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Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by koruji(m): 12:28am On Oct 26, 2011
Nigeria’s Constitution, A Fraud -fashola

Quote: He insisted that it would be difficult for the local governments to carry out their statutory functions of free health and free education at the primary school level, adding that they had been left with payment of salaries alone.

Most local government areas don't even know the meaning of road-building.

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/30249-nigerias-constitution-a-fraud-fashola
Written by Shola Adekola, Lagos Wednesday, 26 October 2011

LAGOS State governor,  Mr  Babatunde Fashola, has condemned the constitution of Nigeria, describing it as fraud.

Speaking at the presidential wing of the Murtala Muhammed Airport, Ikeja, Lagos, on Tuesday, on arrival from Abuja, Fashola said the only way the impact of the local government areas in the country could be felt by the people was for the constitution to be amended in their favour.

The governor described a situation whereby the Federal Government took the lion’s share of the  revenue allocation as unrealistic, adding that both the states and the local governments were left to share a paltry 48 per cent, which, he said, was inadequate to take care of the challenges at the state level.

He said if the government at the federal level was working assiduously with all the resources at its disposal, the agony Nigerians were allegedly experiencing would have been minimal, while challenging journalists to carry out independent analysis on the pulse of the people on the activities of the Federal Government over the years.

He insisted that it would be difficult for the local governments to carry out their statutory functions of free health and free education at the primary school level, adding that they had been left with payment of salaries alone.

“Now, which is the government that is closest and most impactful to the people? But sadly, it is the government that has the least revenue,” he said.

Fashola said the appropriation law prescribed about N240 billion for 2011 for subsidies, adding that as of September, the country had exceeded the approved amount by an additional N1.2 trillion.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by okadaman2: 12:39am On Oct 26, 2011
MNN expressed it very well months ago.

If you have anything Nigerian in you. You need to watch that YouTube video


The Nigerian constitution is a forgery - MNN

The Constitution started with "We the people hereby agree"


some transcribed points from the video below:

But We did not agree to give The President and 36 Governors immunity

We the people couldn't have agreed to give the key of the treasury to the executive branch

Nigeria has become a criminal enterprise where few people are using a forged document to rule 150Million people

We cannot be united by fraud and forgery

Nigerians have been calling for a Sovereign national conference but those who have secured themselves in Abuja have refused to listen

Who created the 36 states? Few Military elites!

Who created the 68 item exclusive lists in the Constitution that prevented a state like Lagos from generating her own electricity, do her own rail and manage her own sea port?

Less that 1% of the country's population has 90% of the assets of the country and you cannot break in, you are locked out!

Somebody will sit in Abuja and say he's (IG) Inspector General of Police for a state like Imo, how is that sensible? how will he know how things work locally in Mushin?

We cannot be bound by force for all times!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjuEaKTpZ4g[

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjuEaKTpZ4g[/flash]

^^

You need to watch that video.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by okadaman2: 12:42am On Oct 26, 2011
More here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-743963.0.html

Of course it is a fraud made and signed by Abdusalami and the 9ja/MNC Oil Princes.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by ektbear: 9:45am On Oct 26, 2011
Interesting
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Kilode1: 1:48pm On Oct 26, 2011
This is actually what we should be discussing. Fundamentals!

It should be on the Homepage.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Beaf: 2:14pm On Oct 26, 2011
We all know that the Nigerian constitution is a fraud, but there are chasms of a fundamental nature to be crossed before the parties reach a concensus. In fact several fraudulent concepts of "true federalism" have been flying around, at least one of these has been backed by Fashola himself in the past, so we need to be careful when analysing his statement. We must be on guard that the concept of true federalism is not hijacked and bastardised by politicians; it is the last hope for Nigeria and the man on the street.

True federalism in its unadulterated form, would give the states and LGA's a great degree of legal and financial autonomy, such that local cultures, beliefs and practices are preserved on the one hand. One the other, it would ensure that every federating unit becomes self sustaining, with the LGA's being the primary generators of wealth and providing govt that is truly close to the people.
In the above scenario, the LGA's would pay taxes to the states and the states would pay taxes to the FG.

Now here is the catch in Fashola's former position (which he seems to have either shifted from or is expressing a willingness to shift from); he and his party have termed true federalism to be not much more than the FG giving the states more money. In other words, the FG would become even stronger as it weilds bigger purse strings (payments to states and LG's is entirely at the FG's whim, it isn't detailed in the constitution). That position quickly got support from governors across the board, because it is an even shorter cut to corruption than what exists today.

