nancyekpoh: I am beginning to get piss off by the things this man says, the other time was that self service was good and this time is that there is nothing wrong with alcohol and cigarette, even when he knows that cigarette is dangerous to health, well see what the Bible says about taking alcohol in Proverbs 20:1. Well my advice is be not deceived for God is not mocked for whatever a man sows that he will reap. Again never be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings. please take heed.

go and watch again, he did not say self service is good, he said it wasn't a sin but it could be a bad habit. there is a difference between "bad habit" and "sin". it is only the study of the scripture that can teach you the difference not your assumption. Jesus said be careful "how you hear" "what you hear" luk 8:18.

PAQ: Naija!! Jesus Christ did not turn water into fruit juice, he turned it into wine. Wine features prominently in d Bible, not zobo or juice...... Alcohol is bad when abused like wise smoking, d challenge is fighting d addiction. I bet some of u will say smoking a pipe is no sin but cigarrettes are....

i love pastor Chris, he's never timid to say the truth.

there was a time when wearing of trousers by ladies and uncovering hair was sin in naija until Pastor chris showed up. today all the pastors that condemned him are enlightened and accepted have it when they stopped their ignorant assumptions and went back to study their bibles, while some are yet to understand these things.

sad-to-see and far-to-see

toorich:

According to the law of the old testament given by Moses, the children of Isreal were not to LovePeddler after other gods but to serve God with all their might. there were consequences for idolatry, those who do such were to be cut out and destroyed one way or the other, most times God delivers the whole nation to their enemies when they go after other gods and refuse to repent. Elijah functioned in the old testament and did what God commanded them to do to idolaters according to the law of Moses, so according to the law under which he functioned, he was justified.

your point?

Good answer!

If Elijah was justified, why did GOD send him to earth again only to suffer the same fate (had his head cut off)?

my opinion in all of this may not b any different 4rm those dat has alighned wit d presumed meaning 2 d reply accreditted 2 pastoe chris.in d scriptures wines features prominently as fud for merriment,medicatn & symbolism.outright condemnation is not profezd 4 iz consmption by d scripture but went ahead 2 demand a high xter in iz usage.

Effect of wine - Mr. Noah in Gen 9:21 And he drank of the wine,
and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
The instruction- Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine,
wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Why?- 1 Cor 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous
shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither
fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,
nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous,
nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
For those who think otherwise- Prov 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish...

For those who argued that there is no specific reference to
this in the Bible, There is neither any reference to
‘do not stay on the road when a vehicle is coming’, yet you run,
why? It is because it is part of the ‘11th commandment’.
You have sense to run away from an oncoming vehicle.
You should have sense to run away from everything that
is ungodly whether you are told or not.

tunde233: Effect of wine - Mr. Noah in Gen 9:21 And he drank of the wine,
and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
The instruction- Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine,
wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Why?- 1 Cor 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous
shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither
fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,
nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous,
nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
For those who think otherwise- Prov 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish...

For those who argued that there is no specific reference to
this in the Bible, There is neither any reference to
‘do not stay on the road when a vehicle is coming’, yet you run,
why? It is because it is part of the ‘11th commandment’.
You have sense to run away from an oncoming vehicle.
You should have sense to run away from everything that
is ungodly whether you are told or not.

And your point is?

Drinking & smoking is a part of the 11th commandment. . . . . So when Jesus drank, changed water to wine and gave us the command to drink in remembrance of him, He sinned, manufactured a sinful drink and commaneded future generation to sin in his remembrance. . . . Is that what you are saying sir?!

rastamouse:

Good answer!

If Elijah was justified, why did GOD send him to earth again only to suffer the same fate (had his head cut off)?

Elijah is not john the baptist, neither is john the baptist Elijah

That John the baptist was sent in the spirit of Elijah does not mean Elijah was to reincarnate. It meant john the baptist will function in the likelihood of Elijah with same zeal and prophetic auction.

Elijah was long dead n gone to paradise before John. Remember Elijah appeared with Jesus in the transfiguration while John was still alive in herold's prison.

So God didn't send Elijah back in the name of john the baptist, the scriptures taught they will have same prophetic ministry. So U̶̲̥̅̊ see God don't do reincarnation neither was he trying to punish Elijah.

