mbatuku2:

Is Isu/Isuama a dialect of Igbo or a clan name? I heard the first Bible in Igboland was an Isuama Bible. How come no one mentioned it?

mbatuku2:

Is Isu/Isuama a dialect of Igbo or a clan name? I heard the first Bible in Igboland was an Isuama Bible. How come no one mentioned it?

NRI PRIEST:


The first Igbo bible was written in Isuama Igbo ?? Where did you get that from and what does Isuama Igbo sound like
The other day somebody said it was Ndoni Igbo that was first used to write the bible !!! I will not say anything until I hear my brethren responses regarding TOSHMAN'S  post.

odumchi:

What difference does it make? Whether Idemilli, Ika, Onicha or Isuama does it really matter? As long as ita Igbo. O'boy, this household rivalry is getting boring.

odumchi:

What difference does it make? Whether Idemilli, Ika, Onicha or Isuama does it really matter? As long as it's Igbo. O'boy, this household rivalry is getting boring.

NRI PRIEST:


Odumchi, firstly I am a die hard Igbo and it reeks from my pores,hence, I have no intention nor a reason to create division among my Igbo brothers, mana onye fu eziokwu nya kwue ya. I am sure if I come here and say Anambra/Enugu Igbo was the Igbo used in writting the Igbo dictionary somebody will quickly correct me.

NRI PRIEST:

I mean Mbatuku and not Toshman.

NRI PRIEST:


The first Igbo bible was written in Isuama Igbo ?? Where did you get that from and what does Isuama Igbo sound like
The other day somebody said it was Ndoni Igbo that was first used to write the bible !!! I will not say anything until I hear my brethren responses regarding TOSHMAN'S post.

NRI PRIEST:

The other day somebody said it was Ndoni Igbo that was first used to write the bible !!!

mbatuku2:

You are very funny. When did christianity reach Ndokiland? Talkless of having a bible?

toshmann:

A sim ka m juo ghu ihe postu m mere ghu.

Mana ka juodile, elee ete ayi shi bia na threadi zaga "Igbo dialect" asuga bekee?

ChinenyeN:

The first Bible translation is Union Igbo, [i]claimed [/i]to supposedly be a composition of (I think) 5 dialects from different culture-zones. Isuama is the first ever wordlist/dictionary. Onitsha is the first non-diaspora literary Igbo. Now, are we done?

mbatuku2:

You are very funny. When did christianity reach Ndokiland? Talkless of having a bible?

Isuama Bible is the first Bible in Igbo, though the 'isuama' used was a messed-up Pidgin Isuama spoken by Sierra-loenean Igbos who had lost touch with their motherland for long periods.

Obiagu1:

@ those arguing over Igbo bible, the first Igbo bible written was Bonny(Ubani) Igbo followed by Onitsha Igbo.

NRI PRIEST:

This your Isuama Igbo bible,was it written based on the dialects of the Isuamas who were residing in Nigeria at the time of the said translation?
Was this your Isuama Igbo bible written on the little knowledge of some few Isuamas who were sold into slavery and moved to the coast of siera-leon,who must have mixed their Igbo with other existing languages in the slave camp,hence,making that Igbo impossible for those in the hinterland to recognize nor read it ?
Again,was this your Isuama Igbo bible used in Igbo land,and if so,where and where was it used ?
Have you read the Isuama Igbo bible ?
How come the the Igbo I was taught to read the bible in,cathecism books in,hynm books in,all the catholic booklets in where mostly the same Igbo my parents spoke to me in(Idenmili/Onicha dialects). How come the Igbo bible which my late grand mother(Iyom Oyagulu) who died in 1991 at 83yrs  had wasnt written in the UNION IGBO nor the ISUAMA IGBO.  Note; the old bible has been in my house for over 40yrs before her death!! How come I never  come across this Isuama Igbo bible nor the Union Igbo version?

Obiagu1:

@ those arguing over Igbo bible, the first Igbo bible written was Bonny(Ubani) Igbo followed by Onitsha Igbo.

ChinenyeN:

The first Igbo Bible was not Bonny. It was what the CMS (Catholic Missionary Society) dubbed as "Union Igbo" (though everyone knows it was basically Onitsha).

ChinenyeN:

The first Igbo Bible was not Bonny. It was what the CMS (Catholic Missionary Society) dubbed as "Union Igbo" (though everyone knows it was basically Onitsha).

mbatuku2:

I strongly doubt your words in bold above, since after the 'Isuama' disaster, the CMS vowed never to use one particular dialect to write an Igbo Bible again, after realizing the diverse nature of Igbo languages.

Obiagu1:

Sorry, the first Igbo bible was the "mysterious" Isuama version, followed by the Onitsha version, followed by the Bonny version, and followed by the Union Igbo version (basically Owerre but with great modifications).

ChinenyeN:

I don't even have time to argue so much about Igbo that I don't even speak. So I'll just say this.
**and make some corrections as well, to certain things I stated earlier**

1. I did make a mistake in one of the things I wrote, confusing Church Missionary Society (CMS) for Roman Catholic Missionary (RCM). The Onitsha Bible was RCM. CMS was Union. RCM's Onitsha Bible only existed because RCM didn't want to use CMS's Union.

2. The first Igbo Bible (Onitsha) was produced during the Union Igbo era. Before then, there was no Bible-producing/writing, but there were Bible translations, which had since been ongoing in both Onitsha and Bonny.

3. Owerri shows up in the SPILC Izugbe (said to be Umuahia and Owerri); the now 'Standard Igbo'.

4. Isuama never had a Bible produced, but they had extensive word-lists and dictionaries.

John Christopher Taylor, was born around
the year 1815 in Sierra Leone of
Igbo parents (an Isuama father
and an Arochukwu mother), who
had earlier been sold into slavery
from the Igbo country of present
Nigeria, but were later rescued
and settled with other freed
slaves in Sierra Leone. He studied
at the Charlotte primary school
and at Fourah Bay College,
Freetown. Having grown up in
Sierra Leone, Taylor was
tremendously influenced by its
Christian environment.

The scene here was indeed quite
challenging. Earlier, with his
many assignments, Taylor was
working at his translations of the
Igbo language. By 1860, he
had rendered in the Isuama
(Owerri) dialect of Igbo, the four
gospels, Acts, Corinthians, and
Philemon.

All these factors seemed
to have created a defect in the
Igbo translation of the New
Testament that he completed in
1866, and when the work was
submitted to the CMS, it was
severely criticized and returned
to him for revision. This made
him feel "entirely disheartened
and discouraged," if not angry.
On this account, he left the
mission in 1868 and returned to
Sierra Leone.

Obiagu1:

@ NRI PRIEST, I don't think Idemili is a dialect on its own because what you speak is what almost everyone along Njikoka and Anaocha areas speak.