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Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by tetraman(m): 4:45pm On Dec 30, 2011 |
Reuters, the well respected international news agency just came out with a report on IMF that shows that the recent removal of fuel subsidies in Africa is due to pressure on those countries from IMF to follow the policy. Ghana yesterday removed thier own. Other African countries like our own are also in line. Agent Ngozi Iweala is just completing her mission impossible here in Nigeria. af.reuters.com/article/nigeriaNews/idAFL6E7NT2F020111229]af.reuters.com/article/nigeriaNews/idAFL6E7NT2F020111229]af.reuters.com/article/nigeriaNews/idAFL6E7NT2F020111229 [url]allafrica.com/stories/201112300791.html[url/] [url]vanguardngr.com/2011/12/fuel-subsidy-removal-how-okonjo-iweala-convinced-jonathansambo-ministers/[url/] [url]vanguardngr.com/2011/12/actual-cost-of-petrol-is-n39-50-per-litre-coalition/[url/] |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by Maisuya1: 5:01pm On Dec 30, 2011 |
Sincerely we should reject this outrightly. The policy may not be intrisincally wrong, but even good policies based on bad intentions result in catastrophe |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by fred2265: 5:19pm On Dec 30, 2011 |
IMF is motivated by corporate American interests only, and have no interest in what is best for African (and other) nations. [img]http://s01.flagcounter.com/count/7uR/bg=FFFFFF/txt=FFFFFF/border=FFFFFF/columns=1/maxflags=1/viewers=3/labels=0/pageviews=0[/img][img]http://s10.flagcounter.com/count/oH/bg=FFFFFF/txt=FFFFFF/border=FFFFFF/columns=1/maxflags=1/viewers=3/labels=0/pageviews=0[/img][img]http://2.s01.flagcounter.com/count/7uR/bg=FFFFFF/txt=FFFFFF/border=FFFFFF/columns=1/maxflags=1/viewers=3/labels=0/pageviews=0[/img] |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by RichDad1(m): 5:22pm On Dec 30, 2011 |
IMF again? |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by damola1: 2:36pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
fred2265: Why should they send you, you've got everything, and still got nothing, Our president really looks like weird in pics. one wonders what is going on in the mind of all of them, they get too caught up in the bruhaha, |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by Nobody: 2:46pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
Wonder why Christine Lagarde had to Visit Nigeria just after Jonathan made his intentions known. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by efisher(m): 3:14pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
Nigeria cannot continue to live in a silo. The world is a global village. The sooner we realize the impact of global phenomena on our daily lives, and position ourselves accordingly, the better for us. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by izeek(m): 3:29pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
truth is that nigerians ain't against good policies , afterall we have in the past seen beautiful ideas or policies that never really translated to improved wellbeing for the populace. i just believe its more of a lack of trust for the government than an outright rejection to this polocies. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by airzzee(m): 4:02pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
We must resist FUEL SUBSIDY REMOVAL like we resisted other devilish recommendations from UK & US this year. If there must removal of removal, like Arthur Nzeribe said, It must be on corruption. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by joe4christ(m): 4:10pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
Oh no, i dont just smell rat but sh*t on these. Damn, i weep for my country! |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by escobar07(m): 4:26pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
now we know better.all this talk about gej begging madam to leave world bank and come to nigeria is just a piece of twaddle. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by beespak7(m): 5:31pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
Nigerians just have to resist the removal of fuel subsidy. The subsidy for diesel was removed some years back and the price of diesel doubled immediately and has not gone down since then. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by cap28: 5:59pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
THE IMF (INTERNATIONAL MAFIA FEDERATION) WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THEY GRIND NIGERIANS INTO THE DUST: [b]The World Bank and IMF in Africa |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by cap28: 6:22pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
[b]Again and again in Southern Africa and across the Third World the IMF’s free-market economic advice and conditions on loans have been disastrous. These disasters have led to a profound crisis of legitimacy for the Washington institution. Former World Bank chief economist Joseph Stiglitz wrote in the April 2000 New Republic magazine that the IMF is populated by “third-rate economists.” |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by Nobody: 6:35pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
This is the reason the IMF lady was glossing over Sanusi's name. I really do not see the sense in fuel subsidy removal and Nigerians must oppose this wicked policy! |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by babaowo: 6:51pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
Until we deliver our nations and continent from westerner, or else where going no where, we should learn from chineese people. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by emtar(m): 6:59pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
US HAS COLLAPSE AND THEY WANT TO LIVE ON AFRICA COUNTRIES AND WE MUST RESIST THIS. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. LET THEM STAY AWAY FROM OUR ECONOMY. NIGERIA IS GREAT. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by cap28: 7:27pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
