Ejiné: Why do you Nairalanders always have this innate urge to annex other people's ethnic groups just because they're not as 'populous' as you are?

I hope, for your sake, this isn't how you all reason in reality. Because if it is, then that is one seriously dangerous way of life

PapaBrowne: How on earth can we see ourselves as Yorubas?? Where do you live?? Why are Yorubas so love struck with the Binis?? Its a goods thing though! We love you back.

First, Edos have a well documented history and culture that dates back to the 9th century. Well documented I said.
Secondly, Edo is a forbear of various ethnic groups both in the country and outside. These groups have their history and ancestory tied to the EDO heritage. From Uhrobos to Itsekiris to Isokos in the south all the way to Lagos in the west. Interestingly, the whole of Lagos traditional rulership was set up by the Binis. The word Eko is a Bini word. Ever wonder why it is called the Oba of Lagos?
While I wouldn't want to argue history here I would just tell you to judge between these two accounts

Yorubas say Oduduwa fell from heaven.
Edos say Oduduwa was the son of of an Ogiso whose name is Izoduwa(bini word) who was banished from the kingdom. The Benin account is very detailed and laced with real and practical stories and names. The Yoruba account is mere Floklore. Judge for yourself which is right.

The question should be whether the Yorubas see themselves as Edos and not the other way round. And I believe the answer is yes, which is why Yorubas have this love affinity with everything Bini.

PhysicsQED: @ alj harem, if we all agree that the Edo monarchy is from Yoruba, rather than Egypt, Sudan, or Mecca, how does that relate to the threadstarters topic? Any Yoruba ancestry would be from nearly 1000 or more years back and would not be particularly relevant to the ethnic makeup of the group.

MacLovington: Alj Harem & Co,

I think PhysicsQED and others thoroughly exhausted this topic sometime ago.

Even though I am a yoruboid Edo, one cannot claim that Edos are Yoruba people.

Considering their proximity to each other geographically, no doubt there was migration and mixing between both over millenia.

Even if we assume that Izoduwa/Ododuwa & Oranmiyan were pure Yoruba(which is most unlikely), the Benin royal family descending from a Yoruba dynasty does not make all Edos Yoruba.
The Swedish Royal Family is French but all Swedes are not French. The Windsors/Saxe Coburg Gotha are Germans but all Welsh/Irish/Scots(the English being mostly a mix of Angles/Jutes-Danes/German saxons/Normans) are not Germans. Examples abound.

MacLovington: Alj Harem & Co,

I think PhysicsQED and others thoroughly exhausted this topic sometime ago.

Even though I am a yoruboid Edo, one cannot claim that Edos are Yoruba people.

Considering their proximity to each other geographically, no doubt there was migration and mixing between both over millenia.

Even if we assume that Izoduwa/Ododuwa & Oranmiyan were pure Yoruba(which is most unlikely), the Benin royal family descending from a Yoruba dynasty does not make all Edos Yoruba.
The Swedish Royal Family is French but all Swedes are not French. The Windsors/Saxe Coburg Gotha are Germans but all Welsh/Irish/Scots(the English being mostly a mix of Angles/Jutes-Danes/German saxons/Normans) are not Germans. Examples abound.

akigbemaru:


It is true and well said. We cannot ignore the fact that Yoruba and Edo share the same lineage.

afam4eva: This is one of those threads that make me wanna puke. I'm sure the OP is lmao right now after instigating a scenario for 1diots to showcase their latest collection of 1diocy. It's funny how the same people who castigate Igbos for trying to annex Ikwerre and Ika who are more than related to Igbos in almost every ramification see the need for Edos to see themselves as Yorubas even though they share nothing in common other than a shred of history.

afam4eva: This is one of those threads that make me wanna puke. I'm sure the OP is lmao right now after instigating a scenario for 1diots to showcase their latest collection of 1diocy. It's funny how the same people who castigate Igbos for trying to annex Ikwerre and Ika who are more than related to Igbos in almost every ramification see the need for Edos to see themselves as Yorubas even though they share nothing in common other than a shred of history.

ayobase:

The question is not daft and not insulting.

What connection has Yoruba with
Nupe, unlike Yoruba and Edo?

