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Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PhenomenonVFX(m): 9:44pm On Dec 23, 2012
velociraptor: @ phenomenonvfx: yeah, i like ur characters n models. dont mind us and d machines, it was just wot d story was based on. we will meet soon cos i like ur spirit. is blender u main 3d app? wot re u strong points in 3d?
@velociraptor
Blender is my main 3D app, yes. But I dont think that has anything to do with anything. The artist should define the tools not the other way round. That is why I laugh when I see people download the latest software outthere when they havent even learnt how to use the ones they have. Most big studios reprogram software to suit their needs or create plug-ins for them. Like GUIs and fancy interfaces are for inexperienced computer programmers and users, so are latest fancy magic buttons in 3d apps; they dont help in really learning stuff. 3d is like programming. Once u can work with one software, u can work with another easily. You only have to learn the ways to do it in the new software. On my strong points in 3d, I have to say apart from a knack and ability to learn very quick, I can model quite well and animate and I also know the technical sides of 3d in general like how things work down beneath; a knowledge of the technical part of computer graphics not just the art.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by velociraptor: 7:38am On Dec 24, 2012
@phenomenonvfx: very good. wud like to put in for one of our future projs. the reason y am askin which app is ur main app is to no ow to fit u
into a team. am sure u no wot a production pipeline is. i use autodesk maya n a frnd of mine used 3ds max n we re developin ways to make
our flow seamlessly.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PhenomenonVFX(m): 9:59am On Dec 24, 2012
velociraptor: @phenomenonvfx: very good. wud like to put in for one of our future projs. the reason y am askin which app is ur main app is to no ow to fit u
into a team. am sure u no wot a production pipeline is. i use autodesk maya n a frnd of mine used 3ds max n we re developin ways to make
our flow seamlessly.
@velociraptor
I am flattered u intend to add me to one of ur future projects. I have always been looking forward to working with other 3d enthusiasts. Just let me know when u are ready for the project. We can discuss more about it whenever u are ready.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by velociraptor: 10:40am On Dec 24, 2012
@phenomenon: am happy to no dat u re glad about this. i can assure u dat u wont regret it. re u based in lagos ?
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PhenomenonVFX(m): 11:01am On Dec 24, 2012
No I am not. I am based in Ibadan.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by chronique(m): 9:19pm On Dec 24, 2012
PhenomenonVFX:
@chronique
Firstly, I think that is the most hideous animated character reel I have ever seen. Secondly- haba guy!- u had to go steal someelse's animation school logo to market ur 400,000 naira animation training course. That caveman logo u used belongs to The Animation School in SouthAfrica. Let's just hope ur students are far more silly than I am. And I read somewhere where u said u spent 4 million naira learning computer graphics and animation, I have got to say u are either not entirely truthful or a very slow learner. No disrespect. I cant even boast of spending up to 50k learning animation (and I am still learning) but my characters are far better than that on ur reel. I think it is time we graphics artists and animators started taking ourselves seriously and stop all this plagiarism; using other peoples model and other peoples animated scenes and passing them off as our own so that people can call us "badt guys". Character animation is one of the hardest things to do in CG. It takes a lot of time learning, hardwork, reading and observing to get it right. It is science. It is arts. It is not for every Tom, Dick and freaking Harry. But when u pay the price of learning and doing ur homework, u always reap the reward of fun and probably fiscal pay-offs too if that is the ultimate goal for u.

We didnt steal anything from nobody and we never said we owned dat image. My admin guy had to download dat image to use when he couldnt access d images we sent him then. It was suppose to be a temporary arrangement.

