iamoyindamola:

No issue then but we still need replacement for partey too

Players of Partey's profile, i.e lone 6 capable of playing the role at close to elite level, are hot cakes on the market. Few available ones are in the hands of top teams. Few others that are almost as good would go for astronomical fees e.g. Calvin Phillips went for 45 million pounds.
We are no oil club to pay those fees for a back up, lol.
The club probably feels Elneny could do a job for now, along with a change of system, while they scout for a hidden gem (we just missed out on Moises Caicedo). Sambi is also seen as a 6 in the future.

Arsenate:

Players of Partey's profile, i.e lone 6 capable of playing the role at close to elite level, are hot cakes on the market. Few available ones are in the hands of top teams. Few others that are almost as good would go for astronomical fees e.g. Calvin Phillips went for 45 million pounds.
We are no oil club to pay those fees for a back up, lol.
The club probably feels Elneny could do a job for now, along with a change of system, while they scout for a hidden gem (we just missed out on Moises Caicedo). Sambi is also seen as a 6 in the future.

The brighton guy right
We should do swap deal with sambi jare

Arsenate:

Never said better, only said Wolves rate Neto higher. They believe he has a higher ceiling.

Ok. But I totally agree about the quality he can bring. He will be a great competition for Saka.

iamoyindamola:

The brighton guy right
We should do swap deal with sambi jare

Brighton will just laugh their asses if we propose that. He's going to be their next 50+ million pounds sale.

iamoyindamola:

The brighton guy right
We should do swap deal with sambi jare

You need to be calming down

iamoyindamola:
I like this new rule on europa and conference league
Runner up in europa will face third place ucl in a 2 legged play off while third place in europa will face runner up in conference league
Meaning 1st place in Ucl, Europa and conference league will resume the competition in march
Unlike before 1st place in europa and conference join in round of 32

I don't understand

Please break it down to my elementary level...no vex, I want to understand the gist.

Spy360:

Ok. But I totally agree about the quality he can bring. He will be a great competition for Saka.

Yeah. Can't be having Saka playing 50 games a season. The young man just played his 100 EPL games and is still just 20.

ObaIgwe1:


I don't understand

Please break it down to my elementary level...no vex, I want to understand the gist.

let me start with ucl
1 and 2 enter round of 16
3rd place enter play-off with 2nd of europa instead of the normal round of 32 we use to have
Winner join the 1st in each groups for a draw in round of 16
3rd in europa enter play-off with 2nd in conference league instead of the round of 32
Winner face off with group winner for round of 16 draw
Do you understand it now

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How does the group work?
All the group winners will progress straight into the round of 16, which is due to take place on 9 and 16 March.

The second-placed teams go into a play-off round on 16 and 23 February, where they will face off against the eight teams that finished third in the UEFA Champions League groups to earn the right to reach the round of 16.

The third-placed teams drop into the UEFA Europa Conference League, where they will face the group runners-up from that competition in the play-off round, also on the 16 and 23 February.

Anyone finishing fourth will be eliminated from European competition.


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iamoyindamola:
I like this new rule on europa and conference league
Runner up in europa will face third place ucl in a 2 legged play off while third place in europa will face runner up in conference league
Meaning 1st place in Ucl, Europa and conference league will resume the competition in march
Unlike before 1st place in europa and conference join in round of 32

So you mean for Europa League, the winners of each group plays round of 16 straight. No round of 32 for them abi?

Jodera:
So you mean for Europa League, the winners of each group plays round of 16 straight. No round of 32 for them abi?

Yes sir

iamoyindamola:

let me start with ucl
1 and 2 enter round of 16
3rd place enter play-off with 2nd of europa instead of the normal round of 32 we use to have
Winner join the 1st in each groups for a draw in round of 16
3rd in europa enter play-off with 2nd in conference league instead of the round of 32
Winner face off with group winner for round of 16 draw
Do you understand it now

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How does the group work?
All the group winners will progress straight into the round of 16, which is due to take place on 9 and 16 March.

The second-placed teams go into a play-off round on 16 and 23 February, where they will face off against the eight teams that finished third in the UEFA Champions League groups to earn the right to reach the round of 16.

The third-placed teams drop into the UEFA Europa Conference League, where they will face the group runners-up from that competition in the play-off round, also on the 16 and 23 February.

Anyone finishing fourth will be eliminated from European competition.


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Oh nice.
It's now well explained. Make sense diee

At least 2 less games if one tops the group

Arsenate:

Yeah. Can't be having Saka playing 50 games a season. The young man just played his 100 EPL games and is still just 20.

