Kay 17:

This is not a fair assessment from you, you are not aware of the effort and bravery that it took logicboy to reach his present position. Apparently you guys don't share the same views on divinity, but that not cause to put the other down.

I'm sure your positions weren't accidental, so there is a need to respect ourselves.

2good:

Normally I wouldn't have addressed logicboy the way i did but he said "Agnostic are Atheist with no balls" because of the little dissenting view we have on the supernatural. I'm generally ok with logicboy's view on divinity because his reasoning allows logical analysis of things but he should open his mind a little bit and be less aggressive in passing his ideas across. I am strongly anti religion but at thesame I accept that religion can also act as a Placebo to some people and give them a momentary relief.
Also you'll noticed I answered him with some humour because I am not angry with his post in anyway and I laughed when I read his response

logicboy:


Look, we both agree that religion is messed up at times. The difference between you and me is that you want to eat your cake and have it. You want to be nice to these religious guys as well. No. The moment you give these guys false hope, they cling to their religion on the little hope left. Bash the religion out of them totally, I say!

alexleo:

you are just living in a fool's paradise. See you and bashing religion out of people. Simple thing- go into your closet and sincerely ask God to manifest himself to you as a prove that he exists. You are too lazy to prove God. Keep ranting like a drowning man.

2good:

Normally I wouldn't have addressed logicboy the way i did but he said "Agnostic are Atheist with no balls" because of the little dissenting view we have on the supernatural. I'm generally ok with logicboy's view on divinity because his reasoning allows logical analysis of things but he should open his mind a little bit and be less aggressive in passing his ideas across. I am strongly anti religion but at thesame I accept that religion can also act as a Placebo to some people and give them a momentary relief.
Also you'll noticed I answered him with some humour because I am not angry with his post in anyway and I laughed when I read his response

logicboy:


Yes, I am drowning in a sea of knowledge. On the other hand, you are living in a heavenly delusion.


Boom!

alexleo:


yeah. Exactly, you are drowning in a sea of false knowledge that will spell your doom if u dont get out of it. May God deliver you.

Athesists can be summarised as a bunch of lazy christians who rather than prove God in their lives as individuals relied on being spoonfed by their pastors..

unfortunately they fell into the hands of pastors who are not seasoned who end up feeding them with contaminated word which when the effect of its poison takes full charge of them leads to the death of the belief of God in their lives.

For those of us who have proved God in our lives and are still proving him, we remain unshaken by the grace of God.

For those of us who have proved God in our lives we have no fear of death and no fear of hell.

A true christian is never afraid of hell because the bible said- there is therefore no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

As comfortable and blessed as i am in this life by the grace of God i have no such fear in me at all.

What am after is to have pure relationship with God at all times.

Any Christian who lives with the fear of death and hell in his heart knows that he needs to check his spiritual stand and he is also standing at the edge of the doom pit of atheism.

Such christians are the one easily converted to atheism.

For us, we enjoy the peace of God which passes all understanding. We enjoy a clear conscience void of offence before God and man. We enjoy the hope of heaven and we enjoy the blessings of God which makes rich and which has no sorrow added to it.

Let the atheists prove God in their lives on individual basis and they will understand this thing.

But the truth is that they run away from proving God one on one in their closet. Who is deceiving who? The best remains to prove God for yourself. It is a height of foolishness for anybody to wait for somebody to prove God for him.
Wise atheists proves God by themselves while the lazy and foolish ones wants to keep waiting for someone to prove God for them (same laziness which i mentioned earlier that drew them into atheism).

May God help you people.

What realy also attracts many to atheism Is wanting to do all sorts of things devoid of Gods commands to guide them..

They wanna do what they like and when they like to do it...not wanting to be accountable to any higher authority....

Lawlessness is 1 crazy reason why many are tending toward atheism or have become atheist....

If pastors wear blings and u knw is wrong leave d church and keep searching for d truth till u find it...

If some worship images and u knw its wrong then quit associating with such congregation and keep searching for d truth...

If many who claim to be religious leaders today take part in wars and genocides then leave dat church and keep searching for d true 1...

1 must serve God in spirit and in truth....

Keep searching and u'll find...

harakiri: @alexleo



Yes!!! We are so lazy that we have more thorough knowledge of Christianity and the bible than the average Christian (In my case, even more than your so called Pastor). That being said, can you give guidelines on how YOU proved "God" in your life? You know we are too lazy to do that.