Secondly,before u start running ur mouth like a leaking basket about the price we put for d course,maybe you should go and find out from Protea hotel(the proposed venue at dat time),how much they'd charge a day for you to use their conference room(incuding the breakfast n lunch dat dey would have served),for the entire duration of d course. Sometimes,I'm surprised @ how the average Nigerian thinks. If you've ever organised or attended any corporate seminar held in a decent/exquisite enviroment,you'd understand our pricing aint out of place,coupled with what would be taught and materials(not free tutorials) dat would be given out. Maybe u need to leave ibadan and come to Lagos and see things done properly. Our target market wasnt every Tom,D-ick n Harry. There are animation schools in lagos who charge millions and teach nothing. Stop talking from ur cave in Ibadan & putting down other pple's hustle. Afterall,we didnt force it down pple's throat.

If you didn't spend up to 50k to learn,clap for urself. Thanks for being the modern day Einstein.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PhenomenonVFX(m): 10:55pm On Dec 24, 2012
chronique:

We didnt steal anything from nobody and we never said we owned dat image. My admin guy had to download dat image to use when he couldnt access d images we sent him then. It was suppose to be a temporary arrangement.

Secondly,before u start running ur mouth like a leaking basket about the price we put for d course,maybe you should go and find out from Protea hotel(the proposed venue at dat time),how much they'd charge a day for you to use their conference room(incuding the breakfast n lunch dat dey would have served),for the entire duration of d course. Sometimes,I'm surprised @ how the average Nigerian thinks. If you've ever organised or attended any corporate seminar held in a decent/exquisite enviroment,you'd understand our pricing aint out of place,coupled with what would be taught and materials(not free tutorials) dat would be given out. Maybe u need to leave ibadan and come to Lagos and see things done properly. Our target market wasnt every Tom,D-ick n Harry. There are animation schools in lagos who charge millions and teach nothing. Stop talking from ur cave in Ibadan & putting down other pple's hustle. Afterall,we didnt force it down pple's throat.

If you didn't spend up to 50k to learn,clap for urself. Thanks for being the modern day Einstein.
@chronique
Wow! LOL. I am glad I elicited such an emotional response from u. I hope that made u feel better. It still doesnt change anything I said. And dude, I am enjoying my cave quite alright. My point is try a little more honesty next time. Met too many guys like u outthere making bogus claims and frustrating fledgling enthusiasts like me. And I cant abide them. (when I saw ur post on this thread and then ur site, I was actually happy that I had finally found a very good animation school in Nigeria. What with all that bit about 10 years experience and creating standard stuff like Shrek and what-not. But that logo and reel sank my heart). Use ur own work. Design ur own stuff. When u do, u wont have guys like me heckling u. I will praise u even; I promise. I look forward to that day when u do. Till then I have nothing else to say to u.
Wish u luck in ur hustle. I just hope ur abilities would match ur claims someday. That way knowledge-driven people who eventually come to learn animation from u would really have learnt something and not just turn out to be victims of another hustling Nigerian. I will like to believe I have given u something to think about even though u might hate me for it. Merry xmas.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by aphek: 1:07am On Dec 25, 2012
Hahahahahahaha. I have never had such laughs in a long time. Thanks guys.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by ladanski(m): 6:39am On Dec 25, 2012
To every man his own. I honestly am disappointed at the use of someone's image for marketing. The only place i'd gladly pay 2 learn would b damaroyworkshop but i've decided 2 go d free way-youtube. Im currently using blender and i have found tons of tutorials. Maybe i'll also start an animation school...at half your rates...with an original image on the advert.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PhenomenonVFX(m): 6:53am On Dec 25, 2012
aphek: Hahahahahahaha. I have never had such laughs in a long time. Thanks guys.

We are glad to be ur personal Santa Claus. Merry Christmas. cheesy
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PhenomenonVFX(m): 7:11am On Dec 25, 2012
ladanski: To every man his own. I honestly am disappointed at the use of someone's image for marketing. The only place i'd gladly pay 2 learn would b damaroyworkshop but i've decided 2 go d free way-youtube. Im currently using blender and i have found tons of tutorials. Maybe i'll also start an animation school...at half your rates...with an original image on the advert.

