Gaddafi is no more African than Egyptians are

funny, i see most of the libyans who support ghaddafi screaming african pride.

The Libyans who make fun of Ghaddafi call him an african, a black.

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Si, he really messed up. But that does not change the fact that he did made some positive changes.

Now as for our Nigeria, well, i wish there will be some improvement

if wishes were naira nigerians wuld spend.na action we nid.u go b our revolution leader?i beg na

Gadaffi is my views and prolly majority of Africans is african true leader anda true warrior. his only crime is his unwavering support for pan- africanism. some folks here say he oppressed and suppressed, killed his people, all im saying is this, provide me with some evidence, or link or something, or shut up for good, he ruled for 42 years, so freaking what, the quuen of england been there for centuries, same as the king of saudi and bahrain and some of the useless african leaders like eyadema of togo, omar bongo of gabon etc.

African leaders should be shamed of themselves, this was a man that invest heavily in their economy so that they can be free from the shackles of colonmentality and aparthied, a man who helps africa when african needed him, but when he needed africa, they turn their backs on him. RIP GAddaffi

There are no permanent friends but permanent interests. Same people shaking his hands killed him. RIP Africa last hero

Gaddafi was a true African leader though he got power drunk he fought for his country and Africa to be independent of the west. The Western media might paint him black because of the evil he did but is there any true leader who ruled without mistakes? Am not supporting him in the wrong he did but am not taking what the media is feeding me over his death. Africa is now in the hands of Europe and the USA with his death.

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LOL it took me that long to focus on this topic? lol. watching too much CNN!

@ topic: this is a bitter sweet moment for africa.

It shows the consequence of trying to rule with harsh tactics regardless of how loved and respected one is. This also shows the importance of self reliance and awareness among African nations.

This was a man who "ruled with an iron fist". A man of his kind is not hard to find in prehistoric or present day Africa. Sadly these men who rule in such a way fail to realize the first man didn't last long, neither will they. [I see Cameroon being the next line of rebellion due to the pined up frustration of having a president who rules as dictator.] It's a brutal cycle that seems to continue BECAUSE a lot of Africans seem not to value the "history repeats itself" philosophy. So in the ensuing months or years of Gaddafi's death, I can guarantee that we will see political and ethnic killings throughout Libya because of one man's misjudgement and abandonment of original agendas.

This is nothing new to the African continent unfortunately however it can be curved. While I believe the method of rule exhibited by Gaddafi should have no place in Africa I will say that on the other hand, I think Africans should take to SOME of his ideologies.

Ghaddafi may not have necessarily WANTED African unity as much as he preached (or pretended to some) BUT the proposal is a good one. He preached he importance of trade and building relationships between the Africans nations AS WELL AS WITH the black countries in the west. Being Caribbean myself I think the idea to be fantastic. Africans and Caribbeans forming their own uniting of nations as we watch the power shift go east and imperialistic ideologies head eastward as well.  A lot of African countries are now dealing with China the way they did their European oppressors. What do I mean? Blacks have relied so heavily on Whites and Arabs to GIVE to us but in turn we don't DO FOR SELF. Now that China is gaining momentum, she is now looking at Africa.

With that said I think now MORE THAN ever, African leaders need to seriously rethink about how they are and plan to remain in power. Change up their strategies and think on a more democratic point of view. Africa won't get any better in a matter of days or few years. it will take decades to right the wrongs but the initiative needs to be taken now, so that Africa won't be the feature of CNN due to war and chaos but rather due because of upgrades and promise. Like Gaddafi showed in his final months, Africa won't be able to defend herself if her people are unhappy and conflicted.

So folks I do feel for him but I gotta take Gaddafi for what he was; a live reflection of and lesson to Africa. He served his purpose on Earth already which is why he is nolonger with us. He was to enlighten and lead by example when it comes to the pros and cons of self reliance or lack thereof. Now its time for African leaders to move smarter.

