Ibime:


Is Chelsea midfield up to much? How would City dominating Barca midfield be any different to Allegri of last season?

Pep remains a fraud till he wins something as the underdog. He's not done that yet.

Did Allegri dominate Barcelonas midfield last season

When will Mourinho become a fraud after losing at home to Sevilla? Winning trophies by fluke with Porto 14yrs ago doesnt stop you from being a fraud.
DiMatteo won as an underdog no one will compare him to Ancelotti,
Benitez won as an underdog no one will compare him to Ferguson,
Rehhagel won as an underdog no one will compare him to Jogi Low.
Its winning when the pressure is on you not when there is no pressure

A fraud is 16points ahead on the EPL, Will you just admit EPL is then a fraud league

diggz:



Fvck you sinizia!! May Mou cause you to write another epistle come weekend

At least you didn't command your "thanda" to strike me. So I'm safe for now.

You suppose dey mourn with me over our separate losses not wishing me bad, we need to sit down and discuss the way out for our respective clubs. Remember you'll need me to rein in my United brothers from turning here into a war torn zone seeing that you guys are closer to Yorupa League than us. Be nice to me or face the wrath of God of War if Yorupa League comes calling for your club.

We sold potentials like Debrune, Sallah and Lukaku.

How we managed to keep Courtois still surprises me till today

raumdeuter:


Did Allegri dominate Barcelonas midfield last season

When will Mourinho become a fraud after losing at home to Sevilla? Winning trophies by fluke with Porto 14yrs ago doesnt stop you from being a fraud.
DiMatteo won as an underdog no one will compare him to Ancelotti,
Benitez won as an underdog no one will compare him to Ferguson,
Rehhagel won as an underdog no one will compare him to Jogi Low.
Its winning when the pressure is on you not when there is no pressure

A fraud is 16points ahead on the EPL, Will you just admit EPL is then a fraud league

Logic is lost on you.

All the managers above have won something as underdog. They have all proven themselves in adversity. When will Pep win as underdog?

Pep vs fergie in 2009 ucl finals...abeg who waz the underdog and overdog ? Radarada full some pple mouth sha

femiti:
Pep vs fergie in 2009 ucl finals...abeg who waz the underdog and overdog ? Radarada full some pple mouth sha

The only time we have seen Pep as underdog is in Bayern and he got disgraced. If he wins UCL with City this season, he can clear his name.

Fergie has been proving himself against better teams since winning Cup Winners Cup with Aberdeen. There is no manager Dayo listed that has not shown he can beat a better team to win something. . . except Pep.

Ibime:


Logic is lost on you.

All the managers above have won something as underdog. They have all proven themselves in adversity. When will Pep win as underdog?

When and what did Ancelotti win anything as an underdog vs DiMatteo, When and what did Jogi Loew win as an underdog vs Rehhagel?

Ibime:


The only time we have seen Pep as underdog is in Bayern and he got disgraced. If he wins UCL with City this season, he can clear his name.

Fergie has been proving himself against better teams since winning Cup Winners Cup with Aberdeen. There is no manager Dayo listed that has not shown he can beat a better team to win something. . . except Pep.

Give us what Low and Ancelotti won as an underdog. So we can compare them with DiMatteo and Rehaggel

Ibime:


The only time we have seen Pep as underdog is in Bayern and he got disgraced. If he wins UCL with City this season, he can clear his name.

Fergie has been proving himself against better teams since winning Cup Winners Cup with Aberdeen. There is no manager Dayo listed that has not shown he can beat a better team to win something. . . except Pep.

So fergie was the underdog in dat 2009 finals ? Weldone sir

Ibime:


The only time we have seen Pep as underdog is in Bayern and he got disgraced. If he wins UCL with City this season, he can clear his name.

Fergie has been proving himself against better teams since winning Cup Winners Cup with Aberdeen. There is no manager Dayo listed that has not shown he can beat a better team to win something. . . except Pep.

What was Mourinho at Madrid Chelsea or Man Utd? Underdog, overdog or snoopdog?

raumdeuter:


When and what did Ancelotti win anything as an underdog vs DiMatteo, When and what did Jogi Loew win as an underdog vs Rehhagel?

