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| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Avicenna: 9:29am On May 21, 2012 |
davidylan:Are you even a scientist like you claim? Do you even know the meaning of dogma? If tomorrow, the primordial soup theory is disproved by new evidence(by same scientists!), we will abandon it for what the evidence supports. That is not dogmatic. Compare it to religions. And he was throwing insults when I refuse to paste a link. Do your own research. Whatever I paste is not likely to convince someone reading this except he/she discovered it himself/herself. It is a way of pulling down the cognitive biases they naturally have before clicking the link. I don't have problem with those that paste links, we are different. This is what religions is all about. Claiming some esoteric specialised knowledge about God. Have you ever wondered why it is wherever our knowledge of things stopped momentarily is where God is? Few centuries ago, it was believed God was in heaven in the sky, telescopes disproved that. Then now, he is the cause of the big ba.ng. Once science disproves that, he will be whatever science is yet to discover. Your final line shows you are not remotely a scientist. Just wait, science WILL CREATE LIFE. As usual, I expect you to skip this and go right into the insults. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by buzugee(m): 9:48am On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid:Cornelius and the rest gentiles are now united to the jews under the law. so even though Jesus only died for the jews ? technically he only died for the gentiles because the jews already had the laws and his dying was so God can continue working through the jews to include the gentiles in the law and unite both jew and gentile. so it is a weird scenario in that even though he died for the jews, he really died for the gentiles. the lost sheep of israel are today, the ten tribes that went to the americas after the assyrian captivity, whom were called the olmecs. these olmecs went on to produce the aztecs mayans native indians mexicans etc. anyone in south and central america with dark skin. then the remaining tribes journeyed into west africa and south africa to form the lemba, ashanti, igbo, yoruba, ewe, ga, fanti, and other tribes along the west coast of africa well technically he was killed by the romans because they were in authority and rulership but sanctioned by the wicked pharisees and saducees who were israelites not many of them listened to Jesus which is why they got cursed ( DEUTERONOMY 28 VS 15 -68 ) and lost custody and rulership of the earth to the gentiles ( romans 11 vs 11 ) ( lamentations 2 vs 1 ) the sameritan woman was an israelite you are right, the lord now deals with the whole world both jew and gentiles ( THANKS TO jESUS SACRIFICE ON BEHALF OF THE GENTILES VIA THE JEWS ) yes through the Saviors blood the new convenant was instigated the israel that is now bombing pakistani is the fake israel. they are written about in the bible ( revelation 2 vs 9 ) ( revelaation 3 vs 9 ) PHEW LOTS OF QUESTIONS  |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 12:13pm On May 21, 2012 |
buzugee: Cornelius and the rest gentiles are now united to the jews under the law. so even though Jesus only died for the jews ? technically he only died for the gentiles because the jews already had the laws and his dying was so God can continue working through the jews to include the gentiles in the law and unite both jew and gentile. so it is a weird scenario in that even though he died for the jews, he really died for the gentiles. Hehehehe... Question go finish u today...lol.. But rili these guys are tryin to say Jesus was a bigot which I'm defending.. I go defend my master na.. I get choice?? |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by logicboy: 12:25pm On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid: And you wonder why I talk about christianity and slavery? You are a slave to a slave religion |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 12:38pm On May 21, 2012 |
musKeeto: But u urself know d kinda man Jesus was when he was on earth... Jesus showed love in d greatest way any man would... He felt pity for people and helped them.. Raised dead people.... U can't use that instance alone to classify Jesus as a bigot.... Jesus saw through divides and reached his listeners.... Sometimes Jesus spoke to 5000 persons,fed them... Would u tell me there were non -isrealites amongst that crowd??... And mind u when he talked to crowds he cured there illnesses as well... Jesus is not what u paint him as.... U haven't still said anything about the samaritan woman and Jesus... I wanna hear ur comment!!!! |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 12:46pm On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid: Your master.....some people were born to be slaves. Physically or mentally. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 12:53pm On May 21, 2012 |
Martian: What do u mean? Aint u a slave to some1  |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 12:57pm On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid: ijawkid:I didn't classify Jesus as a 'bigot'. I simply said that statement was derogatory. There's no way you can go round that. Like I said earlier, if God was so 'accessible', there won't be any atheists... you do not give people freewill and expect them not to use them. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 1:03pm On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid: Huh. No. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 1:09pm On May 21, 2012 |
musKeeto: Well u can stick to what u think Jesus meant... But u've got a lot to learn from Jesus than attacking what he said to a cannanite woman.... I told logic boy that if d world ever applied Jesus words we would never hear of wars and genocides... U wanna see God?? Just tell me u wanna see God one on one lol |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 1:11pm On May 21, 2012 |
Martian: U might not wanna agree my brother but you are ....lol I believe u work somewhere?? If u do ur oga is ur master and you are d slave... I dey lie ? |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 1:14pm On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid: Also if the world applied Mandela's words, Gandhi's words, Martin Luther King's also, we won't hear of wars and genocides, right? GOD has done a pretty good job hiding himself from those he created. What kind of God throws people in such a 'world' and expects them to indulge him in a game of hide and seek.. pls... I'm not ready to go crazy.. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by alexleo(m): 1:14pm On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid: shut up! From your reply above you sounded like a mumu who is just putting up a defence for someone he is not really convinced about but doing it out of compulsion You are just enjoying an argument. If you are not convinced of what you have been posting about Jesus then stop now. If also thats the case i hereby refer u to go and have a personal encounter with God just like i ve also refered the atheists here to do. I hope you are not among the people who are suffering from pastor-told-me syndrome because if you are, then you are a few steps to being an atheist if care is not taken. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 1:21pm On May 21, 2012 |
