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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mordyb: 10:51pm On Mar 26, 2015
Don't understand jack about this even though I passed economics I have some little money I have saved and want to invest in this but am so scared my money will disappear with no one to hold if anything goes wrong

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by cee001(m): 11:33pm On Mar 26, 2015
deebsman1:
Am having difficulty calculating the t-bill return, i will like someone to please tell me the exact amount of what N1,000,000.00 will return in 91day at the rate of 10.5%. is it N105,000.00? no mind my olodo ooo grin
issokay smiley...I=PRT/100..P=1,000,000 R=10.5% T=91/364(take note,I guess this is where the issue is. You said 91days nt 1yr.So u express it as a fraction of 364)
therefore..I=1,000,000×10.5×91/100×364 ..this brings u to something around #26,250 ...do u get it now.. I STAND TO BE CORRECTED THOUGH....we r all learners

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by princeuk21(m): 8:27pm On Mar 27, 2015
deebsman1:
Am having difficulty calculating the t-bill return, i will like someone to please tell me the exact amount of what N1,000,000.00 will return in 91day at the rate of 10.5%. is it N105,000.00? no mind my olodo ooo grin
indeed. your interest should be 5naira or maybe am wrong you can read from page 1 to know about NTB and how to calculate your interest. smiley
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by deebsman1(m): 10:03am On Mar 28, 2015
princeuk21:
indeed. your interest should be 5naira or maybe am wrong you can read from page 1 to know about NTB and how to calculate your interest. smiley

must you?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by xplicit01(f): 7:06am On Mar 31, 2015
I have a question great NL investors:

N.B: pls if d question has bn answered, do kindly refer me to d page,... Tnx!

HOW DOES THE MATURING VALUE FOR A PARTICULAR BID DAY AFFECT THE STOP RATE and HOW DOES IT GUIDE US AS TO RATE TO BID TO REDUCE THEINCIDENCE OF UNSUCCESSFUL BID?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Seun(m): 7:24am On Mar 31, 2015
Mordyb:
Don't understand jack about this even though I passed economics I have some little money I have saved and want to invest in this but am so scared my money will disappear with no one to hold if anything goes wrong
The CBN cannot run out of Naira just as the sea cannot run out of water. Your money will not disappear. It's risk free in that respect. However there is no guarantee that the money will still have value when you are paid back, due to inflation possibly increasing during the tenure.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by fxstory(m): 1:01pm On Mar 31, 2015
cee001:
issokay smiley...I=PRT/100..P=1,000,000 R=10.5% T=91/364(take note,I guess this is where the issue is. You said 91days nt 1yr.So u express it as a fraction of 364)
therefore..I=1,000,000×10.5×91/100×364 ..this brings u to something around #26,250 ...do u get it now.. I STAND TO BE CORRECTED THOUGH....we r all learners
correct.26178.calculation is 10.5/100 X 1000,000 which equals 105000.now you will divide the amount by 365days which quals 287.6712xxx. Now you will multiply the amout by the number of days you want to invest it.since its 91days, then it becomes 91X287.6712xxx which equals #26178 as your returns
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by princeuk21(m): 4:49pm On Mar 31, 2015
Mordyb:
Don't understand jack about this even though I passed economics I have some little money I have saved and want to invest in this but am so scared my money will disappear with no one to hold if anything goes wrong
your money is safe but inflation is the issue
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Marpol: 10:30pm On Mar 31, 2015
Savings or Current?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by inze(m): 10:33pm On Mar 31, 2015
Marpol:
What type of account is needed for buying treasury bills? Savings or Current?

@Marpol himself

A savings account will do
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Marpol: 10:36pm On Mar 31, 2015
inze:


@Marpol himself

A savings account will do

Thanks chief. I remain loyal
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Marpol: 10:38pm On Mar 31, 2015
So basically i just walk into my banj and tell them i would like to bid for treasury bills?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by princeuk21(m): 10:42pm On Mar 31, 2015
Marpol:
So basically i just walk into my banj and tell them i would like to bid for treasury bills?
yes
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Marpol: 10:45pm On Mar 31, 2015
princeuk21:
yes

Thanks bro. Information is really power.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Marpol: 10:46pm On Mar 31, 2015
Please when is the next bidding coming up?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ernie4life(m): 10:53pm On Mar 31, 2015
Marpol:
Please when is the next bidding coming up? I would love to bid for the 90days tenure.

next week Wednesday
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Marpol: 10:54pm On Mar 31, 2015
ernie4life:


next week Wednesday


Thanks.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Marpol: 7:56am On Apr 01, 2015
Kindly help out oh am a newbie in this.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by inze(m): 8:37am On Apr 01, 2015
Marpol:
I want to bid for 91days. What rate do you advice I put. Kindly help out oh am a newbie in this.