We were lucky he didn't suffer serious injuries. We can't afford to take that risk this season

iamoyindamola:

let me start with ucl
1 and 2 enter round of 16
3rd place enter play-off with 2nd of europa instead of the normal round of 32 we use to have
Winner join the 1st in each groups for a draw in round of 16
3rd in europa enter play-off with 2nd in conference league instead of the round of 32
Winner face off with group winner for round of 16 draw
Do you understand it now

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How does the group work?
All the group winners will progress straight into the round of 16, which is due to take place on 9 and 16 March.

The second-placed teams go into a play-off round on 16 and 23 February, where they will face off against the eight teams that finished third in the UEFA Champions League groups to earn the right to reach the round of 16.

The third-placed teams drop into the UEFA Europa Conference League, where they will face the group runners-up from that competition in the play-off round, also on the 16 and 23 February.

Anyone finishing fourth will be eliminated from European competition.


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Thank you very much!

I got it now. Good one.

iamoyindamola:

let me start with ucl
1 and 2 enter round of 16
3rd place enter play-off with 2nd of europa instead of the normal round of 32 we use to have
Winner join the 1st in each groups for a draw in round of 16
3rd in europa enter play-off with 2nd in conference league instead of the round of 32
Winner face off with group winner for round of 16 draw
Do you understand it now

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
How does the group work?
All the group winners will progress straight into the round of 16, which is due to take place on 9 and 16 March.

The second-placed teams go into a play-off round on 16 and 23 February, where they will face off against the eight teams that finished third in the UEFA Champions League groups to earn the right to reach the round of 16.

The third-placed teams drop into the UEFA Europa Conference League, where they will face the group runners-up from that competition in the play-off round, also on the 16 and 23 February.

Anyone finishing fourth will be eliminated from European competition.


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Thanks for this.

I support this format with two trucks of Amstel malt.

My Opinion!!

With the way Elneny signed an extension and how he performed last season during Partey's absence last season, I don't think the club is looking for any Partey replacement for now. Highest he'll form a double pivot with Xhaka. I no dey put my mind for any incoming Partey's deputy.

As for the Neto deal, Omo I'm beginning to doubt we can pull that off. Read he has 5yrs in his deal which expires 2027. If they can sell Average Gibbs-White for 40m+, I doubt they'll listen to 50m for a more highly rated Neto with at least 2years EPL top flight experience. Maybe the club is just using that to deflect attention for another signing underground (like in Viera case) to prevent hijacking (which is a theme presently) or they're just doing fans longer throat . I believe in the former

As for Tielemans, I don't know whether we're seriously in for him or not. I guess deadline day will make things clearer in this case but if I'm to pick a guess, I would say we might not sign him this summer.

Jodera:
Oh nice.
It's now well explained. Make sense diee

At least 2 less games if one tops the group

Yes

Spy360:

We were lucky he didn't suffer serious injuries. We can't afford to take that risk this season

True True....

This is the time to get most of the players and backup we need, we should milk as much as we can from Kroenke this season, because I expect things to change from next season with this new UEFA Financial Fair Play rule that comes to effect from next season, which limits Clubs to spending only a percentage of their income on transfers and salaries.

As I see it, the effects of free Arab oil money and Sugar daddy money is gradually coming to an end...

Jodera:
My Opinion!!

With the way Elneny signed an extension and how he performed last season during Partey's absence last season, I don't think the club is looking for any Partey replacement for now. Highest he'll form a double pivot with Xhaka. I no dey put my mind for any incoming Partey's deputy.

As for the Neto deal, Omo I'm beginning to doubt we can pull that off. Read he has 5yrs in his deal which expires 2027. If they can sell Average Gibbs-White for 40m+, I doubt they'll listen to 50m for a more highly rated Neto with at least 2years EPL top flight experience. Maybe the club is just using that to deflect attention for another signing underground (like in Viera case) to prevent hijacking (which is a theme presently) or they're just doing fans longer throat . I believe in the former

As for Tielemans, I don't know whether we're seriously in for him or not. I guess deadline day will make things clearer in this case but if I'm to pick a guess, I would say we might not sign him this summer.

Gibbs white is/was 25m

We are been investigated by uefa for financial fair play
I knew that useless Pepe deal will come back to haunt us

But thunder fire uefa if city, Chelsea, man utd, lfc and PSG no they
Barca na number 1

iamoyindamola:

Gibbs white is/was 25m

Oh .. okayy. Thought I read 40 something somewhere

kokaneprodigy:
This match further puts the argument of defense wins you league to rest.
Liverpool is depleted in midfield and attack, hence VVD has been chopping goals at a bigger rate than Mustafi and Luiz combined.

Defense wins you league indeed.

Liverpool is yet to get a win this season, conceded 4 goals as at now.

Bro e too early for this vawlence

What a difference three years can make!