Best of luck. Hope to see u making great animated characters in the not too distant future. God knows we need more animators --real animators-- in Nigeria. I hope we all become that soon. Because that is the only way we can reach international standards in our entertainment industry........and beat it if possible.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by darksider: 11:20am On Dec 25, 2012
@phenonmenon: i just dey enjoy u dey go joooo. na so i dey blast all the mumu people wey no sabi but want to make animation a profession. u can imagine 10yrs of xperience and no standard reel to show for it. i can promise u 1 tin am 110% bent on givin 3d animation a nu face in this country. not only me am sure of two other guys n we want more people who will tell dem selves d truth n b ready to push d bar high. men, i wish u re in lagos oooo.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by chronique(m): 1:25pm On Dec 25, 2012
dark-sider:
@phenonmenon: i just dey enjoy u dey go joooo. na so i dey blast all the mumu people wey no sabi but want to make animation a profession. u can imagine 10yrs of xperience and no standard reel to show for it. i can promise u 1 tin am 110% bent on givin 3d animation a nu face in this country. not only me am sure of two other guys n we want more people who will tell dem selves d truth n b ready to push d bar high. men, i wish u re in lagos oooo.

Well,just to clear the air. We initially put up a reel of jobs(mostly motion graphics) done for coys like mtn,nigerian brewries,skye bank,gulder,etc. However,we had to take d reel off as we were not given those jobs directly. They were out-sourced to some of our team members individually by d agencies who got them. We did that to avoid any legal issue cos the entity "chronx media" had no legal/direct dealings with them(agencies).
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by darksider: 2:01pm On Dec 25, 2012
@chronique: kk, it is a gud thing that u re tryin to do, but we felt u werent givin it the right energy. i ve bin followin ur post 4 a while, i also checked out ur site too and to b
sincere i cant believe u or ur team has got 10yrs experience especially with the project i evolution somtin that u said ur team was currently wrkin on couple of months ago. i ve a question for u. re u a 3d artiste or are u a guy who wants to hlp create a platform where 3d artiste can relate and probably unite and at the end of the day ur dream of doing a 3d movie wud b realized.
because i sense dat to b one of ur objectives which is ok by me just try to put a good structure in place and i as a person wud b willin to wrk on any project of urs. am just a 3d artiste and i want to set things right. in less than 2weeks 2 short 3d animation movie wud b released check out maverickstudiosng.com for details.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by ladanski(m): 2:07pm On Dec 25, 2012
Thnx. Hopefully we will one day collaborate on somethn quite soon. Just polishing up my character animation b4 releasing a demoreel. Dont want it to lack in any aspect. My guys, more greese 2 ur elbows.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by chronique(m): 4:29pm On Dec 25, 2012
dark-sider:
@chronique: kk, it is a gud thing that u re tryin to do, but we felt u werent givin it the right energy. i ve bin followin ur post 4 a while, i also checked out ur site too and to b
sincere i cant believe u or ur team has got 10yrs experience especially with the project i evolution somtin that u said ur team was currently wrkin on couple of months ago. i ve a question for u. re u a 3d artiste or are u a guy who wants to hlp create a platform where 3d artiste can relate and probably unite and at the end of the day ur dream of doing a 3d movie wud b realized.
because i sense dat to b one of ur objectives which is ok by me just try to put a good structure in place and i as a person wud b willin to wrk on any project of urs. am just a 3d artiste and i want to set things right. in less than 2weeks 2 short 3d animation movie wud b released check out maverickstudiosng.com for details.