What is the status of Milan team in Serie A while Ancelotti was winning UCL. Ancelotti can take the same players that finish 4th in Serie A and win UCL with them repeatedly. Ancelotti can take a group of Real players who have not seen UCL final for 10 years, and 2nd best in Spain, yet tactically set them up to win UCL

Pep is yet to beat a team with better players than his in his 10 year management history.

femiti:
So fergie was the underdog in dat 2009 finals ? Weldone sir

Yes he was. Please don't quote bookies. Barca set of players were superior to Utd.

Ibime:


What is the status of Milan team in Serie A while Ancelotti was winning UCL. Ancelotti can take the same players that finish 4th in Serie A and win UCL with them repeatedly. Ancelotti can take a group of Real players who have not seen UCL final for 10 years, and 2nd best in Spain, yet tactically set them up to win UCL

Pep is yet to beat a team with better players than his in his 10 year management history.

Because he simply makes his team better than the better players from the other side... Now you have completely forgotten he makes players better

Ibime:


Yes he was. Please don't quote bookies. Barca set of players were superior to Utd.

same way united players were superior to sevilla on Tuesday still lost disgracefully.


by the way why didn't frank rijkaard whose players were also superior to man United win them in the semi finals?

popizaino:

by the way why didn't frank rijkaard whose players were also superior to man United win them in the semi finals?

Go and ask Frank Rijkaard who relegated a team in Holland and failed in Saudi Arabia. Rijkaard is a bigger fraud.

When Fergie parked double-decker in 2008 to fluke past Barca, that was a case of Underdog beating overdog. Those United players have never been those Barca players mates. Chelsea used to play both teams in the 2000s and we known they aren't mates, even under the fraud Rijkaard.

Ibime:


What is the status of Milan team in Serie A while Ancelotti was winning UCL. Ancelotti can take the same players that finish 4th in Serie A and win UCL with them repeatedly. Ancelotti can take a group of Real players who have not seen UCL final for 10 years, and 2nd best in Spain, yet tactically set them up to win UCL

Pep is yet to beat a team with better players than his in his 10 year management history.

hahahaha.

keep shooting yourself .
Ask yourself what was the status of barca team in laliga while pep won the ucl with them.pep guardiola also took the same players tgat finished 3rd in laliga to win ucl with them repeatedly.

you and I know pep guardiola won't ever sweat winning everything with the madrid squad ancelotti won the ucl with.

raumdeuter:


So picking a yellow card and blocking shot is now signs of performance? Hazard was the most useless outfield player yesterday

During the game many Chelsea fans here were already swearing for him for disappearing

His uselessness is bayern best player's best.


Thank you.

Ibime:


What is the status of Milan team in Serie A while Ancelotti was winning UCL. Ancelotti can take the same players that finish 4th in Serie A and win UCL with them repeatedly. Ancelotti can take a group of Real players who have not seen UCL final for 10 years, and 2nd best in Spain, yet tactically set them up to win UCL

Pep is yet to beat a team with better players than his in his 10 year management history.

Ancelotti was deliberately tanking in the Serie A to concentrate on the CL

This was the CL lineup that won Ancelotti the CL in 2003
Dida, COstacurta, Nesta, Maldini, Seedorf Kaladze, Gattuso Pirlo, Shevchenko Inzaghi Rui Costa with players like Rivaldo on the bench

In this lineup, we can list 7 players who wuld be considered the best in their position at their prime This is the team our story telling Ibime is calling an underdog. Maldini, Nesta, Rivaldo, Shevchenko, Seedorf, pirlo, Gattuso Are now underdogs when playing a team of Camoranesi, Tudor, Montero and Tacchinardi

Now lets go to 2007
Dida, Oddo, Jankulovski, Maldini, Nesta, Pirlo, Gattuso Ambrosini Seedorf Kaka Inzaghi This team beat a Liverpool of Bellamy, Pennant, Crouch Finnan, Carragher, Zenden Kuyt

According to Ibime, Kaka balon dor, Nesta Pirlo and the Italians who just won a world cup, plus Seedorf are the underdogs to Pennant, Bellany Crouch, kuyt. How else do you know someone is lying?