It was herald that killed John the baptist not God.

toorich:

Elijah is not john the baptist, neither is john the baptist Elijah

That John the baptist was sent in the spirit of Elijah does not mean Elijah was to reincarnate. It meant john the baptist will function in the likelihood of Elijah with same zeal and prophetic auction.

Elijah was long dead n gone to paradise before John. Remember Elijah appeared with Jesus in the transfiguration while John was still alive in herold's prison.

So God didn't send Elijah back in the name of john the baptist, the scriptures taught they will have same prophetic ministry. So U̶̲̥̅̊ see God don't do reincarnation neither was he trying to punish Elijah.

It was herald that killed John the baptist not God.

How would you like to join my ministry as a Junior Evangelist with a starting salary of 450,000 a month, a 2012 Cherokee Jeep, A fully furnished and service apartment in GRA, Health, Insurance and leave package, a personal assistant, Driver and 1 mopol with alot of all expense paid international missions.?

Okija_juju:

And your point is?

Drinking & smoking is a part of the 11th commandment. . . . . So when Jesus drank, changed water to wine and gave us the command to drink in remembrance of him, He sinned, manufactured a sinful drink and commaneded future generation to sin in his remembrance. . . . Is that what you are saying sir?!

My point is clear : RUN AWAY FROM EVERY APPEARANCES OF EVIL
Do not drink, do not smoke.

tunde233: Effect of wine - Mr. Noah in Gen 9:21 And he drank of the wine,
and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
The instruction- Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine,
wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Why?- 1 Cor 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous
shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither
fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,
nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous,
nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
For those who think otherwise- Prov 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish...

For those who argued that there is no specific reference to
this in the Bible, There is neither any reference to
‘do not stay on the road when a vehicle is coming’, yet you run,
why? It is because it is part of the ‘11th commandment’.
You have sense to run away from an oncoming vehicle.
You should have sense to run away from everything that
is ungodly whether you are told or not.

These scriptures should not be hard for you to interpret, to drink something doesn't make someone A̶̲̥̅̊‎ drunkard.A̶̲̥̅̊‎ drunkard drinks to stupor, that's different from having A̶̲̥̅̊‎ moderate measure. Read in between the lines and get A̶̲̥̅̊‎ dictionary too. You have assumed what the bible didn't say.

Your 11th commandment is A̶̲̥̅̊‎ prove of your assumption, only ten were given and they were detailed enuf, you assumed the 11th one. Check yourself

Same way God told Adam to not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he ask him to dress it as well as all other tree. Of course You can't dress it without touching it, God only said "don't eat". Adam assumed God said he should not even touch the tree which he told his wife, eve, and the serpent used that assumption to tempt eve cos she touch it and didn't die so she could believe the serpent and ate of it . Nobody was there to tell adam that "not eating" and "not touching" are two different things. Your assumptions can ensnare you

toorich:

These scriptures should not be hard for you to interpret, to drink something doesn't make someone A̶̲̥̅̊‎ drunkard.A̶̲̥̅̊‎ drunkard drinks to stupor, that's different from having A̶̲̥̅̊‎ moderate measure. Read in between the lines and get A̶̲̥̅̊‎ dictionary too. You have assumed what the bible didn't say.

Your 11th commandment is A̶̲̥̅̊‎ prove of your assumption, only ten were given and they were detailed enuf, you assumed the 11th one. Check yourself

Same way God told Adam to not to eat over the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he ask him to dress it as well as all the trees. Adam assumed God said he should not even touch the tree which he told his wife, eve, off course the serpent used that assumption to tempt eve cos she touch it and didn't die so she could believe the serpent and ate of it . Nobody was there to tell adam that "not eating" and "not touching" are two different things. Your assumptions can ensnare you

Make that salary 600,000

simmos: You don't need every law to be stated in the bible before you know what is good or bad, read galatians 5:19-21 and galatians 6:7-9, smoking and drunken is bad because its the work of the flesh and also uncleanness in God eyes

Well said!

tunde233:


My point is clear : RUN AWAY FROM EVERY APPEARANCES OF EVIL
Do not drink, do not smoke.

the above is only meant for people who have no self control.
drinking n smoking is not evil unless you are uneducated.

food kills more than alcohol and tobacco - is food evil?
driving a car kills more than alcohol and tobacco - is driving evil?

it's all about self-control. as long as you don't endanger yourself
or the people near you - drinking n smoking is sinless!