Image on the left : Our starting line-up
December 2019 - 1-1 at Bournemouth

Image on the right : Our starting line-up August 2022 - 3-0 at Bournemouth

Only Granit Xhaka and Bukayo Saka remain.

Man utd spent 70m on casemiro
30 yo what a panick buy
How many good years can he give

iamoyindamola:
Man utd spent 70m on casemiro
30 yo what a panick buy
How many good years can he give

Can't say for certain, but with improvement in sport science (diet and medicine) we are increasingly seeing more players play right into their mid to late thirties. Player's personality, professionalism and unquenchable thirst for success are also determinant factors.

They could probably get 3 good years at least.

Shows how elite 6s are highly valuable/sought after and why Partey is probably the most important player in our team/system. His replacement of equal quality or there about is going to cost the club much more than 100 million pounds in transfer fees and wages.

Arsenate:

Can't say for certain, but with improvement in sport science (diet and medicine) we are increasingly seeing more players play right into their mid to late thirties. Player's personality, professionalism and unquenchable thirst for success are also determinant factors.

They could probably get 3 good years at least.

Shows how elite 6s are highly valuable/sought after and why Partey is probably the most important player in our team/system. His replacement of equal quality or there about is going to cost the club much more than 100 million pounds in transfer fees and wages.

3 years for 70m transfer market is becoming worst
We are still complaining about partey's fitness
EPL is highly intense for a 30 yo DM to be running around
Look at kante his juice is drying up, city helped fernandinho because of their all round pressing and ball possession
It will be interesting to see how he cope sha

Jodera:
My Opinion!!

With the way Elneny signed an extension and how he performed last season during Partey's absence last season, I don't think the club is looking for any Partey replacement for now. Highest he'll form a double pivot with Xhaka. I no dey put my mind for any incoming Partey's deputy.

As for the Neto deal, Omo I'm beginning to doubt we can pull that off. Read he has 5yrs in his deal which expires 2027. If they can sell Average Gibbs-White for 40m+, I doubt they'll listen to 50m for a more highly rated Neto with at least 2years EPL top flight experience. Maybe the club is just using that to deflect attention for another signing underground (like in Viera case) to prevent hijacking (which is a theme presently) or they're just doing fans longer throat . I believe in the former

As for Tielemans, I don't know whether we're seriously in for him or not. I guess deadline day will make things clearer in this case but if I'm to pick a guess, I would say we might not sign him this summer.

Exactly my thoughts.

Edu and Arteta started dragging leg on Tielemans deal after Lo kk Inga shined in that no 8 role during preseason. They now consider Xhaka as the main guy and him as backup, at least for now.

Also, Elneny's performance last season surprised many and Arteta became more willing to fortify other areas like LB and RW.

I think the priority now is a RW. Pepe has not impressed the coach and time is running out.

iamoyindamola:

Gibbs white is/was 25m

It's actually 42m to Nott Forest

Cc Jodera

iamoyindamola:

3 years for 70m transfer market is becoming worst
We are still complaining about partey's fitness
EPL is highly intense for a 30 yo DM to be running around
Look at kante his juice is drying up, city helped fernandinho because of their all round pressing and ball possession
It will be interesting to see how he cope sha

The question is what does Casemiro stand to lose? Nothing. He has won everything at Real Madrid as a main player. Once he is back from the World Cup na to dey use everybody dey catch cruise. The guy wants to cash out and Ancelotti knows. Even Real use the opportunity collect better money.

Spy360:

The question is what does Casemiro stand to lose? Nothing. He has won everything at Real Madrid as a main player. Once he is back from the World Cup na to dey use everybody dey catch cruise. The guy wants to cash out and Ancelotti knows. Even Real use the opportunity collect better money.

That is why i said panick buy

iamoyindamola:

That is why i said panick buy

Sure. I wish it will haunt them quickly

Spy360:

Exactly my thoughts.

Edu and Arteta started dragging leg on Tielemans deal after Lo kk Inga shined in that no 8 role during preseason. They now consider Xhaka as the main guy and him as backup, at least for now.

Also, Elneny's performance last season surprised many and Arteta became more willing to fortify other areas like LB and RW.

I think the priority now is a RW. Pepe has not impressed the coach and time is running out.

I swear... I'm now doubting that Tielemans deal unlike before that I have confidence. Maybe they wanted to bring Tielemans to compete with Xhaka but with Xhaka form and preseason and the way Lokonga impressed then they didn't see his deal as that important again. Make we dey watch sha.

This Pepe to Nice deal don dey linger too much oo. Make e dey official so dat we go see road say Right winger dey come

Spy360:

It's actually 42m to Nott Forest

Cc Jodera

Ehen, I know I saw somewhere that it was 40 something million. Thanks for the heads up