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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:10am On Sep 12, 2016
elampiro:


It is an evil thing that on a day our problems were caused by Mkhitaryan and Lingard, you people have decided to shift the blame to Rooney who was among the few good players for us. Shame that this is the case now. Rooney is the scapegoat every time we don't get a result.

Without Valencia, Shaw, Fellaini and Rooney, we would have been completely annihilated in the first half. Every time we managed to go forward in the first half, it was something that involved Rooney. Go and watch the highlight again. He almost set up Ibra for an equaliser with a pin pointing cross to his head but Ibrahimovic headed straight at the goalkeeper. He and Valencia were the two who managed to go forward in the first half.

The Mkhitaryan I saw in that game wouldn't even make the bench if Mourinho were to be fair. I have never seen such a woeful performance, and I rated this guy high based on what I read here. Instead of talking about Mkhitaryan, Lingard, Pogba, Blind and even Bailly, you people put the blame on one of those who ensured we were not humiliated.



Rooney is the reason why crude oil price collapsed from $140 per barrel to $40 in the international market.
grin

This is my main point.
This match's problems started from
1) Mourinho being over cautious and selecting the wrong wide men
2) Those wide men Mkhi and Lingard not being able to control a first time ball or even pass to their team mates. Mkhi in particular looked small, afraid and jittery.
3) When things got difficult in midfield Fellaini of little talent stood up like a man while the more talented Pogba ambled around like a man still doing his warm ups....the boy is naturally lazy, he is loftus cheek's mentor
4)Blind and Bailly were not at their best also and even their passing was off.
5) Then you can talk of Rooney or Zlatan or the other guys.
Rooney is a problem in this team generally but he is not the only problem AND in this particular match the problems were Mourinho, Mkhi,Lingard and Pogba
Blaming Rooney first every time something goes wrong is a very lazy and simplistic way of addressing the problem
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:25am On Sep 12, 2016
afrodoc2:



Blaming Rooney first every time something goes wrong is a very lazy and simplistic way of addressing the problem


Still Blaming Rooney, if the cow had resigned himself to the bench from the onset, Mourinho would have played Mickie mouse getting him familiar with the 10 position from the beginning of the season while Martial and lingard would have manned the wings.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 5:29am On Sep 12, 2016
Wishing you all Barka D' Sallah.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 5:32am On Sep 12, 2016
afrodoc2:


This is my main point.
This match's problems started from
1) Mourinho being over cautious and selecting the wrong wide men
2) Those wise men Mkhi and Lingard not being able to control a first time ball or even pass to their team mates. Mkhi in particular looked small, afraid and jittery.
3) When things got difficult in midfield Fellaini of little talent stood up like a man while the more talented Pogba ambled around like a man still doing his warm ups....the boy is naturally lazy, he is loftus cheek's mentor
4)Blind and Bailly were not at their best also and even their passing was off.
5) Then you can talk of Rooney or Zlatan or the other guys.
Rooney is a problem in this team generally but he is not the only problem AND in this particular match the problems were Mourinho, Mkhi,Lingard and Pogba
Blaming Rooney first every time something goes wrong is a very lazy and simplistic way of addressing the problem
Will blame the coach first for using the wrong personnel to man the wings. ..

Lingard and Mhiki ain't even wingers at all.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:35am On Sep 12, 2016
Odunharry:

Will blame the coach first for using the wrong personnel to man the wings. ..

Lingard and Mhiki ain't even wingers at all.


Easy with the lies.


Lingard is a winger
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:36am On Sep 12, 2016
Man, really sad for my Nigga Depay...I hope he plays on Thursday.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 5:47am On Sep 12, 2016
Wingback:



Easy with the lies.


Lingard is a winger
So cos he played the position means he's a winger?? where are u from?
Do you know the position he played he played in the pre season when Moyes came??
Do you know his natural position??

Correct me if im wrong though.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:59am On Sep 12, 2016
Odunharry:

So cos he played the position means he's a winger?? where are u from?
Do you know the position he played he played in the pre season when Moyes came??
Do you know his natural position??

Correct me if im wrong though.


What is this rubbish? Bale was a Wingback mostly through out his youth before he was converted to a winger, So cuz he plays Wing does faff mean that's not his position? Who cares what a youth player plays, he's a pro now and The wings is his new position.

Moyes was like 69 decades ago, you want to compare a 18-19 yr old Lingard then to now...WTF! And how did Moyes improve his game...Mtcheew.