Okija_juju:

How would you like to join my ministry as a Junior Evangelist with a starting salary of 450,000 a month, a 2012 Cherokee Jeep, A fully furnished and service apartment in GRA, Health, Insurance and leave package, a personal assistant, Driver and 1 mopol with alot of all expense paid international missions.?

if i join your ministry, you will lose your congregation

no thanks

Okija_juju:

How would you like to join my ministry as a Junior Evangelist with a starting salary of 450,000 a month, a 2012 Cherokee Jeep, A fully furnished and service apartment in GRA, Health, Insurance and leave package, a personal assistant, Driver and 1 mopol with alot of all expense paid international missions.?

See how you just got a job from Okija because of me

But you are wrong my brother. If you study the scriptures, the prophecy regarding the coming of the Messiah and what JESUS said about John, it is clear that John was Elijah and not the shadow of Elijah. Again, you got it wrong when you said Elijah died. Elijah was taken up and don't try to speculate what happened next.

The proof that John was beheaded because of what he did to the baal prophets can be found at Matthew 26:52. GOD's law apply to everyone including HIS own children.

Okija, your junior evangelist need some more enlightenment

coogar:

the above is only meant for people who have no self control.
drinking n smoking is not evil unless you are uneducated.

food kills more than alcohol and tobacco - is food evil?
driving a car kills more than alcohol and tobacco - is driving evil?

it's all about self-control. as long as you don't endanger yourself
or the people near you - drinking n smoking is sinless!

You, please join my ministry as my lolo and Rev. Mrs Lolo Coogar Okija.

rastamouse:

See how you just got a job from Okija because of me

But you are wrong my brother. If you study the scriptures, the prophecy regarding the coming of the Messiah and what JESUS said about John, it is clear that John was Elijah and not the shadow of Elijah. Again, you got it wrong when you said Elijah died. Elijah was taken up and don't try to speculate what happened next.

The proof that John was beheaded because of what he did to the baal prophets can be found at Matthew 26:52. GOD's law apply to everyone including HIS own children.

Okija, your junior evangelist need some more enlightenment

You are a vulcanizer not a preacher.

How do you say John the baptist is a reincarnation of ELijah when the bible dosent support reincarnation.

How do you take a scripture were Jesus was talking to Peter to mean the cause of John the Baptist (the incarnate of Elijah's) death?!

Elijah was responsible for ordering the Bear to kill some youngins in the bible, how come God didnt kill him by a Bear attack as well?!

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, [size=16pt]and restore all things[/size]. 12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. 13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Matt 17:11-13 (KJV)

Get back to me if there is any part you don't understand in the text above

Okija_juju:

You are a vulcanizer not a preacher.

How do you say John the baptist is a reincarnation of ELijah when the bible dosent support reincarnation.

How do you take a scripture were Jesus was talking to Peter to mean the cause of John the Baptist (the incarnate of Elijah's) death?!

Elijah was responsible for ordering the Bear to kill some youngins in the bible, how come God didnt kill him by a Bear attack as well?!

That was not Elijah It was Elisha

rastamouse:

See how you just got a job from Okija because of me

But you are wrong my brother. If you study the scriptures, the prophecy regarding the coming of the Messiah and what JESUS said about John, it is clear that John was Elijah and not the shadow of Elijah. Again, you got it wrong when you said Elijah died. Elijah was taken up and don't try to speculate what happened next.

The proof that John was beheaded because of what he did to the baal prophets can be found at Matthew 26:52. GOD's law apply to everyone including HIS own children.

Okija, your junior evangelist need some more enlightenment

thank you for reminding me that Elijah was taken to heaven, it will make it easier for you to understand. if the man didn't die and was taken to heaven alive, use your common sense, how did a full grown man enter the womb of Elizabeth to be born as an infant? did you read when the Angel appeared to Zechariah to tell him he would have a son with Elizabeth? you should read it up too. otherwise, if that account wasn't given us, you would have assumed that one day Elijah fell from the sky like terminator and starting calling himself John. same way you will say Jesus Christ is same person as Jonah since he said he would be in the grave for three days and night like Jonah was in the belly of the fish. can we now say Jesus is Jonah? Elijah and John are two different people, you should read that prophecy again and get reference from other scripture that talk about same topic, then you will see it better.

the scripture you gave have no correlation to Elijah or the prophet of baal. why wasn't moses, joshua, David, etc killed by the sword? because, like Elijah they put idolators to death too. .you got it twisted. God didn't kill Elijah in form of John the baptist.

