jidewin:

Just as some peeps have voiced their opinion and still doing same on BB,The teacher SHOULD NOT have asked the boy to STRIP, and upon refusal FLOGGED him. HE could have as well TELL him to live and come back with his parents.Lets be realistic,If it was your son or daughter that was flogged that way (with visible bruises all over his back),most of us on nairaland would have brought the roof down that same hour ( i know i would).

And as for speaking pidgin english,come on,wetin bad for dere ; ? how many of them at the oyo house of assembly can speak concise,clear and standard english or make a statement without additional Yoruba accent overtaking the proper pronunciation e.g EIGHT as HEIT, HOUR as AWA, THE as DE
Those remarks made against that boy regarding his PRESENTATION by the lower house member is just based on TRIBAL intolerance and cynism please.

"IGBO boy and im papa,rack yoruba man for im papa soil.Eewo orisa!"


I don't believe you said all these?
So the guy should be commended for what he did?

emmatok:

WTF,

Except LAGOS, Their is not law that says teachers should not beat student, neither is any other wise.


But the school need the to use their desecration in discipline their student.

The teacher might be partially wrong in his actions, but kid is in his custody so he has the right to discipline him,

But that father is an animal and he should dismissed from the FORCE for that action.  

And that boy should be sent back to IMO were he can get free education for Rogers.

pcicero:

@okija_juju
How you arrived at the fact that the cane was doubled when it got to his turn still remains a conjectur because the boy did not say that much. The poor boy also admitted that himself, alongside other students were punished on that day.

Why have you considered it improbable that the guy reacted in a rude manner to the teacher? Why is that guy still in SS3 at his age
I served in Taraba State (Magami secondary school,Jalingo) between 2003-2004. Some students can be very provocative. Those students knew what would happen if you as much as thought of beating them.
It was so bad that the principal being a christian from Southern Taraba was not comfortable with the attitudes of th students but could not do anything. Imagine a principal scared of flogging erring students for fear of reprisals.

I'm typing on BB, please pardon my typos. But it's really disheartening.

SS3 Student Opts For Pidgin At Assembly Probe
Published on February 15, 2012 by  

It was a show of shame yesterday at the Oyo State House of Assembly when an SSS3 student of United Senior Secondary School, Ijokodo, Ibadan, Oyo State, Southwest Nigeria, could not address the legislators in simple and correct English.

Master Allison Chukwuebuka, also called Ebuka, was invited by the legislators to explain why he beat up his class teacher, Mr. Gbenga Ogunleye, a graduate of Ekiti State University for punishing him alongside other 19 students for indecent dressing.

The student was ushered into the Assembly chambers in the company of his father, Mr. Emmanuel Allison, an inspector with Nigeria Customs Service, and other three top officers of the service.

When called upon by the Speaker of the Oyo State House of Assembly, Monsurat Sumonu to narrate what led to a clash between him and his teacher, Mr. Gbenga Ogunleye on Friday 27 January 2012, there was slight confusion as to whether he was mature enough to take an oath.

But Ebuka himself came to the rescue as he claimed he was 18 years even though investigation by the state Ministry of Education revealed that he was over 20 years.

Immediately he started speaking in Pidgin English, the father felt embarrassed, put his face down and covered it with his palms as as the son explained the circumstances that led to his beating up his teacher.

Giving his own side of the story, Chukuebuka said: “I get to school in the morning. The teacher see me with sandal. He say make I remove my trouser, I say no l can’t remove it before everybody. [size=18pt]He double the cane, flog me, flog me and flog me.[/size] He flog me finish. He flog me until I fall for ground. He dey flog me. The cane too much. The wound too much. After, Vice Principal send me home make I go call my parent”.

Responding to a question by the Speaker, Chukuebuka, former student of Imo State Community School who joined United Senior Secondary School last year, said that he was not the only student punished for misconduct that day but he was the only one that violently reacted to the punishment.

His explanation irked the legislators as they unequivocally condemned him for his action.

They also condemned his father who was alleged to have led at least 10 of his colleagues into the school in three Customs’ vehicles, shooting indiscriminately and encouraged the son to beat up his teacher.

Kehinde Subair simply summarised his view by saying, “There is an act of indiscipline in the Ministry of Education which must be seriously addressed.”

Other legislators that condemned the student for his action were Ibrahim Bolomope representing Egbeda State Constituency and Ganiyu Adekunle from Atiba State Constituency.

Bolomope in his own contribution declared that the student’s father was not fit to be in Customs Service, stressing that his contribution to the incident was quite bad.

