed he doesn't have primary and secondary school certificate but only claimed he has B.Sc and that was what he submitted. Now, for record, the B.Sc he claimed he had was observed to be riddled with inconsistencies when compared to the one given to a Nigerian lawyer friend who subpoenaed CSU to request for it. It was the said lawyer that first sued Tinubu last year, I think around October, claiming that Tinubu submitted fake certificate. Now, in my own bias, yes, I know Tinubu went to CSU and he graduated successfully but two issues are in contention. 1. Tinubu might have gotten the replacement of his B.Sc cert through the back door and not follow the normal route to get it, which brought him to this ridicule. 2. Tinubu might have used another person's diploma result to gain admission into CSU, which made his certificate to bear female as sex and his date of birth different from the usual one he is using. Besides, to the main issue on whether Tinubu reserve the right to make his record available to anyone or not. My brother, Tinubu is no more a private person again, since the day he came out to say he wants to be Nigeria president. Since that day, he is a public person and that was why the US judge ruled that since Tinubu had submitted his diploma Atiku's interest supersedes Tinubu's right. Go back and read that judgement again. Every public officers lost their right as a private persons the day to come out to vie for position and that is why no one scrutinize someone sitting jeje in his parlour. Or did you see anyone disturbing him on his cert since he left office in 2007? He has lost his privacy right as a president of Nigeria. However, that the past presidents doesn't live above board, does it mean those after them should not live above board? Please which kind mentality is that? With this your mentality, it would be hard for the country to move forward. Must the nation always cover up deficiency and for what reason? |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by ttobizz(m): 7:42pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
Stubborn82: Cant you see, it's your pain all along. I'm more concerned about my international image as a Nigerian, your Tinubu can have 20yr for all I care, just make sure to give him a clean record. 1 Like |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by DOptical: 8:00pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
Atiku chasing wild goose. Took Jonathan to court, including Jonathan's academic records. Took Buhari to court. Now it's Tinubu 😂 CSU has severally affirmed that Tinubu was their graduate. That's the only thing they owe the public. They won't release Tinubu's records to anyone. You're not his parents or guardian who paid his school fees. Imagine the nonsense. I liked how CSU called off his bluff and told him to go sit down. Thus all he and his cohorts resorted to fake news everywhere 😂 |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by IfnobeGod20: 8:03pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
Stubborn82:Sorry nobody have a hatred but saying things the way it suppose to be. The Bible says, buy the truth and sell it not. We cannot continue to cover up falsehood, ill manner and dirty life of people for no reason. Thank you for even reminding me, that you would have given support if it was national assembly that was investigating Tinubu. Mr. Man, it is not within the purview of national assembly to investigate a case of forgery because it doesn't even fall under any oversight function of it. They are only empowered to investigate matters within the government business. It's only police that have the mandate to investigate such matter. It is when they had finished the investigation, then pass it to National Assembly as an instrument for impeachment. Please try and educate yourself than commenting out of point. Everything is not by gragra. Sorry o, I am used to denigration, it is not a new thing to me but I don't go down to gutter with anyone. Abuse me till tomorrow, it won't change anything in me. |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Basher8583: 10:17pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
Taylor92: You beter shut up your trap of a mouth before enta unecessary wahala and end up wearing Clavin Rein |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Basher8583: 10:21pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
ttobizz: May you not run mad trying to know what is already known all too well. |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Wallade(m): 10:50pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
IfnobeGod20: When you want to lecture people in public space, always do your research before misinforming people. 1. I insist that a contestant for the presidential election in Nigeria only needs Pry School Leaving certificate as minimum requirement to contest. See https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/law/eligibility-to-contest-election-into-elective-offices-under-the-1999-constitution/amp I quote: "Undoubtedly, Section 131(d) of the 1999 Constitution (as amended) prescribes Secondary School Leaving Certificate as the minimum educational qualification of candidates contesting election to the office of the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. It stipulates that candidates must be “educated up to at least School Leaving Certificate Level or its equivalent.” When the above provision is construed in its ordinary grammatical meaning, persons who do not possess the Secondary School Leaving Certificate or its equivalent are not qualified to contest election to the office of President. In other words, upon a cursory reading of the provision of Section 131(d), it is easy to come off with the impression that unless a person possesses the Secondary School Leaving Certificate or its equivalent (Grade II Teacher’s Certificate, the City and Guilds Certificate), he or she is ordinarily not eligible to contest election to the office of the President of Nigeria. Similar interpretation will be given to other provisions on qualification of candidates in respect of other elective posts/offices. The above provision must however be read along with Section 318(1) of the said Constitution, which is the interpretation Section. It becomes crystal clear, upon a careful reading of the said Interpretation Section, that even persons whose educational qualifications are below the Secondary School Leaving Certificate/level and its equivalent are still qualified to contest