In the Bible,there is a clear distinction between wine and strong drink.Wine goes through different phases.
The Hebrew words for wine is Yayin and Tirosh and are the main words used to describe wine in Bible days.
However there are other words describing wine such as Enab (Hosea 3:1),Shekar (Deut 14:26)and many others.
When the wine is fermented,it becomes an intoxicant and is known as yayin which is generally used to refer to older grape juice.
When the wine is freshly pressed from grapes,not yet fermented,it is tirosh which was required for tithes,drink offerings and first fruit offerings to God in Bible days(Exodus 29:40)(Ex 13:2)(Ex 23:16-19).
Yayin,(fermented wine)makes one drunk and was the wine that someone took in Gen 9:21-24 and committed incest.Yayin was never used as tithes in Bible days.When the wine is still in the cluster,it is known as wine (Isaiah 65:.When pressed out,it is known as new wine or sweet wine before fermentation(Matthew 2:22)(Matthew 9:17)(Luke 5:37-39).
The wine is not the same as the strong drink talked about in Luke 1:15 or Leviticus 10:9 or Deut 29:6 or 1 Samuel 1:15.
The wine before fermentation has medicinal properties (Luke 10:34)and Timothy was advised to use a little quantity in 1Timothy 5:23 to treat an ailment.This wine is capable of turning red and its use when it turns red is strictly forbidden (Proverbs 23:31)
The Bible condemns drinking(which we know as alcoholism today) in Romans 14:21, Proverbs 23:29-35, Proverbs 31:4-7, 1 Tim 3:2-3, Isaiah 5:11&22 and in many other verses in the Bible.No drunkard will inherit the kingdom of God(1 Corinthians 6:9-11)(Gal 5:19-21).
Even in Leviticus 10:9 the consumption of wine(unfermented)is forbidden.
The Bible is clear about it.God the All Knowing God is not an author of confusion.I do not understand what the noise on this thread is about.The Bible is an open document available to all peoples everywhere to read.It is not hidden or restricted as many of the other religions do.Even if any pastor tells you anything from it,you are expected to go to the Bible to crosscheck and confirm or reconfirm.It is unfortunate that many christians carry the Bible about but do not know what it contains yet can engage in useless,baseless arguments.if anyone has a contrary opinion state your opinion intelligently with proper references to enlighten the forum,not baseless sentiments.As for me,CASE CLOSED!

toorich:

thank you for reminding me that Elijah was taken to heaven, it will make it easier for you to understand. if the man didn't die and was taken to heaven alive, use your common sense, how did a full grown man enter the womb of Elizabeth to be born as an infant? did you read when the Angel appeared to Zechariah to tell him he would have a son with Elizabeth? you should read it up too. otherwise, if that account wasn't given us, you would have assumed that one day Elijah fell from the sky like terminator and starting calling himself John. same way you will say Jesus Christ is same person as Jonah since he said he would be in the grave for three days and night like Jonah was in the belly of the fish. can we now say Jesus is Jonah? Elijah and John are two different people, you should read that prophecy again and get reference from other scripture that talk about same topic, then you will see it better.

the scripture you gave have no correlation to Elijah or the prophet of baal. why wasn't moses, joshua, David, etc killed by the sword? because, like Elijah they put idolators to death too. .you got it twisted. God didn't kill Elijah in form of John the baptist.

SO was that John the baptist or Elijah that appeared on the mount during transfiguration!!

Ask him?!

The first things I said to myself when I heard this was,'this man don come again', but one thing I appreciated was he saying " let the authority ban Cigarette if its really harmful. Maybe thats why Igbo, cocain, heroin and the rest are considered illegal, because they cause much more harm.
The Bible warns about excess in everything. Overfeeding = Glutony, Overdrinking = Drunkeness. It warns about taken too much HONEY,"TAKE HONEY IT IS VERY GOOD FOR YOU BUT TOO MUCH OF IT WILL PURGE YOU. Too much salt, sugar will harm you. Fruit is good, too much of it will purge you. MODERATION is the key word.
For Cigar or Alcohol, how do you know moderation, your limit or when to stop. Very difficult and the harm you get, you wouldnt know until its so late, especially when you have the right(bad) company or environment.
The damage rate is slow but irreversible. Maybe thats why these things are not banned like soft drink, which can be abused too and can cause good damage,but cannot cause mental damage like the others.
But the important thing is, cigar or Alcohol intake cannot alway be controlled and when they cannot, they might mar decision(action) which might for ever be regreted. So someone in leadership position should never encourage such. IF HE IS A FATHER, WOULD HE LEAVE HIS SON OR DAUGHTER TO SMOKE AND DRINK? Where is he leading the church people to? I think that is rather selfish. That is why Paul said, if you know you are strong and can take this things, dont mislead others whom you (dont) know are not strong, SHIKENA

