This guy has come-up with some interesting stuff- not all of it is correct going by my own analysis (O) but you can see that he has made an effort- http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread545618/pg1

I would have copied here but that Spam bot will probably ban me.

^^^ I enjoy the numerical code, it further explain the uniqueness of islam

The word "month" (shahr) occurs 12 times.
* The word "day" (yawm) occurs 365 times.
* The word "days" (eyyam, yawmeyn) occurs 30 times.
* The words "satan" (shaytan) & "angel" (malak), each occur 88 times.
* The words "this world" (dunya) and "hereafter" (ahirah), each occur 115 times.

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^^^ but the Islamic calendar doesnt av 365 days

deols:

^^^ but the Islamic calendar doesnt av 365 days

Read the blooming article ________________ ! Fill the gap yourself   

deols:

^^^ but the Islamic calendar doesnt av 365 days

Thanks sis for noticing yet another error

frosbel:

Thanks sis for noticing yet another error 

Should av known u'd be here shining ur teeth in happiness

the link is d product of a mind- an intelligent one for that matter. It doesnt make the Qur'an false. It only shows we can make mistakes in our interpretation of things, and especially the QUr'an. and this we should be careful of.

The Qur'an interpretes the Qur'an. the ahadith interprete the QUr'an. Any other thing apart from the above should be well verified before being adopted. I hope u understand

deols:

^^^ but the Islamic calendar doesnt av 365 days

The writer of the article is not writing as a MUSLIM, he uses what he believe to analyse his thought.

olawalebab:

The writer of the article is not writing as a MUSLIM, he uses what he believe to analyse his thought.

Shocking  

Now you need [b]atheists [/b]to help decode your Quran.

In fact after work today, I will spend at least 1 hour to break down that article and show you how silly it is.

Wow !!

frosbel:

Thanks sis for noticing yet another error  

Aren't you predictable and virtually useless?

What you in your mischief call an error is what an atheist (at the point of research) finds to be proof of the validity of Islam. Your mind is twisted, read what the guy says:

What's miraculous about the fact that the word "day" occurs 365 times, is that at the time (and still today), the Arabians were using what's called the Lunar calandar, which only has 354 days in a year. So the Quran acknowledged the full Solar calandar, the number of months in a year, and the average number of days in a month.

The fact that Islam favours the Lunar Calendar does not change the fact that time can also be calculated using the Sun. God created the sun and can refer to it at any point he chooses. I have told you Frosbel, you are pathetically one-dimesional.

Being the olodo that you are, I refer you to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_calendar . The truth is that by virtue of creating the Sun, God also created the solar calendar, the only thing is that he wants us to use the lunar one. However, being the creator and owner of everything, He can talk about or refer to anyone he chooses at any point in time.

Or are you going to say God did not create the Sun? Poor Frosbel  

olawalebab:

The writer of the article is not writing as a MUSLIM, he uses what he believe to analyse his thought.

the more reason u should not just take it up as a proof of the QUr'an's uniqueness. for example, I can claim the Qur'an is unique from the way its recitation sounds to the ear. Anyone ready to disprove me will only have to produce something similar. But we dont go ahead praising this guy if he cant prove his assertions beyond reasonable doubt.- My opinion.

frosbel:

Shocking  

Now you need [b]atheists [/b]to help decode your Quran.

In fact after work today, I will spend at least 1 hour to break down that article and show you how silly it is.

Wow !!

The Qur'an is for all mankind to ponder and reflect on. Anybody who does this with a pure and sincere heart may even make discoveries that the greatest Imam, Mufti, Ulama or whatever name you choose never made from it. Of course, you wouldn't know that- you are too slow and dull to catch that.

Frosbel! Frosbel!! Frosbel!!! What are we going to do with you?

frosbel:

Shocking  

Now you need [b]atheists [/b]to help decode your Quran.

In fact after work today, I will spend at least 1 hour to break down that article and show you how silly it is.

Wow !!

all i feel for you, frosbel is pity. Of what benefit would breaking that down be to you- he is only human and can make mistakes. I pointed that out earlier. Since you have been coming on this board, I doubt that uv learnt anything. What a waste of your time.

maclatunji:

The Qur'an is for all mankind to ponder and reflect on. Anybody who does this with a pure and sincere heart may even make discoveries that the greatest Imam, Mufti, Ulama or whatever name you choose never made from it. Of course, you wouldn't know that- you are too slow and dull to catch that.

