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Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by TRUTHTELA: 7:20am On Mar 09, 2012
I could not wrap my mind around this whole thing about Nigerians & their LOVE to celebrate INTERNATIONAL ROGUES locally.

Ibori was (is) worshiped in Nigeria,but a sane society identified him with the RIGHT name " A THIEF in the Govt. house"& have placed him where he belongs.

How can any SANE mind PRAISE, CELEBRATE, or attached GREATNESS to a COMMON THIEF like Obasanjo? If people know what a LEGACY is, the type someone like Mandela, left for his country & Africa & the world, they will lock down Obasanjo back in Jail.

Is it the public funds he stole thru Andy Uba, Dangote,Waziri Mohammed, his daughter, et al or the court judgments he disobeyed? or Governors that he illegally removed from office? &installed thieves as Sates Governors &presidents? or the constitution he disrespected through his 3rd term agenda? etc.

After all the daft praises on his purported birthday, I now believed the saying " A PEOPLE GETS THE LEADER THEY DESERVE".

What is good in Obasanjo (EVIL)?
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by kettykin: 7:23am On Mar 09, 2012
the only true billionaire is dangote, who was helped by all govt from ibb till date, femi otedola and adenuga are over estimated otedola is owing banks more than 2 billion dollars, and adenuga doesnt have much , glo is not his own and glo is not realling doing well with all the salary cuts and competition from etisalat and airtel , his bank has been distressed and sold too,his only option is con oil which has competitors
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by pat077: 7:25am On Mar 09, 2012
lagcity:

I need to provide facts/figures that Abacha hated Yoruba? Really? Yoruba was out of the picture, so the PTF cake was left for Hausa and Igbo. I hope u r not just another diasporean who left naija during the 80s cheesy. Dude, you've lost touch completely. Orji Kalu was mad at OBJ for taking back the oil license that the Military gave to him. What abt that Kanu (daniel kanu or something like that) efulefu who campaigned for Abacha's transition.


and is arisekola an Igboman?
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by lagcity(m): 7:29am On Mar 09, 2012
pat077:

and is arisekola an Igboman?

So u ppl are no longer claiming others shared war booty. I showed u the Igbos who also shared war booty and all u could do is ask me a stupid question.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by TRUTHTELA: 7:30am On Mar 09, 2012
Local thieves surviving on BANK LOANS & STOLEN PUBLIC FUNDS. A slow dunce, talking loud about two thieves DANGOTE & ADENUGA, fronting for bigger thieves, OBASANJO & IBB, respectively. You should ask yourself that, WHY IS IT THAT YOU & YOUR GENERATIONS UNBORN will be swamped with POVERTY,DARKNESS, UNEMPLOYMENT, &LACK OF BASIC THINGS OF LIFE? It's caused by the thieves you're here to celebrate.

FYI, all they are parading is ILL GOTTEN WEALTH. Abiola was richer & louder, but where is his WEALTH & EMPIRE today? Sooner or Later they will go the same route like Abiola,cos the source of their wealth is well known by " dem dem" & One of them will mess them up they way IBB & ABACHA MESSED UP ABIOLA.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by lagcity(m): 7:30am On Mar 09, 2012
kettykin:

the only true billionaire is dangote, who was helped by all govt from ibb till date, femi otedola and adenuga are over estimated otedola is owing banks more than 2 billion dollars, and adenuga doesnt have much , glo is not his own and glo is not realling doing well with all the salary cuts and competition from etisalat and airtel , his bank has been distressed and sold too,his only option is con oil which has competitors

wow, u really have it down pat uhn? Maybe u shld go and become Editor at Forbes.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by lagcity(m): 7:34am On Mar 09, 2012
TRUTHTELA:

Local thieves surviving on BANK LOANS & STOLEN PUBLIC FUNDS. A slow dunce, talking loud about two thieves DANGOTE & ADENUGA, fronting for bigger thieves, OBASANJO & IBB, respectively. You should ask yourself that, WHY IS IT THAT YOU & YOUR GENERATIONS UNBORN will be swamped with POVERTY,DARKNESS, UNEMPLOYMENT, &LACK OF BASIC THINGS OF LIFE? It's caused by the thieves you're here to celebrate.

