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Before we begin, I think we should pray.

In the name of the father, the son and the holy ghost.
Father, I ask you to guide this debate so that it will be meaningful to people and they recognise you for who you really are.
Please place your anointing hands on your servants. Give us wisdom and intelligence and keep derailers from this thread.
May we not stumble in our quest for truth. Be our light in this dark hour.
We praise and magnify your holy name and ask that you answer our prayers in jeeesus name!
Amen.

Logic Mind: Before we begin, I think we should pray.

In the name of the father, the son and the holy ghost.
Father, I ask you to guide this debate so that it will be meaningful to people and they recognise you for who you really are.
Please place your anointing hands on your servants. Give us wisdom and intelligence and keep derailers from this thread.
May we not stumble in our quest for truth. Be our light in this dark hour.
We praise and magnify your holy name and ask that you answer our prayers in jeeesus name!
Amen.

Did this prayer really come from you ?

rastamouse:

Did this prayer really come from you ?

yes.
i told you already. i believe.

My first question is:

Is there any logical way at all that you can prove that god exists?

It is fair that I lay out the rules to make this as clean as possible. No insults or insinuation is allowed. I will not quote from the Bible since doing so will not be fair (you claim that you don't believe in the Bible). We should avoid doing loop debate (I hope you know what that means).

We are doing the freestyle and that means your arguments should not be based on your knowledge only. You can quote other people's theory.

That is about my ground rules. Bring your rules

Logic Mind: My first question is:

Is there any logical way at all that you can prove that god exists?

Yes there are several logical ways to prove the existence of GOD.

rastamouse: It is fair that I lay out the rules to make this as clean as possible. No insults or insinuation is allowed. I will not quote from the Bible since doing so will not be fair (you claim that you don't believe in the Bible). We should avoid doing loop debate (I hope you know what that means).

We are doing the freestyle and that means your arguments should not be based on your knowledge only. You can quote other people's theory.

That is about my ground rules. Bring your rules

The bible and the koran are my guiding lights. I believe them. Infact they are the basis for most of my arguments and I like using them to whip theists' assses. However if you're afraid of getting your asss whipped with your holy book, I understand but that is no longer freestyle. You need to decide what you want. freestyle or biased rules.
I don't know what loop debate means.

rastamouse:

Yes there are several logical ways to prove the existence of GOD.

please enlighten me.

Logic Mind:

The bible and the koran are my guiding lights. I believe them. Infact they are the basis for most of my arguments and I like using them to whip theists' assses. However if you're afraid of getting your asss whipped with your holy book, I understand but that is no longer freestyle. You need to decide what you want. freestyle or biased rules.
I don't know what loop debate means.

Loop debate is intentionally keeping a person explaining a point over and over. A classic example is asking a person why JESUS CHRIST died. If the person happens to answer the question, you then ask a question which will make the person give an answer which is similar to the initial question. Such kind of debate only wastes time and achieve nothing. We are going for the KO (ie completely obliterate another person with your argument).

Logic Mind:

please enlighten me.

Every real thing has a cause ---- formula 1
Life is real ---- formula 2

From the two formula above, Life has a cause.

How does this prove anything about GOD?

Going back to the formulas, whatever is called the cause is GOD.

Rastamouse, you're going down.

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rastamouse:
Every real thing has a cause ---- formula 1
Life is real ---- formula 2

From the two formula above, Life has a cause.

How does this prove anything about GOD?

Going back to the formulas, whatever is called the cause is GOD.

so this god can be anything?

Logic Mind:

so this god can be anything?

Based on my initial argument...yes

logicboy: Rastamouse, you're going down.

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I guess I can come up with my first question. My question is: What is your biggest proof that there is NO GOD?

rastamouse: I guess I can come up with my first question. My question is: What is your biggest proof that there is NO GOD?

Loop argument is what you came to do on my thread.
There can be no proof that there is no god/alien/invisible pink unicorn/great leprechaun/vizard/arrancar etc

ea7: Loop argument is what you came to do on my thread.
There can be no proof that there is no god/alien/invisible pink unicorn/great leprechaun/vizard/arrancar etc

You fired me from your thread so I am doing the same to you

rastamouse:
Every real thing has a cause ---- formula 1
Life is real ---- formula 2

From the two formula above, Life has a cause.

How does this prove anything about GOD?

Going back to the formulas, whatever is called the cause is GOD.

Be careful with this because it will lead to a conclusion that God is not real, since God is uncaused, and your first premise asserts that everything real has a cause.

Please read a post from this chap and see if this argument can be refined -

https://www.nairaland.com/315294/atheists-empirical-reasoning-existence-god/5#4448852

Its a post by a poster called "Prizm"

Deep Sight:

Be careful with this because it will lead to a conclusion that God is not real, since God is uncaused, and your first premise asserts that everything real has a cause.

Please read a post from this chap and see if this argument can be refined -

https://www.nairaland.com/315294/atheists-empirical-reasoning-existence-god/5#4448852

Its a post by a poster called "Prizm"

It is a trap and he will fall for it

^ ^ ^ It is a trap alright, but I fear you might be the one to fall into it.

Please do read the post in the link I gave you. Important before you proceed.

Deep Sight:
^ ^ ^ It is a trap alright, but I fear you might be the one to fall into it.

Please do read the post in the link I gave you. Important before you proceed.

Keep a close watch here....

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArgumentumAdNauseam read the link.

ea7: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArgumentumAdNauseam read the link.

rastamouse: I guess I can come up with my first question. My question is: What is your biggest proof that there is NO GOD?

Sorry, I cannot prove that there is no God.
I cannot prove a negative. It is impossible. Try to see if you can prove that there is no anything.

Logic Mind:

Sorry, I cannot prove that there is no God.
I cannot prove a negative. It is impossible. Try to see if you can prove that there is no anything.

If I get you right, you are telling me that you have no proof in what you believe. Please state in simple terms if that is the fact or not?

rastamouse:

If I get you right, you are telling me that if you have no proof in what you believe. Please state in simple terms if that is the fact or not?

I am telling you that it is impossible to prove a negative.
I can prove to you that obama exists but i cannot prove to you that obama does not exist. do you understand?
this is the worst question of theists: "prove there's no god"
when do either know it's impossible but try to be malicious or they don't know it's impossible so shows how stuppid they really are.
which one are you? malicious or sttupid?

Logic Mind:

I am telling you that it is impossible to prove a negative.
I can prove to you that obama exists but i cannot prove to you that obama does not exist. do you understand?
this is the worst question of theists: "prove there's no god"
when do either know it's impossible but try to be malicious or they don't know it's impossible so shows how stuppid they really are.
which one are you? malicious or sttupid?

You just broke one of the rules by casting insinuations. I will rather forgive you. The basic believe of every atheist remains "If it cannot be proven, it does not exits". However, here is an atheist who believe that there is no GOD but cannot prove it. Lets make this debate as clean as possible.

Just admit to my statement and lets move on...

rastamouse:

You just broke one of the rules by casting insinuations. I will rather forgive you. The basic believe of every atheist remains "If it cannot be proven, it does not exits". However, here is an atheist who believe that there is no GOD but cannot prove it. Lets make this debate as clean as possible.

Just admit to my statement and lets move on...

please answer this: can you rastamouse prove a negative?