Frosbel! Frosbel!! Frosbel!!! What are we going to do with you?

Kill me perhaps

@Deols; In defense of Frosbel, you must not blame him. His slave drivers [when a soul disregards his Creator, he is saddled with those who will have no mercy on him. One who says God is 3 will be given many masters from among the creations; some are slaves to their pets, running them all over the places, controlling their lives, occupying their time and if the animal is not happy, the human slave[s] as unhappy, too], are always on top of him, tasking him with heavy burdens, from before dawn to after dusk. My proof >>>>>

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Quote from: olawalebab on Today at 12:46:58 PM
The writer of the article is not writing as a MUSLIM, he uses what he believe to analyse his thought.

Shocking   Grin

Now you need atheists to help decode your Quran.

In fact [b]after work [/b]today, I will spend at least 1 hour to break down that article and show you how silly it is.

Wow !![/Quote]He intended to say AFTER LABOR. I do not blame him for not seeing that every person can make [a] mistake except Muhammad [as]. Allah uses his actions to give legislation of worship and life to all. Believers follow the examples as much as they can. Disbelievers shun them.


@Frosbel: See. From the way of mercy of Muhammad [as], even muslims are being merciful to you, in spite of your calling God man, ghost and sitting father.

Sweetnecta:

@Frosbel: See. From the way of mercy of Muhammad [as], even muslims are being merciful to you, in spite of your calling God man, ghost and sitting father.

What's all this mumbo jumbo

frosbel:

Shocking  

Now you need [b]atheists [/b]to help decode your Quran.

In fact after work today, I will spend at least 1 hour to break down that article and show you how silly it is.

Wow !!

After searching antiIslam.com and your other websites abi?

deols:

the more reason u should not just take it up as a proof of the QUr'an's uniqueness. for example, I can claim the Qur'an is unique from the way its recitation sounds to the ear. Anyone ready to disprove me will only have to produce something similar. But we dont go ahead praising this guy if he cant prove his assertions beyond reasonable doubt.- My opinion.

Hmm, got your point,thanks for that.
Please, let us ignore those that won't add value to the topic.

A clear example of lunar and solar calculations in the Holy Quran:

Holy Quran 18:25
"And they remained in their cave for three hundred years and exceeded by nine".

[Shakir 18:25] And they remained in their cave three hundred years and (some) add (another) nine.

[Pooya/Ali Commentary 18:25]
In reply to a Jew's query Imam Ali ibn abi Talib (as) said:

"They stayed in the cave 309 years according to lunar calendar."

It is Allah's computation that is given here. He is the knower, seer and hearer of all that which is taking place in the heavens and the earth. He protected them (ashab ul kahf) from the tyranny of the heathen ruler. He does not share His authority with any one whatsoever.

http://quran.al-islam.org/

ShiaMuslim:

A clear example of lunar and solar calculations in the Holy Quran:

Holy Quran 18:25
"And they remained in their cave for three hundred years and exceeded by nine".

You get the idea.

The guy may not be correct with all of his presentation but the co-incidences and patterns are striking and should give the average non-believer something to really think about.

@Frosbel: « #14 on: Today at 01:20:30 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:17:46 PM
@Frosbel: See. From the way of mercy of Muhammad [as], even muslims are being merciful to you, in spite of your calling God man, ghost and sitting father.

What's all this mumbo jumbo Undecided[/Quote]Mumbo Jumbo? Sheesh!
Which of these qualify/ies as mumbo jumbo?

1] Me telling Deols to overlook your ignorance?

2] Me telling you that if it was not for the way of mercy of Muhammad [as], i will not tell her this, but will encourage her to be tougher with you?

3] The man Jesus is your God?

4] The ghost holy spirit is your God?

5] Your God the father is sitting on his throne?

Your choice[s].

Please check out the thread for more on the Quran based on actual linguistic analysis,

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-855448.0.html

I think the greatest miracle of the Quran is its lingusitic miracle,

I dont really get this thread.

tpia@:

I dont really get this thread.

