mkmyers45: Two people translating a verse differently? Hmmmn "'O, People of the Book! Ye have no
ground to stand upon unless ye
stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord.' It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy ... those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures), and the Sabaeans and the Christians - any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, - on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." (Sura 5:71-72). (My emphasis). Please quote us you Sura 5:71

mazaje:

Yes, you need an original document to show a corrupted one. . .Christians print from the copies of the once they claim to be the original one just like muslims print from the copies of the ones they also claim to be the original one. . .Again where is allah's original bible so that we can compare it with the one muslims claim is corrupt and differentiate from the two. . Was it eaten by camels under aisha's bed?. . .

mazaje:
Very interesting that it is only stories that are written in details in the binle that happen to be also written in details in the koran. . .Allah reveals or Mohammed and his cronies plagiarized?. . .Keep on deluding yourself with the mythological writings and superstitions of ancient arabs. . .So you are better off as muslims, eh? Sure how else will the delusion make sense to you, if you don't delude yourself into thinking that accepting aged long mythologies and superstition makes you better. . .I laugh i arabic. . .

mazaje:
Means mohammed got his stories from a christian. . .

mazaje:
According to christians they got the copy they have today from the copies of the original, just as muslsims claim to get their copies of the koran from the original. . .

vedaxcool:

Really, did you even understood the question you asked? Or the answer I gave? And if u do could u state what u understood by the answer I provided? Cause I am yet to see how this is relevant to what I wrote!

mkmyers45: *Scratching my Head* How can you explain two different translation for one verse?

vedaxcool:
Ok I see u are writing according to ur intelligence, as even a child would tell one can disprove the authenticity of book by merely examing the contents of the book and bringing out its inconsistency . . . What did saint Augustin say about such issues? He said pertaining conflicting
Message of the bible that ' . . . It is either my interpretation of the books are faulty or the words have not been faithfully transmitted to us' this is the simple logic that mr. I got a million dols in my account cannot just figure. We do not need an original to be able to determine whether a book has been corrupted or not, as Christians attribute the bible to come from an author that is perfect, does not create contradictions in his message etc hence if the book a perfect author is suppose to give a perfect logical information, this is common sense yet the bible carries undeniably severely "bad" materials that associating such to its perfect author becomes impossible to sustain. And ignoramus it might interest u to know that the second vatican council which sat on 1945 labeled the old testament obsolete and imperfect. To compound the situation the writership of the books of the bible remain a case of possibly, maybe, perharps, etc in such a situation we are left wondering how can rational maintain that the books of the bible aren't corrupt?
On the second question, u lied against the christians, as no knowledgeable christian can make such a claim, take the new testament, they claim they have 26000 copies of the "original" yet no two of these copies are identical, differing both in minor and major aspect, it is this difference that resulted to the versions Christians have today. Again leaving us to conclude even the Christians do not have anthing close to the original, in fact this led to the RSV removing entire verses from the NT claiming that they do not occur in the most ancient manuscript, the RSV removed the so called ascension of Christ verse from the bible

The fact that the deluded slave of godlessness is repeating what he wrote in a different way seeking to prove his famed ignorance and illogicity, leaves us merely expressing our profound pity upon such a delusion

We also heard mazaje have a miilion dols in his account, that 9-11 was an inside job, that Bush is from the lineage of Hitler, that atheism is a form of insanity, that the world does not exist - it is all a dream, that the Qur'an expressly say the Qur'an is from Allah, that the hadiths all attest to how Muhammad pbuh received revelation from angel Jibril, that . . .

mkmyers45: *Scratching my Head* How can you explain two different translation for one verse?

vedaxcool:

Really, did you even understood the question you asked? Or the answer I gave? And if u do could u state what u understood by the answer I provided? Cause I am yet to see how this is relevant to what I wrote!

mazaje:

Any time you shoot the bible down, you end up shooting the koran as well. . .Muslims claim the bible is corrupt but still use the bible to validate islam. . .If the OT is obsolete and imperfect then so is the koran since most of the stories are almost identical. . .Every body knows that the bible has many issues, but I would have expected the muslims that use the bible to validate islam to provide the original bible so that we can compare the two and differentiate between the alleged words of god and words of man. . .That is basically my point. . .

mazaje:
. . .I am not the person that believes in the mythological writings and superstitions of deluded arab men that plagiarized stories form other civilizations and claimed some imaginary entity called allah "revealed" part of it to a man in a cave when experiencing some for of schizophrenia. . . .Pity your self and your mythical delusions your slave of allah. . .

mazaje:
Sure, the koran is from allah, just as the verders are from shiva and the bible is the word of yahweh, the same way we are told that mohammed divided the moon into two and made the moon to bow. . .Heard that mohammed also made a tree trunk to cry like a child in one of the hadiths. . . . . You are the one that believes in those tales by moon light so deal with it. . .Mohammed received "revelations" (plagiarism) from some mythical angle Jibril?. . .What am I to do with that arabic tales by moon light?. . .

vedaxcool:


When u r thru scratching ur head could simply answer the questions asked

BIGER BOY: what is this addiction with translation? ok, ok.... why is shaikh Abubakar Gummis hausa translation different from that of my great grand father? for heavens sake its bcoz they are all translation of the original arabic. thank goodness the quran is the only book which is still in a living language, unlike other religious scriptures.

now immagine for example a letter written by odudua (yoruba deity) in hausa! (what?), now thats one of the contentions with the bible. jesus was jewish, he had jewish deciples he spoke aramic, but the 'original' bible is in greek! why? how?

Logic Mind: so should i consume the 9 yr old wife to please allah?

LagosShia:

you should consult the 3rd of 3 christian "gods" (i.e. the "holy spirit" ).our christian friends would willing teach you how to speak in tongues.

Logic Mind:

what are you afraid of?

LagosShia:

i'm not.but i dont speak in tongues.

patriot2: who gives a f.uck about your quran.
We do not give a rat's ass!

Logic Mind:

so answer the question.

should i fu.c.k my 9 yr old wife?
would allah approve?

LagosShia:

i think if i may recall correctly,i have already answered you:

https://www.nairaland.com/909078/imam-molested-jss2-student#10547577

LagosShia:

you should consult the 3rd of 3 christian "gods" (i.e. the "holy spirit" ).our christian friends would willing teach you how to speak in tongues.

mkmyers45: No, didnt the 'Slave of God' marry an underage? The Hadith has all we need to handle our paedo urges

Logic Mind: another soldier of allah on the run.
fear! that's what drives you

LagosShia:

stay with your atheism.attention seeker!

Logic Mind:

was my question too complicated for a simple yes or no?