IBB and Obasanjo are the architects of nigeria's ongoing nightmare with the IMF and the world bank, if there is a revolution in nigeria these criminals deserve to be publicly lynched for the mass suffering they have inflicted on nigerians following their agreement to sell the birth right of nigerians to these two criminal organisations. [b]How The IMF-World Bank and Structural Adjustment Program Destroyed Africa |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by efisher(m): 7:39pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
Can somebody tell me how fuel subsidy removal benefits IMF or USA. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by dplordx(m): 8:41pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
D cash from the subsidy wont be used for these stupyd African nations. It would be used to help hailing American and IMF cronies economy. The Soverign Wealth Scam is also been introduced in Ghana. Use what you dont have, go and invest in a country where even the IMF wont invest nothing. Shame on GEJ, and those stupyd african leaders |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by member479760: 8:50pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
This talk has been going on for a while now and no any further work done on our refineries to increase the output in order to technically justify removal. is that so difficult for 150mil people to operate refineries? |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by cap28: 9:30pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
efisher: when the IMF lent money to nigeria various conditions were attached to the loan. economic reform and total control over nigeria's economic policies would have been one of many conditions. the removal of the subsidy is just one of the many conditions that nigeria signed up to, the excess monies generated from the increased petrol prices that nigerians will be forced to pay will probably flow back into the coffers of the IMF/international oil companies. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by aribisala0(m): 9:46pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
let us assume it is IMF policy so what? We once paid 20 kobo for petrol and it is now 65 naira. the skies have not fallen. There really is no justification for subsidies. True there is a lot of corruption and government is unjustifiably large and those issues need to be dealt with but they should not be conflated with subsidies. Subsidies create a false sense of reality and encourages waste. People should pay the market value of what they use and the building of private refineries encouraged. Nigeria DID NOT sign up to removing subsidies with anyone. The bulk of Nigeria's debt burden is owed to Nigerians NOT the IMF. Nigeria is a member of the IMF like the UK, US and Greece and the IMF does give "advice" to these countries too. Also if they lend money to a country they are Well within their rights to attach conditions so that they get their money back which is normal. That is NOT the case right now anyhow. We must remember that Nigeria is one of the countries that contributes to the fund and they too,like others,expect the Fund to manage their money wisely. Do we really need the IMF to tell us that it is foolish and unsustainable to subsidise petrol so that we sell it 3 times less than our neighbours. w e may argue that it should be phased in gradually and that exchange rate should be stabilised but it is just storing up problems for the future if we don't deal with it now. We may also argue that rather than diverting money from states to the sovereign wealth fund the oil subsidy should be used for that |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by efisher(m): 10:09pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
Well said aribisala. We need to remove sentiment aside and see the issue as it should be seen. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by sleek29(m): 10:10pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
@ efisher, simple, increase in price of a commodity such as petrol would only further increase inflation, depreciate the naira, make the cost of doing business even higher, it would still be cheaper to import fuel meaning we would still subsidise & remove subsidy. IMF gives conditions for loans & one of those conditions are removal of subsidies. IMF doesn't want countries to be able to pay back these loans, subsidy removal further kill local industries as it would be even cheaper to do business outside & sell here, Jobs are created for the increasing Jobless americans & europeans Structural Adjustment Program, Austerity, Subsidy removal (IMF tools to further impoverish third world countries) do not be deceived, name one country that has moved up after IMF policies? |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by sleek29(m): 10:20pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
www.globalissues.org/article/3/structural-adjustment-a-major-cause-of-poverty ITS ALL STRUCTURAL ADJUSTMENT PROGRAMS What we need to do is to just think of what China did, deal with corruption & solve all problems The subsidy removal would only increase corruption as the monies would be managed by the same known corrupt people, IMF knows that, IMF only wants us to keep selling crude oil to the west, mark my words, no refinery would be built!!! Think PTDF (excess funds spent on projects), how is that different from subsidy? Excess crude account shared by Yaradua/Jonathan Oil windfall by IBB This 1.3tr would be looted!!! |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by aljharem3: 10:22pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