Click on this http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread545618/pg1
if you haven't done so already.

Real TRUTH stands on it's own.

Truth requires no atheist or scientific intervention to validate it's authenticity.

Only a LIE will go to such extreme lengths to confirm itself as TRUTH .

^^So how does the still editing bibles stand in the face of truth? You have no shame Fr0sbel.

Fr0sbel:

Real TRUTH stands on it's own.

Truth requires no atheist or scientific intervention to validate it's authenticity.

Only a LIE will go to such extreme lengths to confirm itself as TRUTH .

so does going the extreme lengths to prove it false (as you and your kind do) shows that it is the truth?

LagosShia:

so does going the extreme lengths to prove it false (as you and your kind do) shows that it is the truth?

Nope , we only examine ISLAM in the light of facts , if it is truth , it should stand the test of our investigations and numerous articles that we produce to show the gross plagiarism that was used to write the book .

This normally sends you into a frenzied ,almost maniacal wild cut and paste adventure all over the www , looking for material that will surely invalidate out claims and prove you right.

Unfortunately the more you do this, the more we produce more material to show how untrue the Quran's divine roots are .

Maybe if you had just kept quiet like the rest the truth may have been hidden somewhat !!

You have just opened a huge can of worms.   

^^^

this isn't about poetry and how sweet sounding your english is.

keep going to extremes.you can find all the materials in the world invented to attack the Quran and Islam.but each time you do,we hammer your face,knock your head and feed you your can of worms.

you have tasked yourself like all others who aim to fight Islam,with an impossible task that will only bring shame and humiliation to your name by revealing your ignorance and foolishness.as at now,that is what the word "frosbel" symbolises for many on this forum.

frosbel:

Nope , we only examine ISLAM in the light of facts , if it is truth , it should stand the test of our investigations and numerous articles that we produce to show the gross plagiarism that was used to write the book .

This normally sends you into a frenzied ,almost maniacal wild cut and paste adventure all over the www , looking for material that will surely invalidate out claims and prove you right.

Unfortunately the more you do this, the more we produce more material to show how untrue the Quran's divine roots are .

Maybe if you had just kept quiet like the rest the truth may have been hidden somewhat !!

You have just opened a huge can of worms.   

Awwww, is this all you could come-up with? What a pity! I saw your thread, but quite frankly I don't have the time to argue with you on your obscure and useless postulations. You know within your heart that you are chasing shadows. Instead of coming into the light, you keep digging yourself into the dark pit of ignorance.

After over 24 hours of digging and digging, Frosbel brought out useless garbage.

maclatunji:

Awwww, is this all you could come-up with? What a pity! I saw your thread, but quite frankly I don't have the time to argue with you on your obscure and useless postulations. You know within your heart that you are chasing shadows. Instead of coming into the light, you keep digging yourself into the dark pit of ignorance.

After over 24 hours of digging and digging, Frosbel brought out useless garbage.

So why bother reply.

It appears that all the facts produced have gone right over your head, we will just have to pray for people like you , so that the darkness of your ignorance can be turned into the light of truth in Christ Jesus.

BTW, I have the Quran on my mobile devices and also the famous Bukhari hadith , so I do a lot of reading myself.

^^^^^^^^^ Maybe you should pray Jesus into God and commanding you to worship him first? Thats a better deal because up to now, your worship is like water over duck's back; it runs back because it does not stick.

Quran is the Book you should judge any Bukhari hadith by. When you ignore Quran, what good is Bukhari hadith for your argument?

frosbel:

So why bother reply.

It appears that all the facts produced have gone right over your head, we will just have to pray for people like you , so that the darkness of your ignorance can be turned into the light of truth in Christ Jesus.

[B]BTW, I have the Quran on my mobile devices and also the famous Bukhari hadith , so I do a lot of reading myself.
[/B]

I don't doubt the bolded- everytime you read the Qur'an and Hadith your heart finds something striking but instead of embracing it, you run-off to your hate sites to get them twisted for you. You are praying for me over Jesus (AS). I suggest you read the last 11 verses of Suratul Ma'idah for Jesus' response to you.