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Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:24am On Mar 02, 2012 |
jayriginal: To be an atheist you need to have perfect knowledge of all things to come to the conclusion that God does not exist. Do you? jayriginal: You have to be able to answer foundational questions such as; What caused the universe to come to existence and where did the original energy or matter come from? There are myths and there are true myths. The creation account is true myth that is backed up with scientific evidence. Show me the scientific evidence of your fairytale myth and I will show you the scientific evidence of the true myth and we will see whose worldview is based on a solid foundation. jayriginal: Just as your colleagues are fund of doing. jayriginal: Melanin determines the colour of the eye. If the iris has a larger amount of melanin, it will be brown but if it has a little amount the eye will be blue. jayriginal: I believe the gods you mentioned exist but I do not have faith in them. jayriginal: We have a name we call them, they all tremble at the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. jayriginal: Ignorance is bliss, right? You better learn about DNA which is a molecule of heredity that is passed from parents to children as this will explain how you get the amount of melanin. jayriginal: I have no problem giving you the evidence but why have you developed cold feet when I said you should be prepared to be committed as soon as I make my case? |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:29am On Mar 02, 2012 |
Enigma: May God richly bless you for bringing this videoclip to my attention. Richard Dawkins surely met more than his match in this debate. |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:09am On Mar 02, 2012 |
mazaje: Follow this conversation between a biblical creationist "C" and an evolutionist "E" as they discuss some recent scientific news headlines and see how it answers you questions: E: Have you heard about the research findings regarding mouse evolution? C: Are you referring to the finding of coat colour change in beach mice? E: Yes, isn't it a wonderful example of evolution in action? C: No, I think it's a good example of natural selection in action, which is merely selecting information that already exists. E: Well, what about antibiotic resistance in bacteria? Don't you think that's a good example of evolution occurring right before our eyes? C: No, you seem to be confusing the terms "evolution" and "natural selection." E: But natural selection is the primary mechanism that drives evolution. C: Natural selection doesn't drive molecule-to-man evolution; you are giving natural selection a power that it does not have - one that can supposedly add new information to the genome, as molecule-to-man-evolution requires. But natural selection simply can't do that because it works with information that already exists. |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:13am On Mar 02, 2012 |
Deep Sight: He is supposed to be the most intelligent atheist evolutionist. |
Re: Darwin's Day by mazaje(m): 2:15am On Mar 02, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: I asked a simple question. . .Where is your scientific explanation on how blonde hair and the mutations which caused lactose tolerance in human adults are all as a result of sin?. . . .You made that nonsensical claim so provide the scientific explanations for that, after all you claim you have all the scientific evidence in the bible, all we want is for you to point to it. . . |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:26am On Mar 02, 2012 |
PA1982: Merely saying this does not show how you logically disproved this it just shows your emotional outburst. PA1982: Scientists who are creationists would tell you that the blue colour in the blue eyes is as a result of the way light scatters off of the thin layer of brown-coloured melanin. |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:00am On Mar 02, 2012 |
mazaje: If you read my previous posts I explained my perspective on natural selection and mutatation which is obviously different from your perspective. The mutation creating lactose tolerance in human being doesn't add new information to the genome. Humans are born lactose-tolerant and others have what is called lactase persistence. |
Re: Darwin's Day by Nobody: 3:05am On Mar 02, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Wow! |
Re: Darwin's Day by mazaje(m): 3:08am On Mar 02, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: The scientific process of sin causing mutation is what I want you to provide, you made the claim so provide the evidence already. . . .It shouldn't be a hard thing for you, after all the bible contains all the scientific explanations, no?. . . |
Re: Darwin's Day by mazaje(m): 3:09am On Mar 02, 2012 |
Martian: Na today?. . . Just keep reading and laughing at creationist scientist Olaadegbu. . . |
Re: Darwin's Day by mantraa: 3:33am On Mar 02, 2012 |
@Olaadegbu Have you read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins? |