I am impressed that Fashola mentioned empowering the LG's with more money, because that represents a meeting of of minds with GEJ's stance that he would only alter the revenue sharing formula for the benefit of LGA's. In other words, less money will go to the FG, less will go to the states, but much more will go to the LGA's.
It is easy to see how this approach would stymie corruption; there will be no more any massive ammounts of money in any centralised location for politicians to steal and more importantly, the LGA boss will be a local person; you know where they live and who their kids are, if they don't perform, you simply take petrol and matches and burn down their house (which would be just down the street).
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Gbawe: 3:03pm On Oct 26, 2011
Less that 1% of the country's population has 90% of the assets of the country and you cannot break in, you are locked out!

Somebody will sit in Abuja and say he's (IG) Inspector General of Police for a state like Imo, how is that sensible? how will he know how things work locally in Mushin?

We cannot be bound by force for all times!

The main problem we face is not lack of ideas on how to amend the constitution and make it vastly better and more efficient at addressing the current challenges Nigeria face. The main problem is highlighted in bold above i.e less than 1% of Nigerians control 90% of the asset of the Nation. That balance means that ordinary Nigerians , unless they wake up to their civic empowerment, simply don't have the money or influential position with which to change the status quo. Let us not forget that many of the less than 1% fashola mentioned are happy for things to stay as they are. look at how skillfully they have now relegated the PIB to the back burner despite telling us , as an election carrot, that the bill will be passed before the expiration of the last Republic. If Nigerians don't force them to pass the PIB , in a potent form, then most are perfectly happy for "business as usual" to continue.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by PointB: 3:07pm On Oct 26, 2011
A much immediate fraud is Fashola paying Tinubu N2 billion naira of tax payers money every month. Think of how many medical centres that can be upgraded with that that amount. Just imagine!
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Kilode1: 4:14pm On Oct 26, 2011
Beaf, Yes. But I don't think we need to fix revenue sharing sef, we just need to "troway the nonsense" for ocean.

What we need is revenue contribution, let each Federating units (whichever way we agree to constitute them) take charge of their revenue receipts -yes including oil. Then contribute to the center based on agreed-to terms( for national welfare and defense)

Cities, LG and to a small extent, States, should be the first point of revenue collection. We are all being duped right now.

Anyway, like Gbawe said, ideas are not the issue, dem plenty. The issue is political will to do the right thing. That one scarce die.  undecided
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by demmy8: 4:40pm On Oct 26, 2011
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Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Dede1(m): 4:47pm On Oct 26, 2011
Nigerians are not comedians alone but also patented jokers. Does it take a Nigerian to ascend to the position of governor of a state to realize the country named Nigeria is a living fraud along with worthless bundle of sheets of paper called constitution?
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by tunnytox(m): 4:51pm On Oct 26, 2011
While it is a good idea to make more funds available to LGs there is also a need for re-orientation of these LGs on what governance is all about. They should be made to know that LG funds are not meant to pay salaries and shared among themselves.
The little they are getting now how are they spending it? Some of these LG chairmen are ordinary agbero,their own might even be worse if care is not taken.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by ak47mann(m): 5:14pm On Oct 26, 2011
Nigeria is a fake country we saw these 43 yrs ago cool cool
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by UyiIredia(m): 5:16pm On Oct 26, 2011
@ topic >>> Agreed The problem is how to rectify it. Who will bell the cat ?
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Olaone1: 5:22pm On Oct 26, 2011
Not only the constitution . . . . everything is
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by eghost247(m): 5:23pm On Oct 26, 2011
PointB:

A much immediate fraud is Fashola paying Tinubu N2 billion naira of tax payers money every month. Think of how many medical centres that can be upgraded with that that amount. Just imagine!
[size=13pt]i would be happy if u showed us some proof to backup your claims[/size]
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Nobody: 5:31pm On Oct 26, 2011
Beaf:

We all know that the Nigerian constitution is a fraud, but there are chasms of a fundamental nature to be crossed before the parties reach a concensus. In fact several fraudulent concepts of "true federalism" have been flying around, at least one of these has been backed by Fashola himself in the past, so we need to be careful when analysing his statement. We must be on guard that the concept of true federalism is not hijacked and bastardised by politicians; it is the last hope for Nigeria and the man on the street.