Well,if you'd love to be part of our team,dat would be nice. As regards the project,we had a temporary setback which affected us but we're still focused on our dream. Yes,I'm someone who really has a passion for 3d and definitely wanna give a platform to as many 3d artistes out there.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PhenomenonVFX(m): 7:42pm On Dec 25, 2012
ladanski: Thnx. Hopefully we will one day collaborate on somethn quite soon. Just polishing up my character animation b4 releasing a demoreel. Dont want it to lack in any aspect. My guys, more greese 2 ur elbows.
@ladanski
Thanks but no thanks. I dont need any grease on my elbows. I want the arms of hot chicks interlocked there permanently. grin
LOL. No mind me jare. Christmas don make me high.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by ladanski(m): 8:13am On Dec 26, 2012
Lol, merry christmas nd a happy new year. Ps, hot chicks dont go out with nerds...unless them get cash
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by darksider: 2:14pm On Dec 30, 2012
we need a convention for 3d n vfx guys. where issues affecting the growth of the 3d industry can discussed.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PeterReezer: 8:38pm On Dec 30, 2012
most definitely
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PhenomenonVFX(m): 8:02pm On Jan 03, 2013
Shot of an animation test I am doing at the moment. The animation is looking good by the way. Will post d link to d animation here when I am through. Happy New Year guys.

Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by darksider: 3:50pm On Jan 04, 2013
phenomenonvfx, i dey feel u. men dis ibadan wey u dey na ojoro ooo. grin grin grin
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PhenomenonVFX(m): 4:36pm On Jan 05, 2013
dark-sider:
phenomenonvfx, i dey feel u. men dis ibadan wey u dey na ojoro ooo. grin grin grin

see ojoroman dey call another ojoroman "ojoroman". What of u wey dey lag? At least u get enough guys there to work and share ideas with. And easy access to resources too. Me just dey here dey look up to heaven. cheesy
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by darksider: 8:09pm On Jan 05, 2013
@phenomenon: grin grin grin grin guys for lag no sabi anytin n ego dey worry dem untop d little wey dem sabi. tho ve got a team, i just like ur style
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by Amhatu(m): 10:55pm On Jan 05, 2013
@ PhenomenonVFX, nice work. Blender3d will take you all they way.


I use blender3d for my full work-flow, gimp and adobe products for editing.
You may want to check out the newest blender3d (it has implemented Open Shader Language(OSL)


Below is something I showed last year on this forum to show some aspects of Blender's capabilities.







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scincerly,
Amhatu
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PhenomenonVFX(m): 11:37pm On Jan 05, 2013
@Amhatu
Hi. Nice meeting u. It's always pleasant to make the acquaitance of another Nigerian Blender user. Hope we can get to talk more about Blender sometime soon. grin
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by Amhatu(m): 11:53pm On Jan 08, 2013
@ PhenomenonVF, I have been reading some forum topics on CG & 3d in Nigeria on this Nairaland Forum for sometime. I have noticed many are looking for Howto's , Making Super Hero Characters Etc.


At one time I was part of another forum in 2010 but they have since updated their platform.


Would you suggest a forum should be established to talk specifically about CG & 3d in Nigeria?

For Example : cg-3d-nigeria.com , (or any suitable website name) etc.

For Me at the next 3 months I am producing a short reel to test for a big project & adapting to Open shader Language in new Blender 2.65 .

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Scincerly,
Amhatu

Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by PeterReezer: 1:16am On Jan 09, 2013
try this link..... www.awafoundation.net/forum/
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by Amhatu(m): 1:40am On Jan 09, 2013
@ PeterReezer, Thanks for the link.
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by ladanski(m): 10:16am On Jan 09, 2013
Hey fellow Blender user. Here is my latest render (but not my latest work). Still polishing my character animation skills. cheesy

Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by Amhatu(m): 4:34pm On Jan 09, 2013
@ladanski(m) , Nice work. If possible I would be glad to use your Building model in my Short reel, it will play a good part in the plot . I will give you credit on the ending. Also I give you a copy of my reel in HD format.


Scincerly,
Amhatu
Re: Setting Standards In 3d Animation In Nigeria by darksider: 7:07pm On Jan 09, 2013
wots d fuzz about blender. its just like a normal 3d app.

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