Beretta92:

@manmacho,any god who'd send a baby 2 hell as u stated above must be a most vicious,brutal n wicked god.such a god is absolutely undeservin of worship n deserves 2 b punishd himself.even human beings wif their sordid,filthy hearts'll not arraign a baby in court n send it 2 hell.hw much more god.i dont fink d god of d bible'll do such 2 young defenseless babies who die in infancy.thnk you.

That is why you are better off with Islam where Justice is done right!

vedaxcool:

That is why you are better off with Islam where Justice is done right!

ISLAM IS TOPPING THE CHART WITH THE RECORD OF METTING OUT JUSTICE TO DISBELIEVER

Any word like diswhelming?

no such thing as a young kid. just cuz your earthly suit (body) is young does not mean your spirit is young.

manmacho:

ISLAM IS TOPPING THE CHART WITH THE RECORD OF METTING OUT JUSTICE TO DISBELIEVER

lies from a an angry mob?? anyway Christianity is sending records setting Billions of Babies to hell for the crime of being born to unbelievers!

I think divineson's got this one covered.

@ buzugee,so according 2 u a baby's spirit is elligible 2 go 2 hell,huh @ divineson wat about a kid of say 7 or 8

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Then what about a kid of about 12 or 13 right? Then what about young people of say 19 to 22, then why anybody, sebi? Carry go jor, you go still go on OccupyHell project.

@ Beretta92
May Almighty God bless u for ur question,now hear this when i am a little boy btw 5- 11 etc, when i hear the story of jesus and devil, they will tell us then that jesus is good and devil is bad, and ask who i will choose i will say jesus, but in reality i don,t know both jesus ands devil who they are, even in secondary school then i am a christian i still follow my friends to mosque to pray, they too follow me to church, then we don't know who reall God,Jesus or satan IS' BUT NOW AM ADULT I CAN CHOOSE TO SERVE JESUS AND GO TO HEAVEN , OR CHOOSE DEVIL AND PERISH IN LAKE OF FIRE , now hear this when jesus said if you are not like children you cannot enter the kingdom of God, this is what he meant, watch children closely when they are playing , if they fight each other before you know they are back playing together, they forget the fight and quarrel, if you beat a child later the child will styill come to you, do we have such heart?,
thanks, any more qustion?

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@ image123, i didnt expect u 2 respond d way u'v responded on dis thread.your response has quite been sarcastic.maybe u see me as one anti -christian tryin 2 find fault wif d bible.well,am not;am just a sincere seeker of truth who wants 2 clear his doubts.i don't fink god'l send a baby 2 hell n i wanna knw if he'll send kids of 7-11 2 hell.wat rite do u hv 2 imply dat i'l end up sayin "why wud he send anybody 2 hell afterall?" as a christian which i thot u were,i xpected u 2 address d thread like odas hv done n not askin me sarcastic questns.if u'v gat nofin tangibl 2 contribute,pls get off dis thread(no offence intended) @divineson, thnks.

Beretta92, truth is sometimes bitter you know? I'm telling you truth without palliative, you're complaining. Watch it then, be careful, that's what i'll say. Don't know what you need those answers for by the way.

Little Children

"And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 18:2-3).

Many adult Christians have the mistaken notion that little children are too young to understand the gospel and so should not be allowed to decide for Christ until they are much older.  The problem, however, is not the children; it is the adults who find it hard to understand!  They must become like little children before they can really comprehend the way of salvation and be converted.  Jesus said,

"Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. . . . Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein" (Luke 18:16-17).

After all, what is there to understand?  A very young child, instructed in the Scriptures from infancy as God has commanded his parents (note 2 Timothy 3:15, which uses the Greek word for "baby" as the state in which young Timothy began to know the Bible), can surely comprehend that the God to whom his parents pray made him, that he has sinned against God when he does wrong, that God sent His Son, Jesus, to die for his sins, and that Jesus can save him and take him to heaven.  An adult may require much explanation and may imagine many difficulties, but a child will simply believe--and that's enough!