FYI, all they are parading is ILL GOTTEN WEALTH. Abiola was richer & louder, but where is his WEALTH & EMPIRE today? Sooner or Later they will go the same route like Abiola,cos the source of their wealth is well known by " dem dem" & One of them will mess them up they way IBB & ABACHA MESSED UP ABIOLA.


stop that moral BS. we all know how the game goes in Nigeria. the real question is how did others manage to outsteal the Igbos in this Naija? It is a shock to me, u ppl are losing your talents seriously. cheesy this is like eating more burgers than the americans; it is inconceivable!!
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by juman(m): 7:36am On Mar 09, 2012
Haa Haaa! grin grin grin

This thread is interesting. grin

Most of the rich men in nigeria today are  fronting for the THIEVES in government.

Nothing special making the Forbes List joor.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by moHot(f): 7:39am On Mar 09, 2012
When will people stop this tribalistic BS, reason why i don't like visiting this section lipsrsealed
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by TRUTHTELA: 7:40am On Mar 09, 2012
A lost GENERATION. how can someone with a debased mind celebrate these two rouges? Check out the Forbes list, you can only see MEN that used their IDEAS ( Facebook founder &co) to create WEALTH. The source of their BILLIONS is TRANSPARENT & WELL DOCUMENTED. There have never been any link between these BILLIONAIRES & their Govts or FRAUD. But, in your Banana republic, Adenuga ran away from Nigeria, when Ribadu wanted to investigate him & his FRAUDULENT establishments and I can tell you AUTHORITATIVELY, that Dangote, simply invested the public funds Obasanjo stole from the Nigerian TREASURY,through Andy Uba. FYI, David Mark, has over 25% stake in Globacom. @OP weep for your soul & generations yet to be born. Y'all are gone.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by TRUTHTELA: 7:45am On Mar 09, 2012
Dangotes is in FORBES, but his region has the highest rate of POVERTY in the WORLD. Actually, a Govt official called the Northern Nigeria, " THE WRETCHED OF THE EARTH. SW, both as a people & as a region is not in any way better than the SE,bring your facts on the table, do not fool yourself because of one THIEF. SE, people are major players in every SECTOR of Nigeria, POLITICS, BANKING, TELECOM OIL&GAS, COMMERCE, etc. So whats the NOISE?
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by lagcity(m): 7:51am On Mar 09, 2012
TRUTHTELA:

[color=#990000]Dangotes is in FORBES, but his region has the highest rate of POVERTY in the WORLD. Actually, a Govt official called the Northern Nigeria, " THE WRETCHED OF THE EARTH. SW, both as a people & as a region is not in any way better than the SE,bring your facts on the table, do not fool yourself because of one THIEF. [b]SE, people are major players in every SECTOR of Nigeria, POLITICS, BANKING, TELECOM OIL&GAS, COMMERCE, etc. So whats the NOISE?[/[/b]color]

i agree with this. But u ppl are losing the stealing olympics. u ppl want Yoruba to stand out in this area uhn? backstabbers cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by TRUTHTELA: 7:53am On Mar 09, 2012
ABIOLA, STOLE FROM ( ITT, A TELECOM PROJECT),he became wealthy, was celebrated, became the a PHILANTHROPIST with high repute. DANGOTE, OTEDOLA, ADENUGA, ANDY UBA etc, they continued from where Abiola stopped & they will all end up they way he (abiola) ended. All of these thieves are yet to match ABIOLA's record, it terms of wealth ,popularity, philanthropy, etc, yet, all his STOLEN wealth was destroyed by a man he once called a ' BEST FRIEND" ( ibb). Go & read your Nigeria's history book,then, you will WISE UP.  
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by TRUTHTELA: 8:16am On Mar 09, 2012
FYI, you can write any trash as you want. I don't LOG on here to involve in any debased TRIBAL arguments. I say the TRUTH as I see it. You can say  MILLIONS  of GOOD things about your TRIBE,it will not CHANGE FACTS & THE REALITIES on ground. Thieves, treasury looters, fraudsters (419), ritual killers, bad governance, lack of basic infrastructure is the ORDER of the DAY in Nigeria, ( 36 states). Debased R.etards should quit all the noise they keep making on NL. Western Govts,tell their citizens DO NOT GO TO nigeria (not SE). South Africa deported Nigerians ( not Igbos). Nigeria is a FAILED NATION ( not SE). Nigerian Passport is a TABOO overseas, not ( SE PASSPORT) A Nigerian former Governor pleads guilty in a London court ( they did not mention his tribe) etc. Its all NIGERIA, NIGERIA & NIGERIA!!! The mistake of 1914 & the FOOLISHNESS of 2012

OP & his ilks WOE UNTO Y'all.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by bedane: 9:33am On Mar 09, 2012
Sorry dude but we Igbo's are happy having the wealth go round than for it to be amassed by one man all in the name of Forbes list. My brothers what i saw in Lagos this week made me proud of you all please keep it up we Igbo's will never stoop low and beg for food.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by PROUDIGBO(m): 12:22pm On Mar 09, 2012
lagcity:

I need to provide facts/figures that Abacha hated Yoruba? Really? Yoruba was out of the picture, so the PTF cake was left for Hausa and Igbo. I hope u r not just another diasporean who left naija during the 80s cheesy. Dude, you've lost touch completely. Orji Kalu was mad at OBJ for taking back the oil license that the Military gave to him. What abt that Kanu (daniel kanu or something like that) efulefu who campaigned for Abacha's transition.