alexleo: Oboy wetin happen na?? I was crackin some joke with buzugee.... Why are u getin so heated up?? I'm an advocate of Jesus ... What in my statement did u hear me sound like a ""my pastor told me"" group.. Please read thru my comments well b4 sounding like. Hitler!!!... What's wrong with you?? I am here explaining why Jesus isn't a bigot and how he died for every1 ur here accusing me of what I don't know... U better behave urself.... U called me a mumu....why Why d abuse |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 1:26pm On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid: Wow. No, if you're employed, you get paid for your services and no one has any rights over you but if you are a slave, you belong to somebody. A slave is a piece of property with no rights. I hope you're a teenager. I really do; because there is no way you are an adult with this kind of reasoning. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 1:33pm On May 21, 2012 |
Martian: Oboy no be wetin industrial law teach us?? Master/slave relationship.... Didn't u learn that in school?? And when I mean slave u might think I'm talking about when d isrealites were slaves to d egyptians... I know u understand what I mean.. U've got superiors don't u! ?.... U obey them don't u?? No matter what u think or do we are not all equal.... U know that... |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 1:34pm On May 21, 2012 |
Martian: |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 1:38pm On May 21, 2012 |
@Ijawkid: Having superiors is not the same as being a slave.... are you your dad's slave? |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by alexleo(m): 1:43pm On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid: sorry if u feel abused. Pls dont crack joke with these lazy atheists. They go about making noise but simple thing for them to do- prove God on your own, they are too lazy to do it. If they are not ready to have a personal encounter with God as one of them here, Banom, did then avoid their foolish argument. They are just deceiving themselves my brother. God bless you. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 1:47pm On May 21, 2012 |
Why not prove the Great Leprechaun? See as u dey vex, u b God? lmao... |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 1:51pm On May 21, 2012 |
musKeeto: @Ijawkid: Having superiors is not the same as being a slave.... are you your dad's slave? To an extent!!!..lol but u guys actually understand what I mean.. Na for industrial law I learn am oooo... |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 1:52pm On May 21, 2012 |
Btw, u haven't replied this... musKeeto: |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 1:58pm On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid: Can you post the source? Master/slave is not the same as employer/employee. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 2:16pm On May 21, 2012 |
musKeeto: Btw, u haven't replied this... Mandela and d rest are just ordinary men.. Jesus is d greatest teacher and man that ever walked d surface of d earth.. U can't compare them... No comparison..... U want us to start bringing out quotes of Jesus and that of mandela and let's make comparison?? I'm ready... How can u compare d effect of Jesus words to that of mandela's,martin luther,and ghandi...... Those were mere men |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by ijawkid(m): 2:18pm On May 21, 2012 |
Martian: U want me to post my textbook and note up here? :-) |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 2:54pm On May 21, 2012 |
ijawkid: Name and author will do just fine. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 3:37pm On May 21, 2012 |
The driving (off the record  ) reason for atheism is that Religious folks especially Christians (who must attain blissful ignorance failing, profit from this venture) and Muslim (who must satisfy their innate urge for fatal violence or abject hypocrisy) have deemed it fit to denigrate GOD (before the whole world) by turning his Eternal perfection into a misfit of infantile emotional immaturity and chronic masochism. An Intelligent Designer reduced to a bumbling magician with old parlor tricks that even a dumb kid in secondary school can see through. Imagine the pressure such realization can drive one into -- You must pity Atheists for the trauma they are exposed to on a daily basis |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by logicboy: 3:41pm On May 21, 2012 |
lagerwhenindoubt: The driving (off the record Are you forgetting there are people that were raised as atheists? There is no trauma, just a realisation. The same way you realise that there is no santa claus; brief shock and disbelief then carrying on with your life |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 3:47pm On May 21, 2012 |
Avicenna: Quite daft really. You can sit here anonymously challenging my work but you cant remove the pali and industry recognition i've gotten already so lets move away from the territory of idiocy. So on what basis do you believe in the primordial soup theory if you're simply waiting for better evidence so you can abandon it?  Avicenna: Huh? Telescopes disprove that God lives in the sky? Idiocy. I didnt know telescopes were now equipped with the ability to see spirits. God as the cause of the big bang? We dont even believe the big bang in the first place so obviously you're talking out of your pie hole. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by logicboy: 4:00pm On May 21, 2012 |
davidylan: Wait, you reject big bang and evolution, yet you laim to be a scientist. This means that you are not into biology or physics. Are you a psychologist, into chemisty or some pseudoscientist? Even theists accept big bang! |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Nobody: 4:07pm On May 21, 2012 |
logicboy: On what empirical evidence dumbo? There are a large number of scientists who debunk the pseudo-science that is the big bang theory. |
| Re: Reason Behind The Fall Into Atheism by Avicenna: 4:18pm On May 21, 2012 |
logicboy:He may be a scientist....in the social science. |
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