The word for "little child" or "little children" actually means children who are not much more than toddlers.  It is the same word rendered "young child" when the wise men came to find Jesus in Bethlehem (Matthew 2:8, etc.).  Little children should, by all means, be taught the gospel, and should be encouraged to come to Christ before they grow too old to understand with their hearts! HMM

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Beretta92:

@ buzugee,so according 2 u a baby's spirit is elligible 2 go 2 hell,huh             @ divineson wat about a kid of say 7 or 8

nah Chief, what i am saying is that 'spirits' are not born. spirits are recycled into new born bodies. the only time  a spirit will die eventually is when the almighty creators son returns to earth to claim his people. those who are not claimed will experience the second death (annihilation of their spirits). but until then ? spirits are simply recycled into new bodys. having said all that, there are 2 ways in which the lord can use his spirits (because he owns the spirits ecclesiastes 12 vs 7). he can use them to either punish someone (say if you are a mother who is into heavy sin and the lord wants to punish you, he will recycle one of his spirits into a new born baby and allow the baby to come through you, then when the baby grows into a kid, he will take his spirit back (hence the kid dies) and this will bring the disobedient parent grief (john 9 vs 1-2).  having said that, another scenario could be that the body to which the spirit was attached to in past life did some very evil things so while the new body it has is that of a kid, the spirit is always the same. hence the lord is punishing the spirit for what it did in past life.

and there is no such thing as hell. hell is a condition on earth. hell is purgatory. the place where spirits are sent so that they can acquire humility and respect and faith in the lord. thats earth. hell is on earth. all the suffering you are going through now, all the corruption, murder, earthquakes, boko haram, racism, hunger etc etc. this is hell you are going through. the purpose of hell is to bring you closer to the lord.

buzugee:

the purpose of hell is to bring you closer to the lord.

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PAGAN 9JA:


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controversial but true.

heaven is also on earth. there is no place beyond the skies. hell will be transformed to heaven when the lord returns and kills and destroys all the satanic nations and evil people (about 5 billion people according to world population today) (scripture says two thirds will be destroyed on that day. two thirds of 7 billion people). after these people are destroyed the world will be handed over to 144,000 sealed and righteous men of the 12 tribes of israel. 12000 each from each tribe. these men will be in control of the earth. there will be no more suffering. those left behind will live forever. no oppresion no pain no suffering. lions will go back to eating grass and hence will not eat humans and hence you can play with them. each person will have his own vineyard and fig tree etc etc. utter bliss. evil destroyed forever. peace and joy and love.

@ image123,what truth have u told me,huh

Beretta92:

@ image123,what truth have u told me,huh

PAGAN  9JA:


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Brothers the question is do you want to be amongst the chosen to live forever or the destroyed forever ? you have to accept Yahawashi as your lord and personal savior. you have to have faith in him and most importantly, love your neighbor as yourself and love the lord. when you love your neighbor as yourself you would not want to kill him, steal from him, covet his wife, covet his goods, you have to study your bible (prefarably KJV). stop celebrating pagan holidays (this is idolatry), dont go to man made churches, keep the sabbath day (saturday) holy. do all these things and you shall be one of the chosen who will reign forever with him in the kingdom (on earth)

Beretta92:

@ image123,what truth have u told me,huh

Of the future, your future.

buzugee:


Brothers the question is do you want to be amongst the chosen to live forever or the destroyed forever ? you have to accept Yahawashi as your lord and personal savior. you have to have faith in him and most importantly, love your neighbor as yourself and love the lord. when you love your neighbor as yourself you would not want to kill him, steal from him, covet his wife, covet his goods, you have to study your bible (prefarably KJV). stop celebrating pagan holidays (this is idolatry), dont go to man made churches, keep the sabbath day (saturday) holy. do all these things and you shall be one of the chosen who will reign forever with him in the kingdom (on earth)

have you lost your brains  

those words mean nothing to me.

buzugee:

nah Chief, what i am saying is that 'spirits' are not born. spirits are recycled into new born bodies. the only time  a spirit will die eventually is when the almighty creators son returns to earth to claim his people. those who are not claimed will experience the second death (annihilation of their spirits). but until then ? spirits are simply recycled into new bodys. having said all that, there are 2 ways in which the lord can use his spirits (because he owns the spirits ecclesiastes 12 vs 7). he can use them to either punish someone (say if you are a mother who is into heavy sin and the lord wants to punish you, he will recycle one of his spirits into a new born baby and allow the baby to come through you, then when the baby grows into a kid, he will take his spirit back (hence the kid dies) and this will bring the disobedient parent grief (john 9 vs 1-2).  having said that, another scenario could be that the body to which the spirit was attached to in past life did some very evil things so while the new body it has is that of a kid, the spirit is always the same. hence the lord is punishing the spirit for what it did in past life.

and there is no such thing as hell. hell is a condition on earth. hell is purgatory. the place where spirits are sent so that they can acquire humility and respect and faith in the lord. thats earth. hell is on earth. all the suffering you are going through now, all the corruption, murder, earthquakes, boko haram, racism, hunger etc etc. this is hell you are going through. the purpose of hell is to bring you closer to the lord.