It's good to go by bank rate as a starter. When you place a bid lower than the stop rate, your bill won't be processed.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Marpol: 10:54am On Apr 01, 2015
inze:


It's good to go by bank rate as a starter. When you place a bid lower than the stop rate, your bill won't be processed.

Na wah oh. Too much terms and terminology here oh. Which one is stop rate please?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by inze(m): 2:50pm On Apr 01, 2015
Marpol:


Na wah oh. Too much terms and terminology here oh. Which one is stop rate please?

A good reason why you'll have to read this thread from page 1

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zeelo2014: 3:51pm On Apr 01, 2015
Marpol:
I want to bid for 91days. What rate do you advice I put. Kindly help out oh am a newbie in this.
Don't get discouraged.
1. walk into the bank of ur choice or any branch of ur bank where ur money is, ask them for their current rate.
They'll give u 3 offers, which will be around 91 days,182 days, 365 days at different rates can range from 9% - 15%. Could be higher depends on period.
2. write a letter addressed to the branch manager, stating ur account,the amount u wish to invest and the tenor,which is the number of days U've chosed.
3. Ur account will be debited but leaving u ur interest. which is the face value. A notification should be sent to ur email with the details.

To calculate ur interest for example on N1.2 mil at a rate of 10.5% for 91days

1200000 × 10.5/100 = 126000
so u get N126000 for a period of 365 days
But u went with 91 days , so...
365÷91= 4.011, I don't know how many decimal places bankers use.

Then....

126000÷4.011= 31,413.61
Ur interest on N1.2mil for 91days at 10.5% N31,413

Face value: N1.2 mil
Discounted value: 1,200,000 - 31,413 = 1,168,587
N1,168,587 will be debited from ur account which implies that ur interest has been paid upfront.


Bid, when u can predict what CBN rates will be. If u bid higher then u lose our and wait till the next time. It's done thru ur bank.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Marpol: 3:58pm On Apr 01, 2015
inze:


A good reason why you'll have to read this thread from page 1

What does this mean?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by inze(m): 4:30pm On Apr 01, 2015
Marpol:


First Bank is saying that the discount rate is: At the successful bid rate. What does this mean?

Bros no Vex, invest 1hour or so in reading these pages. Answers are within, we would only be repeating what had been discussed over and over again.

If you value your 10kobo, then you ought to know how well to protect it while investing.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by joesandy(m): 4:43pm On Apr 01, 2015
Do T bills have compounding?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Marpol: 5:06pm On Apr 01, 2015
inze:


Bros no Vex, invest 1hour or so in reading these pages. Answers are within, we would only be repeating what had been discussed over and over again.

If you value your 10kobo, then you ought to know how well to protect it while investing.

I took your advice.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Damolux01(m): 7:00am On Apr 02, 2015
joesandy:
Do T bills have compounding?
Yes...you re-invest it.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by princeuk21(m): 8:36am On Apr 02, 2015
joesandy:
Do T bills have compounding?
you can roll over your invested fund and the interest if u choose to.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by seemples(f): 11:38am On Apr 02, 2015
My ogas please kindly help answer..

I took out an 82day TB from the secondary market that will be maturing in 2months time but now I urgently have to make use of that money and need it liquidated.

I have contacted the account officer in the bank and he said there's no guarantee it will be terminated.

Abeg kindly advise me , thanks all
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Eisenhower(m): 1:53pm On Apr 02, 2015
Please people, just got interested in treasury bill investments. I want to know if I can start small with let say 15-25k in buying treasury bill at the next auction and which bank is the best bet cos I run bi with fidelity bank ,first bank,GTbank, and wema bank.
I want to be part of the next auction on April 9th..
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by unite4real: 3:33pm On Apr 02, 2015
Eisenhower:
Please people, just got interested in treasury bill investments. I want to know if I can start small with let say 15-25k in buying treasury bill at the next auction and which bank is the best bet cos I run bi with fidelity bank ,first bank,GTbank, and wema bank.
I want to be part of the next auction on April 9th..

sorry, with that amount most banks will bounce you. and if at all it is accepted, the profit wont make any sense to you and wont be worth the stress of going to the bank. the more money you invest, the clearer the profit looks.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Eisenhower(m): 11:46pm On Apr 02, 2015
unite4real:


sorry, with that amount most banks will bounce you. and if at all it is accepted, the profit wont make any sense to you and wont be worth the stress of going to the bank. the more money you invest, the clearer the profit looks.
Thanks...

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