2014 Madrid

Ancelotti won the CL and this was his starting 11 Casillas, Carvajal, Marcelo, Ramos, Pepe, Khedira, Modric, DiMaria, Ronaldo, Bale Benzema and they beat Atletico Madrid in the final

So Madrid was the underdog with the top 2 player of his generation, Bale world most expensive player, Ramos best defender of his generation, Marcelo best left back of his generation, Casillas best goalkeeper of his generation, Modric one of the top 7 midfielders of his time etc when they play Atletico with no Diego Costa playing Tiago, Felipe Luis, Juanfran, Gabi and Raul Garcia

In each of these years name 5 teams better on paper than the teams Ancelotti used to win the CL

afrodoc2, chic2pimp, a40 nateevs and those who watched CL in the early 2000s should come and judge

Instead of making his legs and head do the talking, spineless mofo.

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Ibime:


Go and ask Frank Rijkaard who relegated a team in Holland and failed in Saudi Arabia. Rijkaard is a bigger fraud.

When Fergie parked double-decker in 2008 to fluke past Barca, that was a case of Underdog beating overdog. Those United players have never been those Barca players mates. Chelsea used to play both teams in the 2000s and we known they aren't mates, even under the fraud Rijkaard.

must you clutch at straw just to prove a baseless point?

just accept you don't have any reason to call pep a fraud and stop all this face saving excuses.

popizaino:
must you clutch at straw just to prove a baseless point?

just accept you don't have any reason to call pep a fraud and stop all this face saving excuses.

Madrid who won the La Liga with record points in 2012 is the underdog in 2014, but Barcelona that was trophyless for 2 seasons in a row before 2009 was not an underdog

raumdeuter:


Ancelotti was deliberately tanking in the Serie A to concentrate on the CL

This was the CL lineup that won Ancelotti the CL in 2003
Dida, COstacurta, Nesta, Maldini, Seedorf Kaladze, Gattuso Pirlo, Shevchenko Inzaghi Rui Costa with players like Rivaldo on the bench

In this lineup, we can list 7 players who wuld be considered the best in their position at their prime This is the team our story telling Ibime is calling an underdog. Maldini, Nesta, Rivaldo, Shevchenko, Seedorf, pirlo, Gattuso Are now underdogs when playing a team of Camoranesi, Tudor, Montero and Tacchinardi

Now lets go to 2007
Dida, Oddo, Jankulovski, Maldini, Nesta, Pirlo, Gattuso Ambrosini Seedorf Kaka Inzaghi This team beat a Liverpool of Bellamy, Pennant, Crouch Finnan, Carragher, Zenden Kuyt

According to Ibime, Kaka balon dor, Nesta Pirlo and the Italians who just won a world cup, plus Seedorf are the underdogs to Pennant, Bellany Crouch, kuyt. How else do you know someone is lying?

2014 Madrid

Ancelotti won the CL and this was his starting 11 Casillas, Carvajal, Marcelo, Ramos, Pepe, Khedira, Modric, DiMaria, Ronaldo, Bale Benzema and they beat Atletico Madrid in the final

So Madrid was the underdog with the top 2 player of his generation, Bale world most expensive player, Ramos best defender of his generation, Marcelo best left back of his generation, Casillas best goalkeeper of his generation, Modric one of the top 7 midfielders of his time etc when they play Atletico with no Diego Costa playing Tiago, Felipe Luis, Juanfran, Gabi and Raul Garcia

In each of these years name 5 teams better on paper than the teams Ancelotti used to win the CL

afrodoc2, chic2pimp, a40 nateevs and those who watched CL in the early 2000s should come and judge

Hahaha.

leave him we all know he is only trying to save face with his comments .

From a40 to Raumdeuter, with love:

A40:

Your Pep Fraudiola took us from defending Champions to disgrace. Which we haven't fully recovered from.

Juup has clearly shown why pep is a fraud. Bayern is now back in business, without spending malawi's annual budget on new players.

raumdeuter:


Madrid who won the La Liga with record points in 2012 is the underdog in 2014, but Barcelona that was trophyless for 2 seasons in a row before 2009 was not an underdog

you know been an underdog and a favourite have interchangeable meaning to Ibime.

popizaino:

you and I know pep guardiola won't ever sweat winning everything with the madrid squad ancelotti won the ucl with.

No, he won't sweat with Madrid squad but he will piss and shyt himself to 5 goal hammerings using Jupp Heynckes Bayern squad that used to win UCL and even flog Barca 7-0 while doing so.

airmark:
From a40 to Raumdeuter, with love:



Juup has clearly shown why pep is a fraud. Bayern is now back in business, without spending malawi's annual budget on new players.

How?

y not that analogy on ancelotti rather?