True federalism in its unadulterated form, would give the states and LGA's a great degree of legal and financial autonomy, such that local cultures, beliefs and practices are preserved on the one hand. One the other, it would ensure that every federating unit becomes self sustaining, with the LGA's being the primary generators of wealth and providing govt that is truly close to the people.
In the above scenario, the LGA's would pay taxes to the states and the states would pay taxes to the FG.

Now here is the catch in Fashola's former position (which he seems to have either shifted from or is expressing a willingness to shift from); he and his party have termed true federalism to be not much more than the FG giving the states more money. In other words, the FG would become even stronger as it weilds bigger purse strings (payments to states and LG's is entirely at the FG's whim, it isn't detailed in the constitution). That position quickly got support from governors across the board, because it is an even shorter cut to corruption than what exists today.

I am impressed that Fashola mentioned empowering the LG's with more money, because that represents a meeting of of minds with GEJ's stance that he would only alter the revenue sharing formula for the benefit of LGA's. In other words, less money will go to the FG, less will go to the states, but much more will go to the LGA's.
It is easy to see how this approach would stymie corruption; there will be no more any massive ammounts of money in any centralised location for politicians to steal and more importantly, the LGA boss will be a local person; you know where they live and who their kids are, if they don't perform, you simply take petrol and matches and burn down their house (which would be just down the street). 



Are you kidding me? Even local pastors know the best form of security is those drunken Mopol men. I laugh in Wazobia, This isn't about corruption, it never will be.  As long there is Nigeria, there would be corruption. We've never had a money issue, we've had spending issues. It's not about FG, SG or LG. It's just the Government.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by iykak47: 5:34pm On Oct 26, 2011
Our  problem is it the constitution itself or the operators of the constitution? after all UK has no written constitution. The bad governance Nigeria is having  today has little or nothing to do with the constitution. I want to ask oga fashola if the alleged rigging of LG election  in Lagos state was caused by a  fraudulent constitution?
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Nobody: 5:36pm On Oct 26, 2011
I smell revolution coming soon when Jonathan make the Senate approval the removal of the subsidy after they embezzle all the money in Abuja with Ghana Must Go, sorry the big sack bag
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Beaf: 5:36pm On Oct 26, 2011
Kilode?!:

Beaf, Yes. But I don't think we need to fix revenue sharing sef, we just need to "troway the nonsense" for ocean.

What we need is revenue contribution, let each Federating units (whichever way we agree to constitute them) take charge of their revenue receipts -yes including oil. Then contribute to the center based on agreed-to terms( for national welfare and defense)

Cities, LG and to a small extent, States, should be the first point of revenue collection. We are all being duped right now.

Anyway, like Gbawe said, ideas are not the issue, dem plenty. The issue is political will to do the right thing. That one scarce die.  undecided

The political will is far from lacking, but the fightback of the enemies of the nation is sophisticated and concerted. Part of their bag of tricks as I mentioned earlier, is to take terms like "true federalism" and obfuscate their meanings so that the people are deceived and energised in a fight against themselves, instead of against the system.
The only way forward for the lovers of the country is to avoid head on battles, but quarter and trap these sophisticated operators in their own bile. It is encouraging that Fashola is beginning to find his real voice and sing a different song from Tinubu; instead of demanding more federal money to the states, he is talking about empowering the LG's. Fashola could indeed become a useful ally in the true federalism trenches.

As for banning revenue sharing, that is really not workable (maybe even inhuman), except it comes in phases. And while that is going on, those areas would need to be financially supported to stand on their own feet.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Gbenge77(m): 5:44pm On Oct 26, 2011
The unvarnished truth.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by aribisala0(m): 5:45pm On Oct 26, 2011
Gbawe:

The main problem we face is not lack of ideas on how to amend the constitution and make it vastly better and more efficient at addressing the current challenges Nigeria face. The main problem is highlighted in bold above i.e[b] less than 1% of Nigerians control 90% of the asset of the Nation. [/b]That balance means that ordinary Nigerians , unless they wake up to their civic empowerment, simply don't have the money or influential position with which to change the status quo. Let us not forget that many of the less than 1% fashola mentioned are happy for things to stay as they are. look at how skillfully they have now relegated the PIB to the back burner despite telling us , as an election carrot, that the bill will be passed before the expiration of the last Republic. If Nigerians don't force them to pass the PIB , in a potent form, then most are perfectly happy for "business as usual" to continue.