Re: Darwin's Day by Enigma(m): 9:35am On Mar 02, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: See the impact that knowledge/understanding of what DNA represents had on one of the evangelical atheists' greatest champions of all time. [flash=400,300]http://youtube.com/v/X1e4FUhfHiU[/flash] |
Re: Darwin's Day by Enigma(m): 9:40am On Mar 02, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU:Deep Sight link=topic=869536.msg10309264#msg10309264 date=1330623705: He is the pope of evangelical atheists! |
Re: Darwin's Day by mantraa: 10:11am On Mar 02, 2012 |
^^^^ have you read the god delusion? Take a look at his website http://richarddawkins.net/ before condemning the man. It's mainly about the celebration of science and reason. Add you opinion to the topics in the comments. I think you and olaadegbu might enjoy adding to the discussions there too. |
Re: Darwin's Day by jayriginal: 1:05pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU:Let me quote myself here. jayriginal:You need to let go of your pre conceived notions of atheism. Very soon like Frosbel used to, you will advocate killing of atheists. OLAADEGBU:No I do not need to be able to answer such questions. They have no bearing on my lack of belief. For you, not being able to answer such questions is a an itch that must be scratched with god did it. Its good enough for you and therefore, others must accept it too. Not so. I have no fairy tales or myths, neither do I need one. OLAADEGBU:Whats this ? You make a statement and I show you it can be applied to you. Is that a "sin" ? OLAADEGBU:Im not interested in this. I want you to establish your boisterous claim. OLAADEGBU:Well you should. It would even your chances. OLAADEGBU:As you believe you believe. OLAADEGBU: Like I said earlier (its too far down for me to quote), I can provide a basic explanation of DNA. I can even get sufficiently advanced information from the internet. I am not interested. The DNA proves itself not god. Why do you persist with the charade? I dont need science to stop believing in your god or any of the other man made gods. Why is DNA evidence for your god and not allah ? If this is your proof, it is an utter fail. OLAADEGBU: Cold feet ke ? Have I not been begging you for about three pages to prove your case ? It would seem that you cannot do away with assumptions because without them you really have nothing to say. Get on with the proof. Feel free to discuss your theory of sin caused mutations with someone else. I will not engage you on that on this thread. I just want you to make good your boast. |
Re: Darwin's Day by jayriginal: 1:32pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
Dawkins publicly spanked ? I think not. The Christian goes on for over 9 minutes (the entire video is 10minutes 44 seconds) and then the clip is edited and ends with "I believe you have faith in your wife, is there evidence for that" and "atheism is a faith" (or was it religion he said). Dawkins is talking about faith and evidence, then the christian asks a really silly question asking for Dawkins evidence of faith in his wife. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING. And then saying atheism is a faith. There are questions sometimes so silly (and unexpected by virtue of their sheer idiocy) that will leave you speechless. Anyway, its a common christian tactic. Cant expect anything better. Oh and Flew didnt become a christian. I guess it needs to be pointed out. |
Re: Darwin's Day by mazaje(m): 1:48pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
^^ I wasted 10 mins watching the video expecting to see something nice or interesting, the theist made not interesting point or argument, just regurgitated the same spurious arguments like, our God is eternal and not man made with out providing any evidence for that and forgetting that his entire God idea and beliefs came from other men and his alleged word of God is NOTHING but the writings, thoughts, ideas and conception of other men and their superstitions that were written down. . . |
Re: Darwin's Day by jayriginal: 3:16pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
mazaje:I swear to "god". |
Re: Darwin's Day by PA1982(f): 3:36pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Thus writes the master of argument by comix? Come, come, you can do better than that. Scientists who are creationists would tell you that the blue colour in the blue eyes is as a result of the way light scatters off of the thin layer of brown-coloured melanin. Source, please. I'd like to read the article, especially considering the lack of 'brown' eye colour chromosones in those us who don't have brown eyes. |
Re: Darwin's Day by mazaje(m): 5:16pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
PA1982: Stop taking Olaadegbu and his creationist scientific "explanations" seriously. . .How do you expect any serious person that knows what he is saying to drop such drivel. . . . |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:18pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
