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Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by lexy2014: 9:14pm On Dec 31, 2023
onuman:



Are you a northern Nigerian?

Note that regional government system can reduce the violence in Nigeria but cannot end it.
Nigeria is practising a roguish form of unitary government system because of crude oil and gas deposits in the Niger delta, because the inhabitants of the oil producing areas are ever divided among their tiny ethnic groups.

that is not what I asked.

1. how will regional governance just automatically confer on regions the knowledge and wisdom to know the best way to manage their affairs?

2. is Nigeria not presently practicing "regional governance"?

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Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by seguno2: 9:15pm On Dec 31, 2023
LagosG:
Atiku is trying to become a special adviser to Jagaban

Was Tinubu being a special adviser to Jonathan when he, Fayemi and other APC members opposed petrol price deregulation in 2012, which Fayemi now says was just politically game
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by LastProphet: 9:17pm On Dec 31, 2023
Eliminate indigenes at the rural area levels, dont bother with urban areas because they belong to no one after all. That is the strategy playing out. Plateau Governor and others you can go back to your slumber now
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by djkirkoo2(m): 9:43pm On Dec 31, 2023
LagosG:
Atiku is trying to become a special adviser to Jagaban
are you sure you are OK upstairs?

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Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by Mrexcell(m): 9:48pm On Dec 31, 2023
These bloodthirsty fulani killers are just taking advantage of the current political structure of nigeria to cause mayhem in nigeria there's absolutely no way they can be able to operate so freely like this if nigeria is restructured.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by bentenny(m): 9:59pm On Dec 31, 2023
sleek214:
My man The man Obi, Kwakwanso, Wike and INEC joined forces to stop from the coveted price (Also Villa)
You still remain my choice, anyday, anytime
This is completely illogical!
If Obi and kwakwaso were inconsequential and had no structure like most of you were boasting before the election why are you blaming them for PDP and atiku's loss?
After going against the party's own constitution by bringing in another northerner,you still want everyone in pdp who think they have been marginalized to still support the party?
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by TopBanter: 10:09pm On Dec 31, 2023
mrvitalis:
The only way to stop this attack is simple

Local government backed police... Simple

Can't work. No money to finance it to serve optimally as an efficient, motivated, modern, intelligence-based, well-equipped and well-trained security force.

Enough of vigilante units and comical mushroom police support forces and complementary units that are ill-trained, poorly equipped, unaccountable and pathetic overall.

Most things fail in Nigeria because we proliferate everything due to a myopic focus on quantity rather than quality.

We have far more small and unfit schools, Universities, Churches, private health clinics, supermarkets etc without creating many truly great and outstanding version of any of the above.

It is regional policing, which every region can afford, that we need. Every serious region that is sincere about ending insecurity that limits economic growth and prosperity can rigorously recruit, adequately train and optimally equip motivated and patriotic indigenes to safeguard the lands they have good knowledge of and affinity for.

If Nigeria is to improve we must learn the concept of "what is worth doing is worth doing well". Use the best version of everything to get the best results.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by Nicepoker(m): 10:24pm On Dec 31, 2023
lexy2014:


who are the people that will be doing all this? will it be angels? will regional governance automatically confer wisdom and knowledge to know the best way to govern the regions?

how has the FG keep deploying the same method all over the country?

how should "terrain, language and culture barriers" automatically prevent a man from Kano from efficiently overseeing security challenges in Ekiti state?

you seem to have avoided answering this question...2. is Nigeria not presently practicing "regional governance"?

we are not practicing regional governance. You keep on doing the same thing the same way and expecting different results. Since 1999 the previous government have always been doing better than the present. You are asking me if regional governance will automatically confer wisdom and knowledge. Go and read about when we had regional governance then you will understand better.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by LagosG: 12:44am On Jan 01
seguno2:


Was Tinubu being a special adviser to Jonathan when he, Fayemi and other APC members opposed petrol price deregulation in 2012, which Fayemi now says was just politically game
Dem no dey sell sense of humour for market otherwise you for get small
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by lndigene(m): 12:50am On Jan 01
Only the creation of State Police shall mitigate the insecurity situation in Nigeria.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by seunayantokun(m): 3:52am On Jan 01
He has said nothing instead of being specific. How do you want security architecture to be expanded? Is Atiku not aware that local and state governments cannot enforce the law as governments are expected to do? Are they not supposed to have their own police forces? Why cannot everyone shout it loud and clear? Why do all governments depend on compromised federal security outfits?