Ibime:


No, he won't sweat with Madrid squad but he will piss and shyt himself to 5 goal hammerings using Jupp Heynckes Bayern squad that used to win UCL and even flog Barca 7-0 while doing so.

You havent explained how Ancelotti is an underdog in any of the winning seasons

In any of those seasons can you give us 5 teams better than the Ancelotti teams that won

airmark:
Instead of making his legs and head do the talking, spineless mofo.

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Uselessness personified.... Mondela oshi....

popizaino:
hahahaha.

keep shooting yourself .
Ask yourself what was the status of barca team in laliga while pep won the ucl with them.pep guardiola also took the same players tgat finished 3rd in laliga to win ucl with them repeatedly.

you and I know pep guardiola won't ever sweat winning everything with the madrid squad ancelotti won the ucl with.

The status of Barca team in Laliga in 2008 should be blamed on fraud Rijkaard. Anyone who watches football then knows those are the best players in the world. Rijkaard just uselessed them. I don't need awards to know that Michael Carrick and Scholes can never be overdog over Xavi, Toure and Iniesta, Rooney can never be overdog over Eto, Nani can never be over Henry or Villa, and Ronaldo can never be overdog over Messi.

Even in 2008, when Utd beat Rijkaards team, they knew who were the better team and were celebrating like they achieved the impossible after parking bus for 180 minutes. First leg possession stats was 73% to Barca, 2nd leg was 63% to Barca. Only a fool who did not live in that time will come and tell us Pep took over a team that were not far more talented than Utd, and everyone else for that matter.

Ibime:


No, he won't sweat with Madrid squad but he will piss and shyt himself to 5 goal hammerings using Jupp Heynckes Bayern squad that used to win UCL and even flog Barca 7-0 while doing so.

beside lahm coming in to defend pep when real madrid defeated bayern Munich it's takes only a stupid and clueless coach like mourinho not to outclass bayern Munich with a real madrid squad.
meanwhile not discrediting the work of jupp heckynes pls ask yourself the honourable question will jupp heckynes had it so easy against barca at the level they were a year before they met?

Ibime:


The status of Barca team in Laliga in 2008 should be blamed on fraud Rijkaard. Anyone who watches football then knows those are the best players in the world. Rijkaard just uselessed them. I don't need awards to know that Michael Carrick and Scholes can never be overdog over Xavi, Toure and Iniesta, Rooney can never be overdog over Eto, Nani can never be over Henry or Villa, and Ronaldo can never be overdog over Messi.

Even in 2008, when Utd beat Rijkaards team, they knew who were the better team and were celebrating like they achieved the impossible after parking bus for 180 minutes. First leg possession stats was 73% to Barca, 2nd leg was 63% to Barca. Only a fool who did not live in that time will come and tell us Pep took over a team that were not far more talented than Utd, and everyone else for that matter.

And the status of Madrid not winning the CL in 2012 should not be blamed on Mourinho?

Bayern beat Madrid under Mourinho, Ancelotti whitewashed them, Dortmund beat Madrid under Mourinho, Ancelotti beat them

That shows Madrid was a topdog way before they won the CL in 2014

There is no logical way you can separate the situation of Barca pre 2009 from the situation of Madrid pre 2014

Carlo took over a team that was far more talented than Bayern and Dortmund he only did what was expected of Madrid.

Now Carlo swapped to Bayern played Madrid coached by Zidane and he lost home and away last season

That is to show that Madrid under Ancelotti were no underdog so find another lie

Ibime:


The status of Barca team in Laliga in 2008 should be blamed on fraud Rijkaard. Anyone who watches football then knows those are the best players in the world. Rijkaard just uselessed them. I don't need awards to know that Michael Carrick and Scholes can never be overdog over Xavi, Toure and Iniesta, Rooney can never be overdog over Eto, Nani can never be over Henry or Villa, and Ronaldo can never be overdog over Messi.

Even in 2008, when Utd beat Rijkaards team, they knew who were the better team and were celebrating like they achieved the impossible after parking bus for 180 minutes. First leg possession stats was 73% to Barca, 2nd leg was 63% to Barca. Only a fool who did not live in that time will come and tell us Pep took over a team that were not far more talented than Utd, and everyone else for that matter.

well done Mr wise that lived then but saw villa in barca squad in 2008.

pls hausa digger on this thread should help us on fifa rating in 2008 before the European Championship.