As a U-21 he played CAM but was used more at the flank so it's not too much to ask of him to take the LW at the derby.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 6:06am On Sep 12, 2016
Wingback:



What is this rubbish? Bale was a Wingback mostly through out his youth before he was converted to a winger, So cuz he plays Wing does faff mean that's not his position? Who cares what a youth player plays, he's a pro now and The wings is his new position.

Moyes was like 69 decades ago, you want to compare a 18-19 yr old Lingard then to now...WTF! And how did Moyes improve his game...Mtcheew.


As a U-21 he played CAM but was used more at the flank so it's not too much to ask of him to take the LW at the derby.
Lmao... You are very funny
I'm asking you tell us his natural position you are writing epistles.
Is Rooney an AM??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 6:08am On Sep 12, 2016
Diademk07:


Morgan was exposed at old trafford last season though and he came out well in that game.

Lingard runs against him in the comm. shield was just an anomaly, he still did well in that game apart from that mishap and he's looked solid this season, even vs Liverpool where the fullbacks and midfield let the defence down.

You can't negate the fact that Fusch was awful in the game as well as Simpson and the player that replaced him.
But I thought Fuchs is better than Rose according to you the last time we argued on it
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:11am On Sep 12, 2016
Odunharry:

Lmao... You are very funny
I'm asking you telltell us his natural position you are writing epistles.
Is Rooney an AM??


[size=22pt]JESSE ELLIS LINGARD IS A WINGER!


[/size]

Rooney has been deployed often as an AM but not in the traditional sense of A play maker as he's been asked to do under Mourinho more like a False 9 that's doesnt drop deep and he's a shit one at that







Next time ask if Rooney is a playmaker...NO...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 6:21am On Sep 12, 2016
Wingback:



[size=22pt]JESSE ELLIS LINGARD IS A WINGER!


[/size]

Rooney has been deployed often as an AM but not in the traditional sense of A play maker as he's been asked to do under Mourinho more like a False 9 that's doesnt drop deep and he's a shit one at that







Next time ask if Rooney is a playmaker...NO...
Lmao..Now i know you are a comedian..
Don't tell us you are equating a No. 10 to a false Nine.
How can Rooney be a false 9 when you already have a 9 up front in the person of Zlatan??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:34am On Sep 12, 2016
Odunharry:

Lmao..Now i know you are a comedian..
Don't tell us you are equating a No. 10 to a false Nine.
How can Rooney be a false 9 when you already have a 9 up front in the person of Zlatan??


A No 10=AMC...A FALSE 9 CAN OCCUPY the AMC position now what's a false 9? The false 9 isn't a position it's a role and it's more suitable for the lone striker playing up front but a coach can assign it to AMC especially when the opponents have a pivot DM.

A false 9 basically runs round the place losing markers and it's quite ineffective to use on the NO 10 position but not Impossible TO work.



FALSE 9 IS A ROLE, NO 10=AMC IS A POSITION.

Maybe you will be more comfortable if I said false 10(But that's a completely different theory)


Using your logic we might as well say smalling is a centre back can only be a sweeper but a goalkeeper can't be a sweeper as well?...Cough cough...Manuel Neur
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 6:41am On Sep 12, 2016
Wingback:



A No 10=AMC...A FALSE 9 CAN OCCUPY the AMC position now what's a false 9? The false 9 isn't a position it's a role and it's more suitable for the lone striker playing up front but a coach can assign it to AMC especially when the opponents have a pivot DM.

A false 9 basically runs round the place losing markers and it's quite ineffective to use on the NO 10 position but not Impossible TO work.



FALSE 9 IS A ROLE, NO 10=AMC IS A POSITION.


Using your logic we might as well say Valencia is a centre back can only be a sweeper but a goalkeeper can't be a sweeper as well?...Cough cough...Manuel Neur
Atimes i wonder how people here comprehend Some of the things you post.
What's the meaning of Valencia is a centre bavk can only be a sweeper?
Has Val ever started or played CB for United?


Which one is a coach can assign it?? Why is it called false 9 in the first place?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:43am On Sep 12, 2016
Odunharry:

Atimes i wonder how people here comprehend Some of the things you post.
What's the meaning of Valencia is a centre bavk can only be a sweeper?
Has Val ever started or played CB for United?


Which one is a coach can assign it?? Why is it called false 9 in the first place?


I meant smalling my bad.