^^^ You've done nothing but regurgitate beer parlour gossip and conjecture to try and burtress your claim that Abacha favoured Igbos over Yorubas. At the very least, Abacha cared for no one else but his people, and bringing up the emotional state of Orji Kalu over a purported business disagreement with OBJ doesn't cut it.

No one said Igbos are perfect, and you can find the pathetic likes of kanu in any ethnic group. So if the fool supported Abacha, that somehow equates to the Igbo Nation supporting and gaining from the Abacha gov't?
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by babyboy3(m): 12:33pm On Mar 09, 2012
Hardly would you see an Igbo begging. Go figure.


Fancy a trip to Milan or Rome
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by manchy7531: 1:00pm On Mar 09, 2012
@OP
Majority of Igbo men are worth more than $5 Billion but trust me you will never see an igbo-man's statement of account, because they are wise with money and don't want anyone pock nosing on them so forget all those Forbes story as there are many more richer men in the world but are silent and mature, okay

lest i forget. you are just happy that you man made Forbes list.don't forget igbo-men were the richest blackmen in the world even before Nigeria and Forbes list where created.

have you forgotten Ojukwu's father "Sir louis Ojukwu"  was the richest black man in his days before Nigeria's independence and the founding father of the Nigerian stock exchange?am sure your grand-father was soking garri with palm-carnel nut for lunch to be eaten with bear hands at that time.


There is nothing a yoruba man and hausa man has done in this country Nigeria that an igbo man has not done better and show a yoruba achiever and i will show you ten greater igbo achievers.Igbos will always lead the way cos we are the chosen ones.


well am not suprise yoruba's will always celebrate thieves, the way OBJ,Bank Ole, Thief Nu BU,Bode George,Mike Adenuga,Otedola femi(dat one don reck already), the list is endless.

just tell me one Yoruba and Hausa man that is self made without government or exploration and i will tell millions of igbos that are self made without political help including myself.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by Yeske2(m): 1:19pm On Mar 09, 2012
Same reason i believe Nigerians are crazy and this country will remain what it is - a cesspit
How can you celebrate someone who we all know how he got his wealth(government patronage ) and his fellow citizens are living in abject poverty? I would rather be a citizen of an egalitarian society to one with a high Gini index, compare Denmark and the USA then SE and NW in Nigeria. Go figure out the stats. Make una clap for una sef because Aliko and Adenuga enter Forbes list, forget the millions of beggars wey dey mill around them.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by ak47mann(m): 1:34pm On Mar 09, 2012
shocked shocked OP is insane talking about powerful tribe like igbos cool
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by Eziachi: 1:51pm On Mar 09, 2012
grin grin grin grin grin grin This s the kind of thread that makes you proud of being born an Igbo man inside the cesspit called Nigeria.  That someone with 9000 head start in a 10000m race is ready to compare?

In 1970 just like the Nazis, your fathers stole our wealth/sweat and gave us N2O (Nig Pounds) to go and possibly die (they wished) but two years later they are begging us to come and buy their lands and old dilapidated properties for cash. This people has no shame

I got news for you hate bigots, before Forbes was even born, there exist Sir Louis Odumegwu Ojukwu and Anyiam Osigwe.  Their wealth was genuine, not from overnight govt contract riches, not from oil bloc that is not from their land. Did Adenuga, Dangote etc has rich fathers, so what is their begining? Which bank did they borrow their startup capital from?  Which year and how much DID THEY BORROW?
Or did they work their way up as employees of a firm, and how much is theIR pay annually?  And how long did it take them to save up a capital? Ask any genuine rich person, from Brandson to Gate the source of their wealth, they will tell their begining, from their first penny, not from our socalled forbe Nigerians.

We may happily not be in your Forbe  list but we must be on top out there as the group with the largest middle class in the entire third world. Where schools, hospitals, roads, water are provided for many years without govt imput including ur self built Sam Mbakwe airport. You may be happy your unexplained billionaires with forbes, but Biafrans are equally happy with their millions of thousanaires. We rather have a million millionaires than a single billionaire whose wealths, Fela Kuti once termed international theif=theif, of whch no one knew where it came from.