At this point, it's crystal clear that you don't even understand what atheism really is. You're talking about "Pastors". Do you think Christianity is the only religion on earth? There are moslems even on this forum that are Atheists today. How about countries where religion is non-existent? You really need to expand your mind my friend.




Wonderful. How did you do it? Instead of making wild claims, why don't you show proof or at least give insights. If you cannot do this, then according to the tenets of the biblical god...you are doomed to eternal damnation in hades where you will be tormented with burning sulfur and flames and you will burn forever and ever BECAUSE YOU LIED! No be me talk am. E dey your bible.




...and yet, you will go to church praying against your percieved enemies and against misfortune. Once a little problem comes your way, you start attending endless night vigils and damning the "devil" from dusk till dawn. Why can't you be like Stephen would gladly accepted death via stoning for his faith? Why can't you be like Paul and Silas who happily lost their freedoms and comforts in their struggle for heaven? Why can't you accept a life of poverty and hardship as they did? You doubt that? Show me ONE SINGLE VERSE in the NT where zest for material wealth is promoted. The only reason you are a Christian today is because you were brainwashed with religion from childhood. The only reason you go to church is mainly because of your insatiable greed for blessings and "miracles". Selfish hypocrites!!!



Yeah right...it's people like that $hit in your pants when a gun is pointed at your head and you are here acting all macho. Abeg do sidon make we hia word. E-Macho man. Na today?



Of course you aren't but you tell lies everyday and you have told lies on this thread. You will rot in hell for all eternity my friend. No be me talk am ooo! Na your biblical god.



Define the terms of this "pure relationship". You sheeple just come here vomiting all the nonsense you have been spoon fed with.




You've been talking about fear a lot. Last time i checked, it's usually those who are scared $hitless that keep reassuring themselves that they aren't scared. It's all basic human psychology my E-Macho friend.




Really? What if i told you that i can ask either you or your pastor 3 simple questions from the bible that will leave you speechless? Do you even know what Christianity is? You are really embarrassing yourself and i really hope you have the cojones to back up all your tough talk.




This sounds like a downloaded update from Chris Oyakhilome or Ashimolowo. You are indeed a brainwashed sheepson.




Please, use either Google or a dictionary to find out the true meaning of the word "ATHEIST" before you come here embarrassing yourself.




Do us a favor and educate yourself before coming back here. I don't even know why i am wasting mental energy on a senseless thread.



AMEN!!! Are you happy now? Run along and grab a good book to read.

alexleo:


unfortunately i dont have time for your response. The little i could go through i saw only foolisness in them. Those who care can read but not me because i have nothing to learn from such a crap u wasted your effort to post. There are atheists here that i read their response, definitely not your dirty type. Whatever your response is i dont care, all i know is go and prove God yourself and stop being lazy and waiting for someone to prove God for you simple.

logicboy:


You are a real ignoramus. There is no physical proof of God. For you to call atheists lazy for not proving God shows a lack of knowledge

alexleo:

You said you dont believe somebody exists then you are now told what to do to prove wether he exists and you are shying away from it and still claim he doesnt exist. is that not foolishness? Must you see God physically to agree that he exists? Do you see the air yet you believe there is air because you feel it. Do you see your conscience yet you believe because you feel the presence. Its not everything that exists that are seen. Some are felt. Go and do what i told you and come and tell us your findings. If you cant do it that means you are LAZY and foolish in your claim.

unfortunately i dont have time for your response.

The little i could go through i saw only foolisness in them.

Those who care can read but not me because i have nothing to learn from such a crap u wasted your effort to post.

There are atheists here that i read their response, definitely not your dirty type.