It shows the consequence of trying to rule with harsh tactics regardless of how loved and respected one is. This also shows the importance of self reliance and awareness among African nations.

I wish people would stop saying this. People forget it took MONTHS of bombing by the worlds most powerful armies, it took months of planning and smuggling weapons into Libyan cities while imposing an arms embargo on ghaddafi.

Even stationary soldiers who were not attacking anyone were killed, even defensive positions were attacked by NATO. In the end, the city of Sirte would not give up, and they were bombed to oblivion because of it, NATO violated the Geneva Conventions and international law to bring about this victory. The Rebels spent the last two months attacking Sirte and Bani Walid, and only now after the entire cities have been destroyed has victory been realized.

Throughout the rebellion, hundreds of thousands of Libyans poured out into the streets in support of Ghaddafi. You cant forget that the rebels were detaining and killing anyone with a green flag, so people really dont have anymore freedom than they did under ghaddafi.

MSdarkskin, i started reading ur rather voluminous lyrics in the middle but when i looked up and saw CNN i understood why ur views are rather simplistic and far from the truth, just a question, how do u mean he ruled by iron fist, how u mean iron fist, u said he never really meant a one africa, why then did he invest so much money in africa. thank goodness no everyone share ur cnn view of gadaffi

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I like how she believes African leaders and the African people are actually controlling who is in power. She thinks they have independence.

Builder:

Gadaffi is my views and prolly majority of Africans is african true leader anda true warrior. his only crime is his unwavering support for pan- africanism. some folks here say he oppressed and suppressed, killed his people, all im saying is this, provide me with some evidence, or link or something, or shut up for good, he ruled for 42 years, so freaking what, the quuen of england been there for centuries, same as the king of saudi and bahrain and some of the useless african leaders like eyadema of togo, omar bongo of gabon etc.

African leaders should be shamed of themselves, this was a man that invest heavily in their economy so that they can be free from the shackles of colonmentality and aparthied, a man who helps africa when african needed him, but when he needed africa, they turn their backs on him. RIP GAddaffi

Gaddafi's hands were all over the Pan Am lockerbie bombing, over 100 people died on that flight, and you freaks worship him, what a shame.

The plan to take down Col Gaddafi has long been in the pipeline.

I watched some videos where a former US General claimed that  America had a plan to take out seven countries in five years- Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran.

The invasion of Libya via the UN and the 2003 Iraq invasion were both done on March 19.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoFGqftTc7c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuVVml5Dp2s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeqfkmSFeOc

Lmao, independence from what? Colonialism NEVER ended in Africa, and it seems like a lot of people don't realize that!

r u in nyc? we should get together sometime my like minded friend.

Now that Gadaffi is gone, what's next for libya?

OhmstAR:

Now that Gadaffi is gone, what's next for libya?

NTC will screw them over and they will be suffering.

Inked_Nerd:

@OP: Simple answer! All it means is that the United States government is doing what it always does. Pretty soon the African nations will just be extended states of the United States. Look at how they are invading other countries trying to be the global police. It is nothing more than neo-imperialism. Let's be serious here, do any of you actually believe that the US gives a damn about other countries?!?! All the crap that the American government does, if you switch roles and have other countries apply the same tactics, then it suddenly becomes a problem. You all need to sit down and read "The Chomsky Reader" by Noam Chomsky!