But Olusegun Olaleye, popularly called Radical, and the youngest in the Oyo House of Assembly, stood on the side of the students and pleaded with the House to temper justice with mercy.

He said that the erring student should be forgiven in the spirit of Valentine which preaches love.

He claimed that the student’s teacher was wrong to have brutalised the student. But he was shouted down by his colleagues and prevailed upon to take his seat.

Speaker Sumonu, however, gave two weeks to the three authorities: Oyo State Ministry of Education, Customs Service and the police to make their reports available to the House.

The student has been suspended.

The session was greeted with reaction from over 100 people that came to witness the session.

Most people could not comprehend why an SS3 student could not speak good English, saying that there is enough evidence to show that Nigeria’s educational system has completely collapsed.

A woman was heard saying, “Did they say that boy will sit for WAEC this year? What will he write in the examination? Unfortunately, the state government has paid for his examination. I think the state government should stop paying WAEC examination fees on behalf of students. Anybody that can’t pay should not sit for the exam because they cannot be wasting money on unserious students.

“There are many things the government can use our money to do."

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2012/02/15/ss3-student-opts-for-pidgin-at-assembly-probe/comment-page-1/#comment-203147

campella:

jidewin:

Bros,WHAT DID THE BOY DO?Lets put sentiment aside, I grew up in Ibadan and i know that (united secondary school)school very well.They should not pass the bulk of the blame on the poor preferences to NIGERIA's OFFICIAL SECOND LANGUAGE, PIDGIN.No tribe in Nigeria that does not understand pidgin."That school no get standard EFIAN"

However,the teacher went far far out of his boundary and the reaction of the house of assembly on such matter is biased.From the speaker to the cleaners.
If the case is allowed to go to court,trust me,the teacher will loose the case in 10 seconds,hands down.while it will be a case of no victor no vanquished.

Outstrip:

The teacher himself said the boy and his gang of friends were hanging out at the back of the school. Then he saw that they were not dressed appropriately he told them to remove their clothes. The boy apparently refused. That is coming from the teachers mouth. The teacher is a hooligan.

Okija_juju:

Please post the news and the link as this report seems to have only the testimony of the boy innit

pcicero:

@okija_juju
If all our posts on this thread are devoid of tribals sentiments (I know you have not taken that line), then we will all agree on the followings:
1. The teacher is not a model or a mentor. His actions are simply called child abuse\molestation etc. in saner climes. I am a product of a public secondary school (CMS Grammar School- public then), I know some teachers jostle to win the Nobel prize in flogging students.

2. The student, by his own admission, is a truant (that was what I wanted to point out with his age), who I assume feels his priviledged position makes him an 'untouchable'. I don't want you to gloss over this fact.

3. The father, who ought to have known the kind of child he has, became hysterical because a teacher beat up his boy. He got his men, about 10 in number to unleash mayhem on the hapless school.
In my opinion, I blame the kid's father more for the way he reacted. He could have handled it differently and if he had done something more civil, he would have gotten my commendation.

I condemn all the three principal actors for this.

Okija_juju:

Apparently, you want to turn this into an Igbo vs. Yoruba matter.

Anyways, if na so, what the father did was just to remind you ofemmanus that if you dare Bleep with us, we will Bleep you up right back.

NO teacher has the right to use a cane on a child. And even if they do, it is with reason and with reasonable force. The second he injured the boy, it became assualt, his greatest luck is that the boy was over 16, otherwise it would have been child abuse on minor and abuse of authority. When a teacher flogs a child, there are guifelines for flooging and that includes the fact that the strokes must be on the palm or the buttocks, must not cause bodily harm and must be within reason.

The teacher not only caused bodily harm, but did not adhere to the rules of engagement which tantamounts to an abuse of power. The teacher further compounded the situation by trying to humiliate the boy by stripping him butt Unclad which is a crime according CHAPTER IV, SECTION 3.3 to the constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria, which guarantees every citizen a RIGHT TO DIGINTY OF HUMAN PERSON.


I do not argue that the soldiers that accompanied the father were right for firing off shots in a school premises filled with children, but I can understand the fathers anger.

If I were to defend his  actions, I would call it TEMPORARY INSANITY.

emmatok:

Look here man,

Nobody give a hoot about your triabalistic views.

I do not support the teachers excessive actions.

But any adult (from the 70s-80s) who claims he never received beating form teachers is probably not telling the truth.

Must of us who attend Military schools(Command, Air-force, NMS etc) receive beating every time, yet our parent(military officers)never complained.

In most cases our COMMANDANTS disciplined us in the presence of our parent.