election, if they possess the Primary Six School Leaving Certificate or its equivalent along with the other requirements listed under the said definition Section (Section 318 (1)). For the avoidance of doubt, Section 318(1) provides: “School Certificate or its equivalent” means – (a) a Secondary School Certificate or its equivalent, or Grade II Teacher’s Certificate, the City and Guilds Certificate; or (b) education up to Secondary School Certificate level; or (c) Primary Six School Leaving Certificate or its equivalent and- (1) service in the public or private sector in the Federation in any capacity acceptable to the Independent National Electoral Commission for a minimum of ten years, and (11) attendance at courses and training in such institutions as may be acceptable to the Independent National Electoral Commission for periods totalling up to a minimum of one year, and (111) the ability to read, write, understand and communicate in the English language to the satisfaction of the Independent National Electoral Commission; and (d) any other qualification acceptable by the Independent National Electoral Commission;” 2. Tinubu submitted BSc certificate hence the reason INEC didn't demand his pry or secondary school leaving certificate. This doesn't mean he doesn't have pry or secondary school leaving certificate. He didn't claim not to have Pry or Secondary school leaving certificate. 3. The Chicago State University confirmed that Tinubu was a student of the school, he attended CSU and graduated in 1979 with a bachelor's degree. The initial certificate issued to him had discrepancies however, another authenticated certificate was issued to him by the school. Why would you assume he used another person's result or he got the authenticated one via backdoor? 4. Atiku's interest does not supersede Tinubu's right to privacy on his academic result. What you and the entire public need is to see the certificate, if Tinubu and INEC so wishes. Further scrutiny can be directed to the school and once the school certifies it, that should be it. 5. If you believe Tinubu lost his privacy right, should that give you, Atiku and others the audacity to harass, embarrass and humiliate him? 6. No Nigerian politician lives above board; they are all not perfect and God is not necessarily interested in perfect politicians in His leadership choice for Nigeria. God chose Tinubu despite his imperfections, and there is nothing Atiku, Obi or any of you can do about it. Election is over, it wasn't the best but we have moved on. We have more serious challenges to ponder and solve for a better Nigeria. |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Wallade(m): 10:56pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
RoyalUc: I would share the same opinion if Atiku or Obi is the president of Nigeria. Election is over, whoever won is the choice of the people and ultimately the choice of God. Live with it, please, and stop this disgraceful, hateful, unpatriotic and ridiculous attacks on the president. |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Brownking: 3:35am On Sep 29, 2023 |
Bliss62: If your mother raised you then I'm disappointed in your mother. |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by bejick(m): 6:10am On Sep 29, 2023 |
Stubborn82: If you have use the amount energy you used in this write up, you for don make in life. But no you rather support a druggie, first class certificate forger and money Laundry man. You cannot shame the shameless. If Thiefubv have any atom of shame he would have not contested but we are in Nigeria a very retarted Country. |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by victory36(m): 9:27am On Sep 29, 2023 |
Bliss62:you are now changing goalposts after telling atiku to go to court? |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by IfnobeGod20: 9:47am On Sep 29, 2023 |
Wallade:The problem I have with some of you is that you always like to justify yourself when corrected. Even after you quoted the same section that validate my submission, you still went berserk justifying it to align with your submission. Primary School certificate is not a prerequisite for appointment or elective position or employment in Nigeria. I am a public servant and I am telling you what you don't know. The minimum qualification for entry in Nigeria is secondary school certificate. Having primary school certificate is as if you have nothing and you are not employable or elective with it. Now, let me take all the issues you raised one after the other. 1. It seems you're not current and just justifying and backing Tinubu without details of him. For your information, Tinubu didn't enter his primary and secondary school in the INEC form he filled. He filled nil in the two entries but filled his B.Sc. Please, how would you claim somebody has what he didn't fill in his form? This is baffling. The secondary and primary schools he filled in 1999, it was discovered he didn't attend those schools but later claimed the Mr. Afikuyori that filled the forms form him that did the mistakes. He was taken to court by Gani Fawehinmi that time for forgery and perjury but being the nature of our courts, they did abracadabra and the thing was killed unjustly. The secondary school in Ibadan he claimed he went to, Late Odumakin was one of those that graduated the year he claimed he graduated there but the man came to live tv and said he doesn't know Tinubu in that school. During the build up to the presidential election, Festus Keyamo claimed Tinubu learned from home and didn't go to any primary or secondary school, that he got his diploma by learning from home. I do hope you were sleeping when all these were happening. 