It's called false 9 because it's uses for the lone strikers mostly but it's in fact a role and not a position like you are trying to make it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 6:51am On Sep 12, 2016
Wingback:


I meant smalling my bad.


It's called false 9 because it's uses for the lone strikers mostly but it's in fact a role and not a position like you are trying to make it.


I know it's a role n also you saying Rooney is more of False 9 is just laughable.

A team using a false nine doesn't really need a traditional 9 up front.
Infact most times they play without a striker.

Fabrepass, Messi, Hazard at a time played it, Totti comes to mind .

Back to topic, Lingard best position is still not on the wing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 7:18am On Sep 12, 2016
Diademk07:


If Pep wants to do well, he should better concentrate on Otamendi as his ball playing defender and get in Kompany to replace Stones in that defence.

Pep has trust in him,even before the market opened,I always said it here that stones was perfect for pep and I was so sure he would buy him..just give him time
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 7:52am On Sep 12, 2016
Zlatan is the first player in history to score in the Manchester derby, El Clasico, Derby D'Italia, Milan derby, Barcelona derby. #MUFC

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 8:13am On Sep 12, 2016
dubylhover:
Zlatan is the first player in history to score in the Manchester derby, El Clasico, Derby D'Italia, Milan derby, Barcelona derby. #MUFC
so? Should he be given ballon d'derby trophy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:21am On Sep 12, 2016
Odunharry:
Wishing you all Barka D' Sallah.
same to you
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:22am On Sep 12, 2016
nyabinghi:
so? Should he be given ballon d'derby trophy
Yes. Any problem?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:24am On Sep 12, 2016
dubylhover:


Pep has trust in him,even before the market opened,I always said it here that stones was perfect for pep and I was so sure he would buy him..just give him time
I like stones too but make I ask you
when kompany is finally fit who do you think pep go bench stones or otamendi ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 8:40am On Sep 12, 2016
elampiro:


It is an evil thing that on a day our problems were caused by Mkhitaryan and Lingard, you people have decided to shift the blame to Rooney who was among the few good players for us. Shame that this is the case now. Rooney is the scapegoat every time we don't get a result.

Without Valencia, Shaw, Fellaini and Rooney, we would have been completely annihilated in the first half. Every time we managed to go forward in the first half, it was something that involved Rooney. Go and watch the highlight again. He almost set up Ibra for an equaliser with a pin pointing cross to his head but Ibrahimovic headed straight at the goalkeeper. He and Valencia were the two who managed to go forward in the first half.

The Mkhitaryan I saw in that game wouldn't even make the bench if Mourinho were to be fair. I have never seen such a woeful performance, and I rated this guy high based on what I read here. Instead of talking about Mkhitaryan, Lingard, Pogba, Blind and even Bailly, you people put the blame on one of those who ensured we were not humiliated
you are a specialist in missing the point when King R is on the table anyway so no surprises here.
why all the headache about Rooney's 'best' position? Why must every manager(club/country) speak on this topic? It's a simple question demanding a simple answer, not epistles.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 8:57am On Sep 12, 2016
dmcdad:

In that case, hope your former coach wins the EPL while your shitty club wanders... Agreed?
Oga, chill. shuoo, see as u dey pant grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dmcdad: 9:25am On Sep 12, 2016
Skimpledawg:
Oga, chill. shuoo, see as u dey pant grin
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. My guy laun! cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 9:56am On Sep 12, 2016
eph12:
Yes. Any problem?
u c gun for my hand
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 10:09am On Sep 12, 2016
Mourinho: "For me, the next big game is against Feyenoord and @MarcusRashford's going to play. That’s the only thing I can say."

Mourinho: "I trust him completely. I know his future will be absolutely brilliant. He’s mainly a No.9.

Mourinho: "If you want to play him in different positions, we need to work on him and improve him. But his big personality is there."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:56am On Sep 12, 2016
nyabinghi:
u c gun for my hand
As you dey ask mumu question na.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 11:09am On Sep 12, 2016
SIRcumalot:

I like stones too but make I ask you
when kompany is finally fit who do you think pep go bench stones or otamendi ?

Walayi stones would still play..pep has his vision and team in mind,don't b suprised,kompany fit still chop bench under pep
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 11:15am On Sep 12, 2016
grin grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 11:48am On Sep 12, 2016
grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:51am On Sep 12, 2016
Mourjnho WHY?


WHY MOURINHO

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