Why do you think rich parents(civilians) sent their kids to Military schools(Command, Air-force, NMS etc).For discipline.

Yet you call the action of an ordinary customs-man TEMPORARY INSANITY.

He should then go ahead and wipe out the whole school teachers for beating his ward.

Bloody civilians.

emmatok:

Look here man,

Nobody give a hoot about your triabalistic views.

I do not support the teachers excessive actions.

But any adult (from the 70s-80s) who claims he never received beating form teachers is probably not telling the truth.

Must of us who attend Military schools(Command, Air-force, NMS etc) receive beating every time, yet our parent(military officers)never complained.

In most cases our COMMANDANTS disciplined us in the presence of our parent.

Why do you think rich parents(civilians) sent their kids to Military schools(Command, Air-force, NMS etc).For discipline.

Yet you call the action of an ordinary customs-man TEMPORARY INSANITY.

He should then go ahead and wipe out the whole school teachers for beating his ward.

Bloody civilians.

pofolo:

Civilization should not make us all lose our long cherished tradition. See what have bcom of oyinbo pikins, wayward n unproductive.
Discipline is a watchward n a community responsibilty in africa.
Dont get me wrong, i do not support child molestation.
1. A bully student came to school late in palm slipper with his 'gang' and did not submit himself to frog jump punishment because his father is a customer officer.
That wasnt d 1st time it would have happened.
I once served in a school in eastern part of dis country n know what gross irresponsibilty, indiscipline n what have you goes on there.
The teacher 'flog' case was just a mere cover up by d student n his father,

My worry is for education in Nigeria,

mandy4$:

well it is there for us to see that the boy is a replica of his foolish father. can you imagine that the man brought his colleagues to shoot around the school.
that is exactly how the man has trained his bully-son. so now teachers can no longer met out punishment to students. as for his poor english, am not surprised neither do i pity the silly man called boy. he clearly does not deserve proper education because he'll waste. i think the father should be punished also for improper parenting conduct as would be obtainable in the western world,

mandy4$:

emmatok it is clear you are a fool!!!!1
a foolish fool who doesnt even know he is foolish, tarh!!! you make me sick, let me tell you, if you are military or belong to any force and think that gives you the right to bully people around, you better not cross me else i will kill you with my bare hands. i hate your kind, and if you think your destiny to suffer at military schools all in the name of training is another persons portion, God strike you dead with thunder, WEY NO SABI SPEAK ENGLISH (COMMON ENGLISH SEF), FOOLISH MILITARY



OKIJA_JUJU that was not my point but does that deserve shooting on the school compound? What if a stray bullet fell students? what would your juju mouth say
that shows carelessnes and callousness on the part of the father who brags about being military. as for school, u must be silly to ask that question. i think nairaland should 0begin reviewing peoples accout to accertain thier true age or beta still introduce maturity test, mumu

mandy4$:

well it is there for us to see that the boy is a replica of his foolish father. can you imagine that the man brought his colleagues to shoot around the school.
that is exactly how the man has trained his bully-son. so now teachers can no longer met out punishment to students. as for his poor english, am not surprised neither do i pity the silly man called boy. he clearly does not deserve proper education because he'll waste. i think the father should be punished also for improper parenting conduct as would be obtainable in the western world,

pato405:

@emmatok

from the tenor of your speech, it's not far-fetched that you are not a civilian. I can confidently take a guess that you are most certainly a military man because the word ''bloody civilian'' is most commonly used by them.

well, need I remind you that you are a ground soldier [if you are 1] and you are not any where near being a soldier on this forum. such uncouth terms should be used only within your physical domains and not on an e-platform of this kind.

i'll feel like unleashing my verbal arsenal on you right now and hitting you hard with e-missiles. 'cos i'm an e-soldier - a GENERAL!

BE WARNED!!

mandy4$:

emmatok it is clear you are a fool!!!!1
a foolish fool who doesnt even know he is foolish, tarh!!! you make me sick,  let me tell you, if you are military or belong to any force and think that gives you the right to bully people around, you better not cross me else i will kill you with my bare hands. i hate your kind,  and if you think your destiny to suffer at military schools all in the name of training is another persons portion, God strike you dead with thunder, WEY NO SABI SPEAK ENGLISH (COMMON ENGLISH SEF), FOOLISH MILITARY



OKIJA_JUJU that was not my point but does that deserve shooting on the school compound? What if a stray bullet fell students? what would your juju mouth say
that shows carelessnes and callousness on the part of the father who brags about being military. as for school, u must be silly to ask that question. i think nairaland should 0begin reviewing peoples accout to accertain thier true age or beta still introduce maturity test, mumu