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Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by cheikh: 3:39pm On Dec 12, 2011
BlackLibya
Look at their lady president, doesnt she look black to you?


@^^ She's not black at all. She's of East European ancestry(Bulgarian or Hungarian). Her roots in Brazil is very recent so she does not have the "benefit" of miscegenation. She's a recent immigrant.
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by cheikh: 4:05pm On Dec 12, 2011
Horus
And your point is?. So because there was a faillure to unite in the past does this mean that there will be a faillure to unite in the future?. With your skeptic and pessimistic thinking your are mentaly closing all doors in your mind for unity. A skeptic is stuck in a paradigm and closes all other possibilities. But this creation is of all possibilities. As one understands the paradigm shift and scepticism is removed.

@^^ I am very far from being a skeptic or pessimistic about unity of Black Brazilians smiley. They have a greater chance of uniting to effect a positive outcome than Nigerians(Africans in the continent) grin. Please read my post again. Nowhere did it preclude unity of Black Brazilians getting together. I am only stating that certain conditions such as "Awareness of Self" and one's place in active history making process" must be present. It must be actively cultivated and nurtured for such enterprise to emanate/flourish within such diverse group as the "Brazilian Blacks". Their cousins - AA in North America have a different experience and rallying points like churches, schools etc as gathering/meeting points etc. There are no such exclusive organised social gathering places amongst our Black Brazilian brethren or anywhere in Latin America. The Latin experience is extremely insidious and disabling indeed.
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by paniki(m): 5:13pm On Dec 12, 2011
Ah, talk of unity. Whites only started uniting about 60 years ago after centuries of disunity where they used to regularly kill one another in stupid wars. So perhaps black people should engage in several centuries of war before thinking seriously of uniting. We'll set-up the United Nation Africa(UNA) in around the year 2345 and in the year 2411 the UNA Security Counsel will pass a resolution allowing indiscriminate bombing by the African Frontier Treaty Organization(AFTO) on a rouge state called United Kingdom of Great Britain grin grin grin grin

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Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by Rhodesia: 12:21am On Dec 13, 2011
If everyone in brazil was fully African and all the whites left, it would quickly degenerate into a 3rd world shitip like Haiti.
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by morpheus24: 1:02am On Dec 13, 2011
Rhodesia:

If everyone in brazil was fully African and all the whites left, it would quickly degenerate into a 3rd world shitip like Haiti.

yes just like if everyone was a pale faced cave man descedant we would all be suffering from massive waves of skin cancer.

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Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by cheikh: 3:44pm On Dec 13, 2011
Rhodesia
If everyone in brazil was fully African and all the whites left, it would quickly degenerate into a 3rd world shitip like Haiti.


@^^ I guess you've never visited Haiti let alone knowing somethings about her history. Ignorance is bliss indeed wink. A little humility is in order pls.

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Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by ThiefOfHearts(f): 3:45pm On Dec 13, 2011
Rhodesia:

If everyone in brazil was fully African and all the whites left, it would quickly degenerate into a 3rd world shitip like Haiti.

who is this fool?
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by paniki(m): 5:35pm On Dec 13, 2011
Hahahahaha

Rhodesia has a big problem with black people. Maybe his mixed-race and the "real" white kids used to diss his blackness, now he has come to hate part of himself

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Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by Horus(m): 7:58pm On Dec 17, 2011
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by cheikh: 11:35pm On Dec 17, 2011
@Horus

@ Thank you for posting the video by Louis Gates. It confirms my story and viewpoint about Brazil and indeed the whole of South America. Read my earlier posts again if you wish wink. I am writing from first hand and direct experience of the place and the people.
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by Nobody: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2011
Like someone mentioned.Brazil has 13 racial classifications. However officialy only 6.84% of Brazillians are Black .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Brazil#Demographic_Breakdown
While most african americans have some European blood,the dominant trait has remained african since they often intermarried amongst themselves and rarely with blacks.This is NOT the case with the mixed race Brazillians.In fact all mixed race people except those in the Amazonas State have predominantly European genes(which is why almost no mixed race person in Brazil is dark) with those livind in the South Brazil region haveing an average of being 81% european but still being classified as mixed race.A large number of those 'afro brazillians "you claim have become a majority have blue eyes,dirty blonde hair ,nordic noses and maybe only one african ancestor but like several europenan ancestors from russia portugal,italy and poland.Please read the whole wikipedia page.Dont delude yourself.Mixed race isnt african.EVER.Brazil is still a white country
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by Nobody: 2:49pm On Dec 21, 2011
Rio's Cemetery of New Blacks sheds light on horrors of slave trade

Ana de la Merced Guimaraes who discovered that her house was sitting on the Cemetery of New Blacks, a crude burying ground for African slaves. Photograph: Renzo Gostoli/AP

Locals called it the "cemetery of the new blacks", but in truth it wasn't much of a cemetery. Devoid of headstones, wreaths or tearful mourners, this squalid harbourside burial ground was the final resting place for thousands of Africans shipped into slavery.