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Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by kettykin: 2:09pm On Mar 09, 2012
The only real Nigerian Billionaire is louis Ojukwu, the other Billionaires mentioned by Forbes are leaches, parasites and AGIP (any government in power)
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by kettykin: 2:23pm On Mar 09, 2012
Dangote made his money from using Government patronage to stop rivals, he did it in 1989 by getting IBB to ban importation of Rice and lift the importation for only him, he also did it during OBJ regime by stopping people like Ibeto using OBJ , buying up government companies like Benue cement and texaco using MRS.

Adenuga set up Glo using money that Atiku syncated from PTDF and sent to TIB Bank which gave Adenuga the loan to set up Glo
Adenuga was also caught bribing BPE officials to reduce the price f National Oil which he bough at an undervalued price.

to worsen the matter OBJ as busy using EFCC to harrass innocent Governors whose only crime is that they didnt suppor his regime and was busy selling national assets like the refinery which he later sold to Dangote and Otedola at give away prices , please compare the price the bought the refineries with the price of builing similar refineries in anywhere in the world.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by manchy7531: 4:21pm On Mar 09, 2012
", From available information at our disposal, pieced together from publications by the World Bank and United Nations, there is a very strong correlation between some demographic factors and poverty in Nigeria. Firstly, there are more poor people in the rural areas relative to the urban centres; and poverty is disproportionately concentrated in families whose primary livelihood is agriculture. Secondly, and within these agricultural households, 75 per cent in the North are poor compared with 59.3 per cent in the South. This underlines the preponderance of poverty in the North relative to the South. Thirdly, and in terms of geographical distribution, the highest concentration of poverty, at close to 70 per cent of the population, is in the North-East, followed by the North-West and North-Central in approximately the same proportion of more than 60 per cent of the population. The zone with the least proportion of poverty incidence is the South-East at about 33 per cent, closely followed by the South-West at about 42 per cent, and South-South at about 50 per cent, "

- Olufemi Adebiyi, "Poverty, education and Boko Haram", The Punch, Lagos, Monday 13 February 2012.
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by EzeUche(m): 4:24pm On Mar 09, 2012
Igbos are good at hiding their money.  undecided
Re: Yoruba Man, Hausa Man, But No Biafran, On Forbes List. . . by manchy7531: 4:35pm On Mar 09, 2012
Poverty, education and Boko Haram
February 13, 2012 by Olufemi Adebiyi

There is no single, universally accepted, definition of poverty. This is because poverty is multidimensional. However, it is not uncommon to describe poverty as a general state of deprivation or as Baker says, “A state of being deficient in money or means of subsistence.”

In recent times, poverty has been frequently defined relative to the standards of living in a society. Thus, it is recognised when all available income is spent on food and the results still fall below a certain minimum level of calories. Recently available information places Nigeria at number 154 out of 179 countries on the Human Development Index, but Nigeria is a frontrunner on the Global Hunger Index, coasting in at number 20!

The causes of poverty in Nigeria are fairly obvious to all. They include the pervasive corruption in the land where very few got everything while the majority got nothing or mere pittance. Failure to distribute the commonwealth equitably has led to economic polarisation or the widening of the gap between the rich and the poor as well as the near total elimination of the Middle class. The pursuit of growth as an end in itself as opposed to a means to improving the well-being of the citizens is also a prime factor. Until the recent weeklong national strike and demonstrations against the removal of fuel subsidy, all major attempts by the government to create employment opportunities (especially for the youths) have been more of sloganeering, with specialised agencies of government set up for this purpose failing to make the desired impact. As a matter of fact, most (if not all) of the agencies are grossly dysfunctional, with little or no systemic coordination of their activities. The National Poverty Eradication Programme, which was set up primarily to coordinate all poverty alleviation programmes in Nigeria as a way of putting this major policy in focus, became an institution for the direct implementation of programmes without the necessary capacity to do so.