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Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by Quintessence44: 4:19am On Jan 01
Biola67:
Imagine bandit killing people in one part of California… how does it sound?

THEY HAVE MORE KILLERS IN CALIFORNIA THAN ALL OF NIGERIA COMBINED.

THEY'RE JUST NOT CALLED 'BANDITS'.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by Originalsly: 4:51am On Jan 01
Dpharisee:


Engage foreign mercenaries like Wagner of Russia which doesn't know the difference between Hausas and Igbos or Berom and Fulani but can fish out criminal elements and dispatch them to the world beyond if necessary because of internal saboteurs and compromised officers recruited from the ranks of terrorists into the military as rehabilitation scheme for 'repentant' militants by the last administration.


Didn't Jonathan do this during the last days as President? ... and Buhari shut it down immediately after taking office? We know it works and can lead to the sponsors.... who are suspected to be higher ups in the government. Tinubu knows the solution ... but doesn't have the balls to all that shot for fear of his life. Personally.... there is no other solution ... greed and corruption is like an epidemic affecting almost everyone in the country .... no boundaries. Atiku is right ... the FG doesn't have the will to seriously confront this problem
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by Quintessence44: 5:07am On Jan 01
WE NEED LOCALISED POLICING.

FAILING THAT, DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE SIZE OF THE FEDERAL ARMY AND POLICE.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by PussyKing(m): 6:14am On Jan 01
jumokeadele:
Put cctv camera everywhere like other countries , only tech can solve security problem
Aboki kwandem go Thief everything in few weeks

This country cant work divide it let every tribe go deal with themselves
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by lexy2014: 6:50am On Jan 01
Nicepoker:
we are not practicing regional governance. You keep on doing the same thing the same way and expecting different results. Since 1999 the previous government have always been doing better than the present. You are asking me if regional governance will automatically confer wisdom and knowledge. Go and read about when we had regional governance then you will understand better.

if you say Nigeria is not practicing regional practice, what are the 36 states and what are their functions ad what is Nigeria practicing?

yes am asking you " if regional governance will automatically confer wisdom and knowledge on how to govern a region". for some one who has read "regional governance" u say we had, am surprised that you cant answer the question. its a simple ye or no.

how this fit into the discussion..."Since 1999 the previous government have always been doing better than the present"?

what is it that you say Nigeria keeps doing and expecting a different result?
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by lexy2014: 6:53am On Jan 01
jumokeadele:
Put cctv camera everywhere like other countries , only tech can solve security problem

is it the cctv that catch the perpetrators of the crime?

how is tech the only solution to Nigeria's security problems?
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by lexy2014: 6:54am On Jan 01
PussyKing:

Aboki kwandem go Thief everything in few weeks

This country cant work divide it let every tribe go deal with themselves

is it because Nigeria is not divided that it is not working?
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by lexy2014: 6:56am On Jan 01
bentenny:

This is completely illogical!
If Obi and kwakwaso were inconsequential and had no structure like most of you were boasting before the election why are you blaming them for PDP and atiku's loss?
After going against the party's own constitution by bringing in another northerner,you still want everyone in pdp who think they have been marginalized to still support the party?

who were those that were marginalised in PDP?

who marginalised them?

who brought in another northerner and how was it against the party's constitution?
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by merits(m): 7:56am On Jan 01
jumokeadele:
Put cctv camera everywhere like other countries , only tech can solve security problem


You don't know the terrain of those places that is why you made mentioned of CCTV cameras.I know those places well even surveillance drones or aircraft would suffer to track any culprit in those terrains.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by bentenny(m): 8:19am On Jan 01
lexy2014:


who were those that were marginalised in PDP?