The new world greeted them with a lonely death in an unfamiliar land.

For decades the cemetery and those buried there between 1760 and 1830 were forgotten, hidden under layer after layer of urban development.

But 15 years after the cemetery's fortuitous discovery – during the renovation of Petrucio and Ana de la Merced Guimaraes's family home when builders unearthed a series of muddy skeletons – academics now believe they have evidence of the true reach of the slave trade.

The study of teeth from 30 partial skeletons has hinted that slaves arriving in Rio – many of whom were sold on to work in coffee and sugar plantations or gold mines – came from a much wider geographical region than once thought.

Archaeologists and anthropologists studying bone and tooth fragments are shedding light on the horrors of a trade that saw at least 3 million slaves shipped from Africa to Brazil between 1550 and 1888, when the practice was officially abolished.

"It was ugly: a dump into which bodies were thrown and burned," said Sheila Mendonça de Souza, a bio-archaeologist studying the cemetery in Rio de Janeiro, once one of the busiest slave ports in the Americas.

"People weren't buried in tombs, they were tossed away into mass graves."

Della Cook, a biological anthropologist from the University of Indiana working on the burial ground, said: "There is a lot of scholarship on slave cemeteries and the slave trade in North America but very little in South America, which is one of the things that makes this site fascinating.

"We have historical records but we haven't been able to look before at the people themselves."

Using strontium isotope analyses of tooth enamel – a technique that helps detect where a person was raised and has previously been used on samples from burial sites in the Caribbean and Mexico – academics were able to confirm the large area from where the "new blacks" came.

"What we got was essentially the entire range of strontium isotope values," said Cook. "It surprised us that the spectrum was so broad."

The results indicated that slavers had "waded way into the interior" of Africa rather than restricting their search to coastal areas, Cook added.

Mendonça, who works for the national school of public health in Rio, said: "We were not able to pinpoint a specific place … but we confirmed the diversity of origin of those [slaves] who were arriving in Rio de Janeiro. They came both from the Atlantic coast and east coast."

A parallel study of cosmetic tooth modifications, common in some regions of Africa, also underlined the scope of the slave trade.

Mendonça said her team had found tooth markings indicating some of the slaves were native to what are now Sudan and Mozambique, in north-eastern and southern Africa.

Archaeologists believe as many as 20,000 slaves may have been buried at the cemetery, mostly men aged 18-25 who died during the gruelling journey to Brazil or shortly after arriving.

"The majority were very young, principally young boys and girls who would adapt better to captivity than older people," said Mendonça.

The dire conditions of the slave market and port, close to the cemetery, were captured by British writer Maria Graham, following a visit in the early 1820s.

"Almost every house in this very long street is a depot for slaves … In some places the poor creatures were lying on mats, evidently too sick to sit up," she wrote.

"The number of ships from Africa that I see constantly entering the harbour, and the multitudes that throng the slave-houses in this street, convince me that the importation must be very great. The ordinary proportion of deaths on the passage is, I am told, about one in five."

The 3 million slaves who made the journey were previously thought to have come only from what is now Nigeria and from the Portuguese colonies of Angola and Cape Verde.

Some fled, forming autonomous cities known as quilombos. Several of Rio de Janeiro's favelas – among them the Morro da Coroa, the Morro dos Prazeres and Pereirao – are thought to have begun life as quilombos.

With Rio undergoing a facelift for the 2016 Olympics, some archeological discoveries have been made as the city renovates its decrepit downtown port.

In early 2010 archeologists unearthed what they believe to be the remains of Rio's Valongo slave port, through which tens of thousands of African slaves were shipped. Experts hope advancing redevelopment projects will help them rescue further clues about the identities of Brazil's "new blacks", who were buried not far from the Valongo dock.

"When you start messing around with the landscape these things will appear," said Dr Ricardo Ventura Santos, a bio-anthropologist from Brazil's Oswaldo Cruz Foundation, who is co-ordinating the cemetery research team.

Cook said she hoped redevelopment would permit further excavation and the inclusion of places such as the slave burial ground on the city's tourist trail, creating a "monument to the African experience in Brazil".

The excavation of a Roman cemetery under London's Spitalfields market, during the 1990s, could serve as a model, she added.