Will you tell your child d same if
he/she asks d same question.

U wanna tell me u r not seeing the
similarities, if not d connection!

ayobase:

The question is not daft and not insulting.

What connection has Yoruba with
Nupe, unlike Yoruba and Edo?

Will you tell your child d same if
he/she asks d same question.

U wanna tell me u r not seeing the
similarities, if not d connection!

PhysicsQED: @ alj harem, 'Erediauwa' is quite distinct from 'Oduduwa'. The Itsekiri version is Erejuwa by the way.

alj harem:

Dude go rest jare, How can Ika be Igbo with there langauge, NAME, way of life etc is not Igbo

Even their history got nothing to do with Igbo

Stop this rubbish afam

engineerd: .

What do you call a "shred of history"? Ignorance is bliss!

engineerd: .

What do you call a "shred of history"? Ignorance is bliss!

PhysicsQED: Alj harem, I never said that I necessarily believed/agreed exactly with Papabrowne's perspective or that of the author of the article he cited, but what I do know is that questions of monarchichal origin are quite separate from the question of the thread so perhaps I should have responded to both him and you.

afam4eva:
You see what I'm talking about. Yoiu think Ika has no links with Igbo but in your dirty mind Edo is Yoruba? O ma se. SMH

ceaser: So you don't know that Yorubas and Nupes have some history together? Dude what were you taught in history? Hello, where is Sango "olukoso's" mother from and where was he given his dragon-like and Thor-like powers? Plus, there're fragments of Yoruba phrases that make up Nupe language. ;DSo you don't know that Yorubas and Nupes have some history together? Dude what were you taught in history? Hello, where is Sango "olukoso's" mother from and where was he given his dragon-like and Thor-like powers? Plus, there're fragments of Yoruba phrases that make up Nupe language.

engineerd: Edos' are the beloved of the Yorubas, i grew up learning to see the Edos as people we share our cultural heritage with. You cannot separate Yorubas and Edos because we came from the same people. So yes Edo is Yoruba and Yoruba is Edo! You dig?

ak47mann: i know that EDO state is well influence by yoruba culture they believe more in yoruba than other mini tribes that live in Edo state like ishan etc i have seen were EDO man will look down on ishan man,edo people some of them swings b/w Yoruba and bini even politically Yoruba party ACN was massively voted by edo people

PapaBrowne: How on earth can we see ourselves as Yorubas?? Where do you live?? Why are Yorubas so love struck with the Binis?? Its a goods thing though! We love you back.

First, Edos have a well documented history and culture that dates back to the 9th century. Well documented I said.
Secondly, Edo is a forbear of various ethnic groups both in the country and outside. These groups have their history and ancestory tied to the EDO heritage. From Uhrobos to Itsekiris to Isokos in the south all the way to Lagos in the west. Interestingly, the whole of Lagos traditional rulership was set up by the Binis. The word Eko is a Bini word. Ever wonder why it is called the Oba of Lagos?
While I wouldn't want to argue history here I would just tell you to judge between these two accounts

Yorubas say Oduduwa fell from heaven.
Edos say Oduduwa was the son of of an Ogiso whose name is Izoduwa(bini word) who was banished from the kingdom. The Benin account is very detailed and laced with real and practical stories and names. The Yoruba account is mere Floklore. Judge for yourself which is right.

yorubas did not say oduduwa fell from heaven, it was obatala dat fell down from heaven. are u sure u r a bini man? cos u sound too igboish
The question should be whether the Yorubas see themselves as Edos and not the other way round. And I believe the answer is yes, which is why Yorubas have this love affinity with everything Bini.

corinna:

i dig your style joor. At least we are one Nigeria. But truth is not many people is as liberal to his neighbour as you are. I have met many nice yourubas as an Edo person who see me as family and are nice but I have also met one to many who are the most tribalistic person on earth. I have nigerian graduates of yoruba origin(on four different occaisions both in lagos and europe, i.e pple. in their 30s-40s) who ask me if Edo is part of Ibo or Urhobo or even Hausa. Although i don´t know their intentions for such questions but it gives me an impression of pure DULLNESS (pls. no insults meant) but how can a nigerian graduate ask such a silly question. No graduate from south south or east will be so naive.