who marginalised them?

who brought in another northerner and how was it against the party's constitution?
If you were a pdp member and you really knew your own constitution you won't be asking these questions!
There is a rotational policy contained in pdp bylaws where the presidency goes to the north or the south!
2023 was the turn of the south but some elders in pdp allowed moneybags to make them jettison their own laws!
At the end of the day,what do you have?
A divided house!
When a party is hell-bent on bringing a northerner as the presidential flagbearer of the party knowing fully well that a northerner from another party is already rounding up 8 years is simply marginalization because your are simply depriving other regions of their own opportunity just to accommodate Atiku!
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by jumokeadele(m): 8:25am On Jan 01
Try to google the land mass of canada , then compare it to nigeria , then check the population of canada . If you do any how in those country, trust me camera will carry you  
merits:



You don't the terrain of those places that is why you made mentioned of CCTV cameras.I know those places well even surveillance drones aircraft would suffer to track any culprit in those terrains.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by lexy2014: 8:26am On Jan 01
bentenny:

If you were a pdp member and you really knew your own constitution you won't be asking these questions!
There is a rotational policy contained in pdp bylaws where the presidency goes to the north or the south!
2023 was the turn of the south but some elders in pdp allowed moneybags to make them jettison their own laws!
At the end of the day,what do you have?
A divided house!
When a party is hell-bent on bringing a northerner as the presidential flagbearer of the party knowing fully well that a northerner from another party is already rounding up 8 years is simply marginalization because your are simply depriving other regions of their own opportunity just to accommodate Atiku!

that is not what I asked you.

1. who were those that were marginalised in PDP?

2. who marginalised them?

3. who brought in another northerner and how was it against the party's constitution?
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by merits(m): 8:49am On Jan 01
jumokeadele:
Try to google the land mass of canada , then compare it to nigeria , then check the population of canada . If you do any how in those country, trust me camera will carry you  

First ask yourself did your government have bio-data of everyone and data analysis of every part of the country, because you are comparing Nigeria with countries that are far,far ahead of us.Let me tell you if you don't know Nigeria is a satellite 📡 country.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by jumokeadele(m): 9:01am On Jan 01
well it doesn't stop the fact that only tech can solve security problem in Nigeria, there's no point trying to debunk it. No matter how small they want to start it , if it is by starting with the database and bio-data as you mentioned, or mounting cctv at every part of the country , including drons everywhere. These will still go along way to solving the problem.


merits:


First ask yourself did your government have bio-data of everyone and data analysis of every part of the country, because you are comparing Nigeria with countries that are far,far ahead of us.Let me tell you if you don't know Nigeria is a satellite 📡 country.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by Nicepoker(m): 9:47am On Jan 01
lexy2014:


if you say Nigeria is not practicing regional practice, what are the 36 states and what are their functions ad what is Nigeria practicing?

yes am asking you " if regional governance will automatically confer wisdom and knowledge on how to govern a region". for some one who has read "regional governance" u say we had, am surprised that you cant answer the question. its a simple ye or no.

how this fit into the discussion..."Since 1999 the previous government have always been doing better than the present"?

what is it that you say Nigeria keeps doing and expecting a different result?
we are practicing federal system. Not regional. In regional governance you will have regional governors and premiers not state governors.

YES .if we go back to regional governance ideologies of each regions will be better understood.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by lexy2014: 10:06am On Jan 01
Nicepoker:
we are practicing federal system. Not regional. In regional governance you will have regional governors and premiers not state governors.