[b]From available information at our disposal, pieced together from publications by the World Bank and United Nations, there is a very strong correlation between some demographic factors and poverty in Nigeria. Firstly, there are more poor people in the rural areas relative to the urban centres; and poverty is disproportionately concentrated in families whose primary livelihood is agriculture. Secondly, and within these agricultural households, 75 per cent in the North are poor compared with 59.3 per cent in the South. This underlines the preponderance of poverty in the North relative to the South. Thirdly, and in terms of geographical distribution, the highest concentration of poverty, at close to 70 per cent of the population, is in the North-East, followed by the North-West and North-Central in approximately the same proportion of more than 60 per cent of the population. The zone with the least proportion of poverty incidence is the South-East at about 33 per cent, closely followed by the South-West at about 42 per cent, and South-South at about 50 per cent.[/b]

Also from available data, the incidence of poverty in Nigeria decreases with increasing levels of education; and this is where the worry of policymakers should be. Poverty is highest in households without education and least in households with post-secondary education. The highest concentration of the poor as well as the least educated in Nigeria is in the North-East, and this is the base of Boko Haram, which literarily means ‘Western education is sinful or bad. Although leaders of the sect have claimed their actual name is Jamaatu Ahlil Sunna Lidawati wal Jihad, the group has not hidden its hatred for the West and ‘western education’, even if its members are using the products of the West, such as automobiles, mobile phones, assorted guns, motorcycles and even the western bomb-making technology to prosecute their campaign.

In our view, the greatest policy challenge the government has to confront is helping the North, especially the North-East’, to deal with illiteracy and poverty. Firstly, there should be a massive sensitisation and awareness creation in the North and the message is that there is no substitute to education in the 21st Century. Someone once said that if anyone thinks knowledge is expensive, the person should try ignorance. In the part of the country where I come from, there is a saying which, in literary translation, means ‘A child is stupid, but the parent says let the child not just die; what kills faster than stupidity?’. The people must first be convinced that education is good and it is in their best interest to be open to learning. I once read somewhere that the illiterate of this century will be those who refuse to learn, re-learn and unlearn. The first step in learning is for someone to know what he does not know but which he needs to know. That is the role of sensitisation and awareness creation. The 21st Century person must understand and appreciate how to respect the sanctity of life and the right of other people to live and be entitled to their opinion. It is the beginning of the development of a sound mind. If a person has learnt or believed anything to the contrary, then he has to un-learn whatever it is and re-learn what is universally adjudged as the fundamental principle of normal, sane living.

The Boko Haram phenomenon, though may have political dimensions as is being frequently canvassed, is in my view more poverty and education-related; and efforts to correct this anomaly should represent the focus of policy. A person with no education and who has no means of livelihood will likely place little or no value on his life, and his mind could be negatively twisted or influenced with ease. We must draw a comparison with the young man who set himself ablaze in Tunisia, which triggered the Arab Spring, and his counterpart in Nigeria who in the process of committing suicide decided to kill other innocent people. While the Tunisian was educated and would rather die alone in protest against social deprivation, his Boko Haram counterpart in Nigeria, who is most likely an illiterate and has therefore been easily brain-washed, would for one morsel of food kill himself and other innocent people without qualms. It must be noted from their tactics that none of the leaders of Boko Haram wants to die (at least the last one that was shown on television was, ironically, wearing a bullet-proof vest!), but they have many foot soldiers who are socially deprived and would, therefore, readily serve as cheap canon fodder.

The promotion of education should be an emergency in many parts of Northern Nigeria, and the Federal Government must nudge the state governments in this regard. The Federal Government must deliberately do this because some of the politicians at the helm of affairs in some of these Northern states, who are benefitting from the status quo, may not see or appreciate the sense of urgency. In the North, the opportunity cost of sending children to school is the main reason for not enrolling or for dropping out of school, and not the issue of school fees. This is why the North has more children out of school despite the fact that most of them are implementing free education. There is a need to deliberately adopt moral suasion and appropriate sensitisation techniques to check incidents of child labour and early marriage/betrothal. I know this is an uphill task, especially when cognisance is taken of how deep-rooted this problem is in the North. It may be recalled that a senator, who hails from the North, reportedly married a minor not too long ago and this became a matter of public discourse. If Nigeria must remain one indissoluble country, which is our great desire and prayer, then this issue must be given topmost priority.

High youth unemployment is a major threat to our future. It is even worse when the affected youths are illiterate. The dividing line between an illiterate adult in this century and a mad man is very thin. Just put any of the modern technological tools, especially those that are lethal in operation in his hand, and this point will be more vivid to understand. If you do not believe, ask anyone who has given any of today’s modern cars to his old mechanic for repairs and his experience will convince you. Lack of education is a poverty-aggravating point, and unless geographical targeting, with bias towards the North is given urgent priority, then all of us – the rich and the poor alike (since this government does not like the middle class and will want it exterminated at all cost) – should forget about sleeping with two eyes closed. It is not too late. The traditional institutions should be engaged in this awareness campaign about education. It is the surest way to tackle the Boko Haram phenomenon from its root.

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