mazaje: PA1982: Since you guys are too lazy to do your own research on google, here is a suggested link to educate you. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v3/n2/four-women-boat-kids |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:19pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
What Have Mutations Really Changed?http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v3/n2/four-women-boat-kids |
Re: Darwin's Day by mazaje(m): 11:33pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: You stated this nonsense drivel, now you are coming up with another drivel for us to read. . .Did you bother to read the drivel that was written in the article you provided?. . .Answers in genesis is a pseudo-scientific website. . .Non of the the drivel they write is acceptable science. . . . |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:36pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
mantraa: I have not read it but have read and watched debates about it including where the author of the book was soundly trashed by John Lennox. Watch the videoclip again or watch the full debate to find out its logical conclusion. http://fixed-point.org/index.php/video/35-full-length/164-the-dawkins-lennox-debate |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:43pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
Enigma: We thank God for how this guy found out the truth before it was too late. It is better to be late than sorry at the end. If those who are portraying themselves as atheists on this forum are sincere and truly seeking for the truth they would consider the message that the DNA is giving. |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:47pm On Mar 02, 2012 |
Enigma: And most intellectual schizophrenics get their argument from his books and debates. |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:23am On Mar 03, 2012 |
jayriginal: Frosbel will not, could not and did not advocate for the killing of atheists, and that's if they exist. To call yourselves atheists you must have absolute knowledge of the universe. Let's say that a circle represents all the knowledge in the entire universe, to have absolute knowledge you must know how many hairs are upon every head, every thought of every human heart, every detail of history, every atom within every rock, nothing is hidden from your eyes, that you know the intimate details of the secret love-life of the fleas on the back of the black cat of Napolean's great-grandmother, what amount of gold or petroleum there is in China if there are any. jayriginal: If foundational questions are too complicated for you let me ask you the question John Lennox asked Dawkins. Do you have faith in your wife if you are married? When you walked up to her on your first date and asked her to give you her name did you believe her or did you say you doubted it? When she told you where she worked did you say "I don't believe that either" If you did I don't think you will have a relationship right now. jayriginal: If you say so. jayriginal: I am still waiting for your committment. jayriginal: That would be called idolatory. jayriginal: I believe that they are idols. jayriginal: Did you see the videoclip posted by Enigma about an atheist who had a change of mind due to the evidence of DNA? jayriginal: All you need to do is to agree to believe and worship the Infinite Creator God if I give you the evidence that He exists. jayriginal: The ball is in your court. |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:56am On Mar 03, 2012 |
Here is Lee Strobel, another former atheist who came to saving faith in our Lord Jesus Christ after he set out to prove the Bible wrong. He is here giving the biological information that is in the DNA as evidence for God. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUw6aRB9VMg |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:16am On Mar 03, 2012 |
mazaje: You see drivel because of the evolutionist spectacles you use in viewing the evidence. When you begin to use the proper spectacle to see clearly then you will know that mutations that create lactose tolerance in human beings does not add any information to the genome as your scum-pond-to-humans evolution fails to see. You will also see that human beings are born to produce the lactose-digesting enzyme lactase and eventually some human beings stop producing these lactase while others have a nucleotide switch in their DNA which can keep lactase into adulthood. |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:19am On Mar 03, 2012 |
The Full debate on Richard Dawkins' God delusion. http://fixed-point.org/index.php/video/35-full-length/164-the-dawkins-lennox-debate |
Re: Darwin's Day by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:31am On Mar 03, 2012 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBbBenCTTwE "Darwin's Rottweiler is about to get a run for his money, " - BBC |
Re: Darwin's Day by mazaje(m): 2:46am On Mar 03, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Some times you really need to read what you are writing. . . .How does this prove that sin is what causes mutation as you ridiculously claimed?. . . .Keep on jumping and singing all over the place. . . . |
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