2. This your number two had been addressed in number one. Tinubu has never revealed he attended any primary or secondary school. The one he entered in 1999, have been discovered to be fake and he never attended both. 3. I don't think many of you even know what was in contention. None of his political opponents ever said he didn't attend CSU, their contention is the discrepancies in his certificates submitted to INEC that are in variance to the one given to Nigerian lawyer by the same CSU. Now,let me lecture you. Universities all over the world don't issue two certificates to their students for a single course. If the first one is issue, the next you can get is notification. The certificate of each set are always identical and the same in features. Your insinuation that the initial certificate issued to him had discrepancy was from your self made idea and not even from Tinubu. The last time I checked, Tinubu claimed that his certificates were lost to unknown soldiers that came to ransacked his house when he was on exile. Stop making up issue as to justify and back Tinubu please, as you're not even current of issue. I can tell you that Tinubu went through the back doors to get his certificate notification and that is what his dragging his name to the mould. Another person's result I am talking about is his acclaimed "diploma" certificate and not the B.Sc certificate. That was the diploma that he used to gain admission into CSU. That was the certificate Festus Keyamo said Tinubu got from home by reading from home to pass it. 4. My brother I wasn't the one that said so. It was the the judge that said so, that Tinubu submitting his diploma had subjected it to public scrutiny. He said, because of that Atiku interest supersedes Tinubu's right on the premise that since Atiku want to use it for a purpose at the Nigerian supreme court. Please try and be current so that you will not be making submission out of blues. 5. Please who and who is harassing him? That Atiku took him to court has become an harassment in your own world. Hey! following legal procedure has become an harassment in your own world. Please comment intelligently. Nobody is harassing Tinubu, he puts himself under political scrutiny by vying for the highest position. 6. No doubt no politician is perfect but should we now overlooked the one that is glaring and visible to us. We cannot continue to overlook imperfection, how would the country grow? I hope you're not part of those blaming and abusing Mnesoma, the girl that forged her jamb's score. If you are, you're an hypocrite of the first degree for giving this kind submission you gave above. Because it is said, what is sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander. Playing double standard is the greatest disservice to the nation. I thought after election, the constitution gives room for redress at the tribunal, then, why are you saying the election is over and you have moved on? You better sponsor a bill to exponge that section from the constitution, so that after election you can move on and there will be no need for tribunal set up again to look into election cases. You guys always want all things to go your ways, when you're not God. 2 Likes |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Afonjacrusder(f): 10:17am On Sep 29, 2023 |
Taylor92: No mind the unrepentant Yorubad scammer. I called him out earlier, but he wouldn't change. |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Ballotti: 10:19am On Sep 29, 2023 |
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Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Wallade(m): 10:39am On Sep 29, 2023 |
IfnobeGod20: Well, I took my time to do some research for you in the hope that you could learn as well but you are still stuck to your view on the pry school leaving certificate issue. I also think you did not take your time to read the article nor the quote I extracted from the article. Anyway, that is your business; when you want to contest for the position of the president, submit your Secondary school leaving certificate or better still, your PhD. I don't have time for banters with you. Kindly proceed with your investigation, court cases, harassment, embarrassment and desperate attacks; it is your dance of shame afterall. Nigeria can handle your worst shot. Just know that Atiku will never be president of Nigeria, no matter what you do. Maybe Obi could be Nigeria's president in future elections but definitely not Atiku. Thanks but no thanks to your paymaster! |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by IfnobeGod20: 11:40am On Sep 29, 2023 |
Wallade:Just I have told you before now, I am a public servant and I am telling you what I know and what is obtainable in our constitution that you once quoted by yourself. The requirements for elective positions and minimum requirement for employment in Nigeria. For your information, I don't even vote, because of the nature of my job that forbids me voting. Meaning, choosing of leaders in Nigeria, I don't participate in it but that doesn't stop me lending my voice on critical issues of morality and good conscience. Nobody is harassing anybody so far you go through the legal and constituted route. Stop making it look as if it is an harassment. If you know you have a dark past and you brings yourself out for elective position, it means, you're the one that doesn't love the country. If you love the country, you should know that your dark past will tint and Rob off on the country and her people. In a saner countries, when such issue comes up, the person honorably resign to preserve the country's image and dignity but not in Nigeria, they would want to die there because they know they would have those that would back them and they also know that they can manipulate the system to their favour. No patriotism. Their is to people and not the country and that is why the country is sinking. The same case of seeking to revealing Tinubu's records have gone to at least three courts in the country and they all threw it out but same case was received with opened arms in US and a node was given to CSU to make the records available to Atiku, that Tinubu is now seeking variation on what will be given to Atiku in his records. When are we go to grow as a nation? When are our system going to work as it supposed to be and not be at the whims and caprices of the powerful in the country? Until we get to that junction, things will continue to degenerate beyond repair. Whether Atiku or Obi will be president now or after is none of my business. My business is let our leaders live above board because they are our symbols. |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by Wallade(m): 12:01pm On Sep 29, 2023 |
IfnobeGod20: Nigerian politicians and leaders will probably live above board - honest, just and selflessly - in the days of your grandchildren. Dream on! |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by kunle4toyeyaho: 1:00pm On Sep 29, 2023 |
Zxcvbnmghtr:they would be roundly defeated again in 2027 1 Like |
Re: Atiku Files Fresh Suit For Tinubu's Records To Be Released By CSU by kunle4toyeyaho: 1:04pm On Sep 29, 2023 |
pandax:He provided what is more than school cert.,the CSU even deposed to an affidavit to support the claim. |
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