"Rio has very little history of the slave trade for either Brazilians or external tourists," she said.
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by ADM1(m): 9:52pm On Dec 22, 2011
GERALD710:

Like someone mentioned.Brazil has 13 racial classifications. However officialy only 6.84% of Brazillians are Black .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Brazil#Demographic_Breakdown
While most african americans have some European blood,the dominant trait has remained african since they often intermarried amongst themselves and rarely with blacks.This is NOT the case with the mixed race Brazillians.In fact all mixed race people except those in the Amazonas State have predominantly European genes(which is why almost no mixed race person in Brazil is dark) with those livind in the South Brazil region haveing an average of being 81% european but still being classified as mixed race.A large number of those 'afro brazillians "you claim have become a majority have blue eyes,dirty blonde hair ,nordic noses and maybe only one african ancestor but like several europenan ancestors from russia portugal,italy and poland.Please read the whole wikipedia page.Dont delude yourself.Mixed race isnt african.EVER.Brazil is still a white country

You're a slowpoke. Wikipedia? Seriously? You're quoting a website that has serious credential problems? I can't take you seriously. I can, however, take The Guardian seriously. Here's a fact: Most people in Brazil do identify as black and mixed and there are plenty of blacks in that country, especially those that are visible and especially since that country received the most amount African slaves. And no, Brazil is not a white country. There is no such thing as a white country.

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Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by Nobody: 7:48am On Apr 25, 2013
I think people like chest thumping black superiority where there is none.
Brazil has and never will be black!
The number of people who profess to be 'Black' is at 13%an increase of 1% since 2000.
Mixed Race people now form a majority at 49%but the term is 'Mixed' not Mullato! which is black-white.
Brazil also has Mestizos(white-indian) Japanese-white(around Sao Paolo) Lebanese-white(counted as mixed in Brazil although in the US they would be considered white) japanese-indian ,black-indian and many other mixes that do not have black in them!
Mullatos overall hover at around 30%with the other mixtures around 18-20%.
Also,genetically,mullatoes are predominantly white!(65%)not black.This is due to that blacks stopped moving to Brazil after slave trade ended.On the other hand,the Brazillian government started 'whitening society' by bringing in close to 5 million italians to work in the coffee farms.Germans settled in Brazil such that there are areas that look like Bavaria.Ukrainians,Poles and Russians form a majority east of Sao Paolo while Portuguese live further North and around Rio.

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Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by bjnorl: 1:15am On Sep 23, 2022
That is a pathetic lie. The government tries disappear with mixed race Brazilians.
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by mysticwarrior(m): 11:26am On Sep 23, 2022
bjnorl:
That is a pathetic lie. The government tries disappear with mixed race Brazilians.
the government of Brazil is trying to wightning the Brazilian population by encouraging race mixing.
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by bjnorl: 9:24pm On Sep 23, 2022
mysticwarrior:
the government of Brazil is trying to wightning the Brazilian population by encouraging race mixing.
Brazilians census don't say that. In Brazil exist the category whites, blacks, and mixed race. 43% of population declare themselve mixed race. A mix of Europeans, Africans and Native Americans. 30 millions declare themselve black. The second largest black population outside Africa after U.S. Brazilian media summarized blacks and mixed race in the same category for by own choice. And export this false information. According genetic results mixed race Brazilians are mainly European and have a porcentage of amerindian blood.
Genetic composition of mixed race Brazilians.

Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by bjnorl: 9:31pm On Sep 23, 2022
mysticwarrior:
the government of Brazil is trying to wightning the Brazilian population by encouraging race mixing.

The people have eyes. If the people travel for Brazil see that blacks are not the majority here. The country have many blacks the second largest black population outside U.S. But trying to force that blacks are currently 60%, 80% of the population and called Brazil a "black country" like many people say is ridiculous. black brazilians support this decision because mixed race Brazilians are poor and face the same obstacles as "african brazilians. Not due the phenotype.
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by hamouston91(m): 3:13pm On Sep 24, 2022
Sunofgod:
Brazilian Cabinet Members: (Spot the Negro -  shocked)


Woman at the back. Behind the white woman in orange
Re: Brazil Census Shows African-brazilians In The Majority For The First Time by bjnorl: 6:37pm On Sep 24, 2022
hamouston91:


Woman at the back. Behind the white woman in orange

black brazilians are totally underrepresented in Brazilian society and deserve more representation. Brazil have the second largest black population outisde Africa that is the fact and we need see this porcentage in the media and the society. But i'm I am against this imposition that Brazil is a majority black country if 43% of the population is mixed race. What is the problem to accept the term mixed race? if mixed race Brazilians don't have predominantly African ancestry. They are not genetically black, they not black in phenotype. That is ridiculous.

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