YES .if we go back to regional governance ideologies of each regions will be better understood.

are you sure you know what a federal system of government is?

if you say Nigeria is practicing a federal system of government, how does that now mean that Nigeria is not practicing regional governance?

what is the difference between a state as it is today and a region has Nigeria had in the first republic in terms of functions?

what is the difference between a premier in the first republic and a governor as it is today in terms of functions?

what are those "regional governance ideologies" that you say I should go back to and who formulated those ideologies?

what is it that you say Nigeria keeps doing and expecting a different result?
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by Nicepoker(m): 10:48am On Jan 01
lexy2014:


are you sure you know what a federal system of government is?

if you say Nigeria is practicing a federal system of government, how does that now mean that Nigeria is not practicing regional governance?

what is the difference between a state as it is today and a region has Nigeria had in the first republic in terms of functions?

what is the difference between a premier in the first republic and a governor as it is today in terms of functions?

what are those "regional governance ideologies" that you say I should go back to and who formulated those ideologies?

what is it that you say Nigeria keeps doing and expecting a different result?
let me ask you a question. Lots if Nigerians know the country's problems few know the solution. What's the way out bring your own solution .
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by lexy2014: 10:49am On Jan 01
Nicepoker:
let me ask you a question. Lots if Nigerians know the country's problems few know the solution. What's the way out bring your own solution .

you have not answered my questions.

1. are you sure you know what a federal system of government is?

2. if you say Nigeria is practicing a federal system of government, how does that now mean that Nigeria is not practicing regional governance?

3. what is the difference between a state as it is today and a region has Nigeria had in the first republic in terms of functions?

4. what is the difference between a premier in the first republic and a governor as it is today in terms of functions?

5. what are those "regional governance ideologies" that you say I should go back to and who formulated those ideologies?

6. what is it that you say Nigeria keeps doing and expecting a different result?
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by Boldideas: 1:00pm On Jan 01
Dpharisee:
Reorganise the military like Obasanjo did, redeploy commanders planted by Buhari in certain areas to protect Fulani interests.

Engage foreign mercenaries like Wagner of Russia which doesn't know the difference between Hausas and Igbos or Berom and Fulani but can fish out criminal elements and dispatch them to the world beyond if necessary because of internal saboteurs and compromised officers recruited from the ranks of terrorists into the military as rehabilitation scheme for 'repentant' militants by the last administration.

Consult some retired officers like General Ihejirika on how they dealt with the bandits and Boko Haram that even shocked Buhari to a point he declared that attack on Boko Haram is attack on the North and Elrufai and northern elders threatened to take Ihejirika to ICC for committing 'genocide' (meaning excessive killing of Boko Haram)

Convert the likes of Amotekun to well equipped State Police to be controlled jointly by State and federal govt to reduce misuse by State governors at the onset.
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by bentenny(m): 1:32pm On Jan 01
lexy2014:


that is not what I asked you.

1. who were those that were marginalised in PDP?

2. who marginalised them?

3. who brought in another northerner and how was it against the party's constitution?
If you cannot read to comprehend my last submissions then I'm afraid I cannot help you!
When a northerner from another party rules for 8 years,where do you think the presidency should be zoned to?
If a party cannot abide by their own constitution then they should bear the consequences of their actions and stop looking for who to blame for the cause of their own downfall!
Shey they said Peter Obi had no political structure and cannot win in his polling unit!
Shey they said kwakwaso was just like Peter Obi because he had no structure.....
Keep blaming Obi and kwakwaso for your party's failure to understand that the country is not only for the north!
Pride indeed comes before a fall!
Re: How FG Can Stop Killings In Plateau, Others — Atiku by lexy2014: 2:04pm On Jan 01
bentenny:

If you cannot read to comprehend my last submissions then I'm afraid I cannot help you!
When a northerner from another party rules for 8 years,where do you think the presidency should be zoned to?
If a party cannot abide by their own constitution then they should bear the consequences of their actions and stop looking for who to blame for the cause of their own downfall!
Shey they said Peter Obi had no political structure and cannot win in his polling unit!
Shey they said kwakwaso was just like Peter Obi because he had no structure.....
Keep blaming Obi and kwakwaso for your party's failure to understand that the country is not only for the north!
Pride indeed comes before a fall!

that is not what I asked you. pls try again and answer as enumerated.

1. who were those that were marginalised in PDP?

2. who marginalised them?

3. who brought in another northerner and how was it against the party's constitution?

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