Elijah and John the Baptist are not the same.In Luke 1:17 when an angel came to prophesy the birth of John the Baptist,the angel said that he will come in'the spirit and power of Elias'.Elias refers to Elijah.Elijah was a 'strange'prophet operating in the wilderness in his days.Likewise John the Baptist was also a wilderness prophet.
In John 1:19-24,the Pharisees asked John the Baptist to confirm his identity.the Pharisees were the custodians of the law(then known as Judaism).As versed as they were,they did not understand the prophecies relating to the birth of Jesus and John the Baptist.John the Baptist told them that he was neither Jesus the Messiah nor Elijah.He told them that he was the ''voice of one crying in the wilderness...''(John 1:19-24). The Baptist stated clearly that he was not Elijah.

In Matthew 17:10-13, Jesus Christ made two statements.In verse 11, he said that Elias will come and restore all things. in verse 12,he said that Elias has come already but was not known. His comment in verse 11 refers to the future coming of Elijah recorded in Revelations Chapter 11. Jesus comment in verse 12 refers to John the Baptist who had already come in the spirit and power of Elias and had been killed by Herod.

Revelations 11 talks about 2 witnesses who will come prior to the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.the two witnesses are Enoch and Elijah.they were human beings who walked on earth and did not die natural deaths as they were translated bodily into Heaven.they have a mission to fulfil on earth in the endtime before the 2nd coming of Christ during which period they will go through the natural death all men go.Malachi 4:5-6 identifies one of the two witnesses to be Elijah and he will be coming to ''turn the hearts of the fathers to the children''.It is clear from Scripture that Elijah is yet to come as predicted.

The issue of whether Elijah has come or not or whether Elijah and John the Baptist are the same is an unnecessary controversy.
The two have made heaven already.why are we flexing muscles about their identities or whereabouts?we should focus on how to reach that same Heaven first,then when we get there,the two of them will tell us who they are.these debates are originated from Hell to make one lose focus.There are too many of such unnecessary debates in Christendom .the Bible is always clear about its messages but the Devil inspires people to twist and distort them to derail the faith of many.CASE CLOSED!

rastamouse: And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, [size=16pt]and restore all things[/size]. 12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. 13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Matt 17:11-13 (KJV)

Get back to me if there is any part you don't understand in the text above

hey dude, if you read from the beginning of that chapter, talks about the transfiguration where Elijah and Moses appeared with Jesus. after peter, james and john saw that, they asked because it was said that Elias will come before the messiah because to they were expecting to see "the real" elijah that was taken up to heaven come back to the earth. after Jesus' response they understood that the prophecy was figurative and not literal because in the 13th verse it says "then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the baptist". so my friend, it didn't say that John the baptist was literally Elijah but a figure of Elijah

ogbori: The first things I said to myself when I heard this was,'this man don come again', but one thing I appreciated was he saying " let the authority ban Cigarette if its really harmful. Maybe thats why Igbo, cocain, heroin and the rest are considered illegal, because they cause much more harm.
The Bible warns about excess in everything. Overfeeding = Glutony, Overdrinking = Drunkeness. It warns about taken too much HONEY,"TAKE HONEY IT IS VERY GOOD FOR YOU BUT TOO MUCH OF IT WILL PURGE YOU. Too much salt, sugar will harm you. Fruit is good, too much of it will purge you. MODERATION is the key word.
For Cigar or Alcohol, how do you know moderation, your limit or when to stop. Very difficult and the harm you get, you wouldnt know until its so late, especially when you have the right(bad) company or environment.
The damage rate is slow but irreversible. Maybe thats why these things are not banned like soft drink, which can be abused too and can cause good damage,but cannot cause mental damage like the others.
But the important thing is, cigar or Alcohol intake cannot alway be controlled and when they cannot, they might mar decision(action) which might for ever be regreted. So someone in leadership position should never encourage such. IF HE IS A FATHER, WOULD HE LEAVE HIS SON OR DAUGHTER TO SMOKE AND DRINK? Where is he leading the church people to? I think that is rather selfish. That is why Paul said, if you know you are strong and can take this things, dont mislead others whom you (dont) know are not strong, SHIKENA

SO!!