The reason why America is spending so much on resources is because if it doesn't then their economy will be destroyed.  Gas prices would go up, food prices, electronics, almost everything would go up.  People would spend less, so companies wouldn't make as much money.  People would be fired, crime would rise, America would be a hell hole.  Most of the people would leave.  The only way for America to stay rich is by keeping Africa poor.  That is why I heard people call having a resource is a curse. Black gold. People corrupt you,

[size=15pt]I'm getting a name tattoo of Gahdaffi. Seriously. He was my hero, he was brave and died a Martyr. Libya need to hold on a couple years to come to know what has befallen them.[/size]

Some Africans are really shallow minded folks with very low self esteem.
How on earth will a dictator who kill his fellow africans, fuel civil among his own "dearest africans" be called a Pan African. Little why it is only in Africa that you will get rulers who do not perform and yet have followers at there beck and call.
Oh Africa! You really deserve what you get. If only what you can do is support rulers who are like Ghadafi and turn at any slightest intervention from the west to accuse them of recolonization. Slave mentality! at any moment you remind yourself of what you are, a slave. Have you ever heard a master talking about how he will be enslaved? No ofcourse he not remind himself that he is a freeman.
Oh Africa what have you done with your so called freedom when one man ruled you for 42 years.
If any man in his right senses support Ghadafi, then he is among all men most miserable.   
@topic what his death mean to africa is that no one man is greater than his people. So all those rulers who think they can rule forever, lo end has come for them.

"Don't believe the hype. Gaddafi is being built up into a pantomime devil with plenty of accusations but very little objective factual evidence. He stood up to bully boy Western governments and the internationalists, defied the World Bank and Federal Reserve vampires and kept Libya debt free. And now he is dead. Join the dots"
culled from the dailymail

viv4viv, surely im one of the shallow minded folks u are referring to, but all im asking u is simple question, show me evidence he killed his people , prove kinks or anything, i wonder why some ignorant people just open flex their phalanges and type lies, false accusations, you dont have to like gadaffi but spreading propaganda lie is backward and just pure senceless. i can bet my life that there are many africans who will die to be ruled by gadaffi for 50 years plus than be rukes by some african democratically elected muppet.

below are some of the achievements of gadaffi, and whilest u still reading try andgetme prove that gadaffi killed someafricans

The living standards of Libyans have improved significantly since the 1970s, ranking the country among the highest in Africa. Urbanization, developmental projects, and high oil revenues have enabled the Libyan government to elevate its people's living standards. The social and economic status of women and children has particularly improved. Various subsidized or free services (health, education, housing, and basic foodstuffs) have ensured basic necessities. The low percentage of people without access to safe water (3 percent), health services (0 percent) and sanitation (2 percent), and a relatively high life expectancy (70.2 years) in 1998 indicate the improved living standards. Adequate health care and subsidized foodstuffs have sharply reduced infant mortality, from 105 per 1,000 live births in 1970 to 20 per 1,000 live births in 1998. The government also subsidizes education, which is compulsory and free between the ages of 6 and 15. The expansion of educational facilities has elevated the literacy rate (78.1 in 1998). There are universities in Tripoli, Benghazi, Marsa el-Brega, Misurata, Sebha, and Tobruq. Despite its successes, the educational system has failed to train adequate numbers of professionals, resulting in Libya's dependency on foreign teachers, doctors, and scientists.

Many direct and indirect subsidies and free services have helped raise the economic status of low-income families, a policy which has prevented extreme poverty. As part of its socialist model of economic development,



Read more: Libya Poverty and wealth, Information about Poverty and wealth in Libya http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/economies/Africa/Libya-POVERTY-AND-WEALTH.html#ixzz1bON7yj6k

Sincerely, i dont know.

to make lite[humor] the passing of the erstwhile dictatorship ruler of Libya,another word has just been added to everyday vocabulary, "Gaddafi-ism"another word for i go die there, and you actually do, its a simile to "Mario- ism"

it means Freedom for libyans.not sure how it will affect africa though.