Whatever your response is i dont care, all i know is go and prove God yourself and stop being lazy and waiting for someone to prove God for you simple.

alexleo:
unfortunately i dont have time for your response. The little i could go through i saw only[b] foolisness[/b] in them. Those who care can read but not me because i have nothing to learn from such a crap u wasted your effort to post. There are atheists here that i read their response, definitely not your dirty type..

alexleo:

You said you dont believe somebody exists then you are now told what to do to prove wether he exists and you are shying away from it and still claim he doesnt exist. is that not foolishness? Must you see God physically to agree that he exists? Do you see the air yet you believe there is air because you feel it. Do you see your conscience yet you believe because you feel the presence. Its not everything that exists that are seen. Some are felt. Go and do what i told you and come and tell us your findings. If you cant do it that means you are LAZY and foolish in your claim.

unfortunately i dont have time for your response. The little i could go through i saw only foolisness [/b]in them. Those who care can read but not me because[b] i have nothing to learn from such a crap u wasted your effort to post. There are atheists here that i read their response, definitely not your dirty type

cyrexx:

Matt5:22 but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

alexloe, you are definitely going to your biblical hell and you will burn forever, not my word, but according to your bible

harakiri has intelligently tried in vain to upload some sense into your brainwashed mind but your delusional religious mind is TOTALLY CLOSED to all voice of reason.

atheists and agnostics are open to challenge their own beliefs and modify them in the face of new evidences that proves it wrong but you believe anything your bible says even if the bible says the earth is 6000 years old, and you will NEVER entertain any evidence and facts that contradict your beliefs based on your bible.

what is delusion, Encyclopedia of Mental Disorders states:

Delusions are irrational beliefs, held with a high level of conviction, that are highly resistant to change even when the delusional person is exposed to forms of proof that contradict the belief.

alexleo:



sorry i dont have time to read posts from harakiri. He displays madness and when people display madness i dont read their post. I tried reading his first one but when i saw the madness i stopped. The second one he posted now i just scrolled past it so i dont know the content and dont care to know because it contains nothing but display of madness.
I read your post. I read that of logic boy. I read manmustwac. I read that of Jenwitemi and i reply you all. Yeah even though i dont agree with you people yet i find your posts readable. As for my belief in God it cannot be shaken by God's grace and if you people are not ready to prove God then its foolishness to keep claiming he does not exist.

logicboy:


Pigs enjoy swimming in mud and their own filth, just like you enjoy wallowing in your ignorance. You cant prove that there is God and then you turn and say atheist are not lazy for proving your own God? Why build a religion around an unprovable God?

You have some nerve calling Harakiri mad




who told you He is an unproveable God? So because you ve not proved him he becomes unprovable? I have proved him and still proving him likewise others. This is not a matter of pastor brain washing as you people ignorantly talk. If i did not prove God in my life i would have been a worse atheists than you people. The way you see me insist that God exists is the way i would have joined you people to insist that he does not exist if i did not personally prove him. So go prove him and come out with your findings. Some atheists here did it. Do yours or stop claiming what you have not researched to find out its truthfulness.
Pls forget about that your harakiri. I said he displayed madness and i dont join issues with a mad post. Does your post agree with mine? Hasnt it been argument upon argument between me and you atheists here. Yet i take time to read your posts. That you people doesnt agree with me does not make your post unreadable but when someone displays madness in his post then i dont read it. Go and check manmustwac post here. That post is the greatest for me from the atheists. I read it with so much passion several times and over. But of course it doesnt mean that he agreed with me or i agreed with him.

cyrexx:

what you dont realise is that the greatest cause of atheism is the christians like you, there are so judgemental, biased, ignorantly bigoted and deluded. people like you are found in all branches christianity ranging from catholicism to protestants to pentecostalism. they are the ones turning people away from their religion of brimstone and fire.....
plus several glaring contradictions in their bible.....

musKeeto: And btw, trying to prove something you don't believe in is called MADNESS.

jayriginal:
It beats me how one can be asked to prove that which he/she does not believe.

sorry i dont have time to read posts from harakiri.

He displays madness and when people display madness i dont read their post.

I tried reading his first one but when i saw the madness i stopped. The second one he posted now i just scrolled past it so i dont know the content and dont care to know because it contains nothing but display of madness.

I read your post. I read that of logic boy. I read manmustwac. I read that of Jenwitemi and i reply you all. Yeah even though i dont agree with you people yet i find your posts readable.

As for my belief in God it cannot be shaken by God's grace and if you people are not ready to prove God then its foolishness to keep claiming he does not exist.

musKeeto: indeed REASON is the reason people fall into move up to atheism... albeit maybe a wrong a decisive, not-sitting-on-the-fence move

The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge; the ears of the wise seek it out.

logicboy:

Life evolved from single celled organisms