Just because a few people a weak/light-headed lets now LIE and say drinking and smoking is a sin when the bible hasnt said so?! He didnt encourage it. . . Get the facts right. . . He only said it isnt a sin in itself, but over doing it is. . Drinking is not a sin, but drunkeness is. .

Not father would want their kids smoking and drinking, but that still dosent make it a sin. . . Do not add to the bible. . Revelations!!

The man spkoe without bias or fear. . I respect that.

toorich:

hey dude, if you read from the beginning of that chapter, talks about the transfiguration where Elijah and Moses appeared with Jesus. after peter, james and john saw that, they asked because it was said that Elias will come before the messiah because to they were expecting to see "the real" elijah that was taken up to heaven come back to the earth. after Jesus' response they understood that the prophecy was figurative and not literal because in the 13th verse it says "then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the baptist". so my friend, it didn't say that John the baptist was literally Elijah but a figure of Elijah

Do you have a Bible? How can you argue that John was Elijah? This is the OT prophecy concerning his coming:

Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Mal 4:5-6 (KJV)

Okija_juju:


SO was that John the baptist or Elijah that appeared on the mount during transfiguration!!

Ask him?!

Why did the transfiguration happen when John had died? Why not on the wilderness where HE fasted for 40 days and nights?

When the wine is fermented,it becomes an intoxicant and is known as yayin which is generally used to refer to older grape juice.

What you refer to as wine is a fruit drink which has undergone fermentation or a drink which has some level of alcohol. I dont think there is anything like non-alcoholic wine. The process of making wine involves pressing fruits,(in those days using clean feet)and collecting them in drums.
Squeez orange and leave it in a glass for less than an hour, your drink had already fermented. Becoming alcoholic, the process of making wine. There is no refrigerator that stops the fermentation then.
The new sweet wine you mentioned are stronger, sweeter and might cause cause more damage because of the sweetness, since you wont know when you get drunk. Fresh undiluted palmwine is sweeter and better but powerful. A cup can get you drunk.
You dont put a new wine in a an old skin(a bottle made from animal skin), else the new wine will burst the old wine skin. Use a new skin (strong) for a new wine.
This is just telling you the new sweeter wine is stronger, still is fermenting and can be more harmful.

Come on, u don't need any one to tell u what sin is or not, u have a conscience now! If u know what u're doing is bad then stop it. Don't place it on Pastor Chris cause, if there's any punishment for it, is u that will pay for d punishment.

toorich:

thank you for reminding me that Elijah was taken to heaven, it will make it easier for you to understand. if the man didn't die and was taken to heaven alive, use your common sense, how did a full grown man enter the womb of Elizabeth to be born as an infant? did you read when the Angel appeared to Zechariah to tell him he would have a son with Elizabeth? you should read it up too. otherwise, if that account wasn't given us, you would have assumed that one day Elijah fell from the sky like terminator and starting calling himself John. same way you will say Jesus Christ is same person as Jonah since he said he would be in the grave for three days and night like Jonah was in the belly of the fish. can we now say Jesus is Jonah? Elijah and John are two different people, you should read that prophecy again and get reference from other scripture that talk about same topic, then you will see it better.

the scripture you gave have no correlation to Elijah or the prophet of baal. why wasn't moses, joshua, David, etc killed by the sword? because, like Elijah they put idolators to death too. .you got it twisted. God didn't kill Elijah in form of John the baptist.

My brother you are getting ridiculous. Are you telling me that the being is made up of only the body? I can tell you for a fact that GOD only know you by your soul that is why HE speaks to your soul. The fact that Elijah didn't die doesn't mean Elizabeth had to carry the old man in her belly. The spirit is what is important.

Before Abraham, JESUS was...does that mean Mary gave birth to a child thousands of years old? Please show some maturity in the discussion...I will be glad to also learn from you