Tell me about it, are you serious?

Children in Heaven

"And |David| said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live? But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me." " (2 Samuel 12:22-23)

The death of a loved one is always a time of great sorrow, but the death of a beloved child is perhaps the keenest sorrow of all.  Nevertheless, for the Christian believer, we "sorrow not, even as others which have no hope" (1 Thessalonians 4:13).

Our text verse makes it clear that, when a child dies (even one born of a sinful relationship such as this child of David and Bathsheba), that child goes to be with the Lord in heaven.  Jesus said:

"Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 19:14).

Heaven is thus a place where there are many "little children." Their inherited sin-nature never yet had generated acts of willful sin, and their Maker is Himself "the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world" (John 1:29), so they are safe in Him.  Although there are few specific Scriptures on this subject, what we do know, both from the love of God and the Word of God, suggests that the souls of all deceased little children are with the Lord in heaven, but also those who died in early childhood (and even before birth) from every time and place since the world began.  There they, along with all those who were saved by personal faith in Christ and are now awaiting the resurrection, will receive new bodies when Christ returns to earth.  The old and lame will be young and strong again, and the children will grow to perfect maturity, for all will become "like him" (1 John 3:2).  "God shall wipe away all tears" (Revelation 21:4), and all will say: "As for God, his way is perfect" (Psalm 18:30). HMM

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Image123:

Tell me about it, are you serious?

very serious

buzugee:

very serious

Are you that serious?

@image123,hw can u knw d truth abt ma future?are u god @ buzugee,who is yawahashi? I thot we were s'posd 2 accept jesus.

[b]You see this is one of the arguments I find bizarre and sadistic about Christianity. They tell me that I was born carrying the sin of thousands of years ago, sins I know absolutely nothing about, and that I must believe in a human sacrifice supposedly made 2000 years ago in order to be cleansed from the sins I was born with. How can a kid be held vicariously liable for the sins of a generation of people he/she knows absolutely nothing of?! That is not only sadism at its best, it is also pure and unadulterated wickedness to teach this drivel to kids in our schools.

This argument is so ridiculous that even little kids can see through it, and the good news is that kids of these days are actually seeing through these kind of nonsense. It is only religion that would tell people that sacrificing a human being today is immoral, but believing in a human sacrifice performed 2000 years ago is a perfectly moral and rational thing to do.

Personally, I wouldn't have any problem with religion and religious adherents if they keep to themselves, but unfortunately they do not keep to themselves. Their penile erections is derived from proselytising their falsehood and fairytales to the innocent, the vulnerable, and the gullible. They derive joy from telling little kids that they would go to hellfire if they do not believe in a human sacrifice. This is the reason why we say religion cannot be said to have any modicum of morality in any shape or form, and by extension, religious adherents are the most immoral of all human species IMHO. [/b]

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+ 100

OLAADEGBU:

Are you that serious? 

extremely serious 

Beretta92:

@image123,hw can u knw d truth abt ma future?are u god          @ buzugee,who is yawahashi? I thot we were s'posd 2 accept jesus.

YAHAWASHI is the hebrew name for jesus. it simply means 'he saves' in hebrew. you have to remember that the bible was written in hebrew before the greeks after they conquered the earth changed it to greek and then from greek to latin and romans and english. when the greek converted it to greek, they changed 'Yahawashi' into one of their greek god 'zeus'. jesus simply means zeus. it is a greek word. so when you worship jesus you are actually worshipping the greek god zeus.

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divineson:

Where Do Infants Go When They Die? 2 Samuel 12 (death of a baby)

There is no question as to where this child is this very moment. The only que

There is absolutely nothing in what you just read that clearly states that the child is going to heaven
How una dey read una own self