everyone is an armchair expert[b]

less than 1% of Nigerians control 90% of the asset of the Nation. [/b]

where   is  the EVIDENCE for this fantastic claim?? how do we know this?
even if  it were true why is it a "problem"
i believe it is only a problem if that particular state of affairs came about by foul means  and then those foul means would be the problem not the percentage wealth distribution

what is the prescribed level where it is NOT a problem

is it being advocated that where foul means are not identified wealth is simply redistributed according to this prescribed fornula and then all shall be well
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by ibide(m): 5:47pm On Oct 26, 2011
Let him keep his dirty mount short like my stupid idiot , cryzy & and mad governor of my state delta state why is't that they will only make noise whenever federal didot thier money visionless political criminals ,animals fooss
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by denitro(m): 5:48pm On Oct 26, 2011
I totally disagree,  If the allocation for the local government was increased, it would
result in more looting for the chairmen.
There is a saying, "If ye are faithful in little things, then ye shall be faithful with Bigger things"

Instead the Local Government should be audited more often, the climate should be harsh for
elected chairmen who want to loot,
When I see the level of corruption within each L.G.A I weep for Nigerians,
A L.G.A Chairman spends his tenure looting, fighting his enemies and doing everything else
except the very reasons he was elected in the 1st place,
After his tenure, he is then re-elected based on merit appointment,
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Olaone1: 5:49pm On Oct 26, 2011
Beaf:

The political will is far from lacking, but the fightback of the enemies of the nation is sophisticated and concerted.  

Beaf . . . Beaf
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Nobody: 5:50pm On Oct 26, 2011
ibide:

Let him keep his dirty mount short like my silly  , cryzy & and mad governor of my state delta state why is't that they will only make noise whenever federal didot thier money  visionless political criminals ,animals fooss
Even mad men look before they cross.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by manny4life(m): 5:58pm On Oct 26, 2011
I do NOT in anyway support that the Nigerian Constitution is "Fraud"; however, I should say it's FLAWED to a great extent --- from its beginning to its end. I do not support Fashola's view, I believe in true federalism. Every state should contribute to the FG based upon their resource / revenue. Powers should be delegated to states to decide what to do and how to deal with jurisdictions within their states. I do also believe that the FG should allocate money to states (not municipalities like LG) a single line items to assist them rather than an obligation. States should reserve the rights to make majority of decisions that affect the people.
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by OhmstAR(m): 6:07pm On Oct 26, 2011
Nigeria means FRAUD, What more can come up from a fraudulent country
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by ibide(m): 6:10pm On Oct 26, 2011
Why must they clamour for their local government fund only or the so cal s w fund while the areal that allow illitrate to make law to professor , police killing innorcentt peopl as they kill my only elder brother at ijebu if in ogun state governor & president embezo money till they live office is not a criminal offence we can never get it rigth until we turn dis nation up side down in jan 2012
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by ibide(m): 6:16pm On Oct 26, 2011
Why must they clamour for their local government fund only or the so cal s w fund while the areal that allow illitrate to make law to professor , police killing innorcentt peopl as they kill my only elder brother at ijebu if in ogun state governor & president embezo money till they live office is not a criminal offence we can never get it rigth until we turn dis nation up side down in jan 2012
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by WebSurfer(m): 6:17pm On Oct 26, 2011
;d ;d ;d ;d
Re: Nigeria’s Constitution Is A Fraud - Fashola by Beaf: 6:21pm On Oct 26, 2011
manny4life:

I do NOT in anyway support that the Nigerian Constitution is "Fraud"; however, I should say it's FLAWED to a great extent --- from its beginning to its end. I do not support Fashola's view, I believe in true federalism. Every state should contribute to the FG based upon their resource / revenue. Powers should be delegated to states to decide what to do and how to deal with jurisdictions within their states. I do also believe that the FG should allocate money to states (not municipalities like LG) a single line items to assist them rather than an obligation. States should reserve the rights to make majority of decisions that affect the people.

Strangely, in the US where you are, municipalities powerplants actually build schools, roads and bridges and take care of the everyday needs of citizens. The power station below is part owned by the Oklahoma Municipal Power Authority (one of about 8 ).



So why can't we do things properly in Nigeria and empower LG's as is done all across the developed World? We need to make the staes and FG less important and much weaker if we are to make any progress and develop. anything less will see us walking in circles.

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