There aint no freedom anywhere. . .

pity it ends with what would have been an amicable resolve and preservation of legacy of African Ruler-ship/ Dictatorship[or is it leadership they fane it] imagine, he ruled for over 40yrs, that had to be good for something,he would have offered some wealth of knowledge and ideas in rebuilding his country!only, if he knew when to leave,but like most African leaders that have tolled the dictatorship line after liberating his country as a young leader. Well as they say: just die there!, hmmmmmmm
Oh dear Gaddafi!

he was know to refer to people as rats, the irony is, he was last seen like a rat, smoke out of a sewer, life is a boomerang atimes,lol!

vic4vi:

Some Africans are really shallow minded folks with very low self esteem.
How on earth will a dictator who kill his fellow africans, fuel civil among his own "dearest africans" be called a Pan African. Little why it is only in Africa that you will get rulers who do not perform and yet have followers at there beck and call.
Oh Africa! You really deserve what you get. If only what you can do is support rulers who are like Ghadafi and turn at any slightest intervention from the west to accuse them of recolonization. Slave mentality! at any moment you remind yourself of what you are, a slave. Have you ever heard a master talking about how he will be enslaved? No ofcourse he not remind himself that he is a freeman.
Oh Africa what have you done with your so called freedom when one man ruled you for 42 years.
If any man in his right senses support Ghadafi, then he is among all men most miserable.   
@topic what his death mean to africa is that no one man is greater than his people. So all those rulers who think they can rule forever, lo end has come for them.

i thnk ur one of them,western spy!,i was saying that before but not any more, africans cant be this daft! What the west want is oil oil and oil,even if it means the source of the oil killing themselves, they dont care. Is not last year that mandela's name was removed frm terrorist list, its very simple the west only put thier stinking fingers where is oil.42 years and so what! Since 1960 we've been havivg rotational clueless leaders dividing and sharing the whole national cake among themselves. There are other african leaders who has stayed long, eyadama and co-they are still there because their countries have no oil,oil.some shallow minded people said there is nothing like freedom! Please o are we free here in 9ja?, is our govt trasparent like that of Gaddafi's ,are you getting any kobo from 9ja oil? are you free from boko haram? Are you free from tribalism? My dear libyans were the pople enjoying real fredom.to be frank, nigerian can have a leaderwho can tranform nigeria to want we want, free education, constant electricty, good health care and better live. nigeria will tell the person to rule forever

vic4vi:

Some Africans are really shallow minded folks with very low self esteem.
How on earth will a dictator who kill his fellow africans, fuel civil among his own "dearest africans" be called a Pan African. Little why it is only in Africa that you will get rulers who do not perform and yet have followers at there beck and call.
Oh Africa! You really deserve what you get. If only what you can do is support rulers who are like Ghadafi and turn at any slightest intervention from the west to accuse them of recolonization. Slave mentality! at any moment you remind yourself of what you are, a slave. Have you ever heard a master talking about how he will be enslaved? No ofcourse he not remind himself that he is a freeman.
Oh Africa what have you done with your so called freedom when one man ruled you for 42 years.
If any man in his right senses support Ghadafi, then he is among all men most miserable.   
@topic what his death mean to africa is that no one man is greater than his people. So all those rulers who think they can rule forever, lo end has come for them.

i thnk ur one of them,western spy!,i was saying that before but not any more,we are not stupid , africans cant be this daft! What the west want is oil oil and oil,even if it means the source  of the oil killing themselves, they dont care. Is it not last year that mandela's name was removed frm terrorist list, its very simple the west only put thier stinking fingers where is oil.42 years and so what! Since 1960  we've been havivg rotational clueless leaders dividing and sharing the whole national cake among themselves.  There are other african leaders who has stayed long, eyadama and co-they are still there because their countries have no oil,oil.some shallow minded people said there is nothing like freedom! Please o are we free here in 9ja?, is our govt trasparent like that of Gaddafi's ,are you getting any kobo from 9ja oil? are you free from boko haram? Are you free from tribalism? My dear libyans were the pople enjoying real fredom.to be frank,if  nigeria can have a leader who can  tranform nigeria to want we want, free education, constant electricty, good health care and better life that of libya. nigeria will tell even the person to rule forever. africa, we should change our mentality oh.we should think 3 dimensionally!