where is that mumu called dmainboss/point b you are just an ideeiot beclouded by bigotry that you don't mind Nigerians suffering Ode ewu doluwa I can't believe we have stu.pid people such as your self talking about Nigeria. Now let me educate your dumb brain 1. The cost of a barrel of oil ? and who controls the prices ? with what currency ? You ODE !!! SMH the cost of Oil is controled by OPEC which is an organisation of different oil producing countries Now listen and listen good you half-educated mumu. This prices were set by OPCE to know the UNIVERSIAL COST PRICE OF OIL SALES TO NON-OIL PRODUCING COUNTRIES and that is why ideeiots like u look at the television and see 131 dollars a barrel and actually believe that is the cost of a barrel of oil. The Actual cost of a barrel of oil varies in different countries and it is around 5 dollars to do every thing (factors such as sulfur content, climate, on or off shore etc). of course it is would be sold at the agreed fees of OPCE which is used to protect the interest of Oil producing countries Otherwise, if russia is selling for 130 dollars a barrel and a silly african country like nigeria would sell it for 2 dollars since they are controled by westerners. why can't people just boycot the russian and everyone buy from nigeria ? Now our oil is been converted to dollars money instead of naira according to the link u showed me. This means u just have brains and cannot use it. Is it not obvoius that ours would be the lowest when converting it to dollars because of the exchange rate which is controled by the world bank aka westerners There was a time it was a dollar to a naira so can we say the cost of a liter of oil would be 65 dollars ? what sort of young generation is this When people like u in america cannot thing outside the box and look at things globaly it really hurt me to the bone. smh. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=835261.msg9864751#msg9864751 |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by 2mch(m): 10:25pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
Every developed country has subsidies. Subsidies are not a bad thing when done right and in a transparent manner. If the price of the good is going to be too expensive for the citizens then the government subsidizes the good. With Most Nigerians living on less than 1 dollar a day, subsidy is justified. Until we get the refineries working and improve the standard of living to where people can afford this good, fuel subsidy is going no where. The government has failed at its job and it must either work to correct it or pay for it. IMF can go and shoot themselves right between the eyes. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by aribisala0(m): 10:43pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
and how much does Nigeria owe IMF http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/exfin2.aspx?memberKey1=740&date1key=2012-01-01 At least make an effort to know what you are talking about ? blah blah blah conditionalities blah blah blah HOW MUCH does Nigeria owe IMF ? ZILCH!!! As we speak now how many states in Nigeria buy at the subsidized price If you say the cost of goods in the market is a function of the price of petrol by what factor?? what is the relationship?. |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by sleek29(m): 11:00pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
IMF can use a $1 debt to enslave a country, Nigeria is rich, Nigeria's development would make it a China for west African countries, the emergence of China caused America's economic woes. Think about this I lend you money & ask you to pay an amount back(amortisation), I gave you the money telling you exactly what to do with it, I want to further keep you enslaved by giving you policies that'll ensure you are forever dependent on me, keep servicing loans with more money that you spend on key arears of the economy. The World Bank would soon loan this govt huge amounts & this subsidy monies would be used in servicing it @aribisala0, Nigeria does owe, do not be deceived, have you seen the budget proposal? |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by aribisala0(m): 11:09pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
we are not in a church or mosque where you say what you like. if you must call my name be sure you have something sensible to say how much does nigeria owe and to whom honestly you lack knowledge and there is nothing better than silence to hide this failing do you know the meaning of the word amortisation sleek29: |
Re: Reuters Report : The Fuel Subsidy Removal Is Imf Policy For Africa ! by cap28: 11:13pm On Dec 31, 2011 |
aribisala0: in the UK almost everything is subsidised - for example housing is subsidised for low income earners, food is subsidised (but not alchol), transportation is subsidised for unemployed people, health care including prescription drugs and dental care is subsidised for unemployed people. I therefore find it hard to understand why you say that an oil producing country like nigeria should not subisidise petrol, given the extreme hardship that many nigerians currently live under. The knock on effect of removign this subsidy will push many nigerians under the breadline and create enormous suffering and misery. If subsidies are such a bad thing why are they encouraged in western countries but discouraged in african countries where there is no social welfare safety net? Nigeria negotiated the cancellation of its debts by paying the paris club $35 billion dollars in full and final settlement of various debts it owed to a number of western banks this deal came with various conditions attached and this is one of them. Nigeria may be a member of the IMF but it has no leverage when it comes to anything affecting IMF policy. america alone controls 18% of voting rights while the entire sub saharan countries control only 9% - this gives nigeria zero control over anything concerning IMF policy. IMF seeks to exploit african economies not advise them on how to develop their economies - you only have to look at the disastrous state numerous IMF loan recipients are in today. The main beneficiaries of IMF loans are american and european banks who receive massive interest which increase at unjusitifable rates. other beneficiaries are european and american construction companies who are awarded millions of dollars from these loans to carry out unecessary white elephant projects - one notorious recipient of IMF loans in nigeria is an american construction company owned by the former vice president of america - di.ck cheney. In the end the nigerian tax payer has to pick up the tab by way of higher taxes or in this case removal of subsidies to pay off american and european creditors. |
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