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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 11:47am On Nov 18, 2015
Radoillo:


Then some posts later, you did go after Mozart. cheesy

Mozart (or should I say Moorzart) down, Einstein to go! smiley

I just could not ignore Moorzart. So, I now suggest a re-examination of those paintings in our Integrated Science, Physics, Mathematics and Biology textbooks that have programmed us to be learners of science and to be dependent on White People to implement Science.

University Education was introduced from Africa into Europe through Southern Spain.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by ilaro: 2:33pm On Nov 18, 2015
I just wish my people can study... I am glad my curiosity at a very small age ignited the interest in finding out the truth about Africans and who we truly are as people on this earth. Go to museums in Europe and countries in the Northern hemisphere and these truths will just reveal itself to you. Just get books and read... study! Go for very old books published before the present so-called Europeans switched things over and it will be clear to you that the people of Africa were and are great people.

Once, a very old woman from Africa who haven't come in contact with a White European before went to visit Europe. On meeting the white, face to face for the first time said, "This is our distant albino sister. Let me hug you. All is well!" Later she was asked what she meant and she replied that they are us and came from us. FYI: science also supports this claim too.

Your ancestors don't call nature for fun. They don't call the rain, sun, rivers, trees, wind, thunder, moon, stars e.t.c for fun. They don't listen to the ground for fun.

Let no one tell you your history. You are the one. You are the one. You are the universe.

Know thyself.

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by DeadNegroids: 5:22pm On Dec 01, 2015
This idiots using a fake photoshopped image that was made in a Belgian radio station in 2010. You idiots will believe anything:

Mozart c. 1780, detail from portrait by Johann Nepomuk della Croce

"Mozart's physical appearance was described by tenor Michael Kelly, in his Reminiscences: "a remarkably small man, very thin and pale, with a profusion of fine, fair hair of which he was rather vain"."

Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by DeadNegroids: 5:25pm On Dec 01, 2015
Karl (or Carl) Thomas Mozart (21 September 1784 – 31 October 1858) was the second son, and the elder of the two surviving sons, of Wolfgang and Constanze Mozart. The other was Franz Xaver Wolfgang Mozart.
Biography

Karl was born in Vienna. His schooling, in Prague, was under Franz Xaver Niemetschek and František Xaver Dušek, and he became a gifted pianist. Before he finished his schooling, however, he left for Livorno in 1797 to begin his apprenticeship with a trading firm.

He planned to open a piano store in the following years, but the project failed for lack of funds. He moved to Milan in 1805 and studied music with Bonifazio Asioli, though he gave up his studies in 1810 to become an official in the service of the Austrian financial administration and the governmental accounting department in Milan. He also served as official translator for Italian for the Austrian Court Chamber. He owned a house in the village of Caversaccio in Valmorea, Province of Como; he appreciated the amenities of the place and the wholesomeness of the water. He bequeathed the house to the town, which is stated on a plaque dedicated to him. The Town Hall keeps a copy of the will.

He also frequently attended events related to his father until his death in Milan in 1858. Like his brother, he neither married nor had children, and the direct Mozart line thus died with him.

This is an 1856 daguerreotype of Mozart's son Karl Thomas Mozart.

Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by DeadNegroids: 5:47pm On Dec 01, 2015
Osborne Perry Anderson (1830–1872) was an African-American abolitionist and the only surviving African-American member of John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry, and later a soldier in the Union army of the American Civil War.

In 1830 Anderson was born a free African American in Chester County, Pennsylvania. He completed basic schooling and later attended Oberlin College in Ohio, after which he moved to Chatham in Canada West (now Ontario) in 1850 and opened shop as a printer. This skill served him later as an abolitionist.

In the spring of 1858 Anderson met John Brown and learned of the revolution that he was planning. Because of his writing skills Anderson was appointed as the recording secretary at several of the meetings and was eventually promoted to a member of Brown’s provisional congress.

A Voice From Harper's Ferry and later life:

"Of the slaves who followed us to the Ferry, some were sent to help remove stores, and the others were drawn up in a circle around the engine-house, at one time, where they were, by Captain Brown's order, furnished by me with pikes, mostly, and acted as a guard to the prisoners to prevent their escape, which they did. As in the war of the American Revolution, the first blood shed was a black man's, Crispus Attuck's, so at Harpers Ferry, the first blood shed by our party, after the arrival of the United States troops, was that of a slave. In the beginning of the encounter, and before the troops had fairly emerged from the bridge, a slave was shot. I saw him fall. Phil, the slave who died in prison, with fear, as it was reported, was wounded at the Ferry, and died from the effects of it… The first report of the number of 'insurrectionists' killed was seventeen, which showed that several slaves were killed; for there were only ten of the men that belonged to the Kennedy Farm who lost their lives at the Ferry, namely: John Henri Kagi, Jerry Anderson, Watson Brown, Oliver Brown, Stewart Taylor, Adolphus Thompson, William Thompson, William Leeman, all eight whites, and Dangerfield Newby and Sherrard Lewis Leary, both colored. The rest reported dead, according to their own showing, were colored."

During the raid, Col. Lewis Washington, great grand-nephew of George Washington, who had been taken hostage by the raiders, surrendered Frederick the Great's sword and pistols presented by General Lafayette, to Anderson. John Brown later used these to command his men at Harpers Ferry.

After the failed raid, Anderson went on to write an account of the events, which he named A Voice From Harper’s Ferry. The book describes the conditions that were present at the Harpers Ferry raid, including the training, the supplies that were available, and the events that led up to the raid.

Upon the start of the Civil War Anderson became a noncommissioned officer of the Union Army. He died in Washington D.C. in 1872. He was interred at Columbian Harmony Cemetery.

During the raid on Harpers Ferry Anderson was stationed with Albert Hazlett, and once it became apparent to them that the raid was a failure they both retreated to Pennsylvania. Hazlett was later captured and put to death.

Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by kihemeje96(f): 6:39pm On Dec 01, 2015
Lol!
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 8:03am On Dec 07, 2015
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by DeadNegroids: 1:53am On Dec 08, 2015
King William III of Scotland, England, and Wales was a white man.


Portrait of King William III by Sir Godfrey Kneller

Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 7:18am On Dec 08, 2015
DeadNegroids:
King William III of Scotland, England, and Wales was a white man.


Portrait of King William III by Sir Godfrey Kneller





That is the whitened version. #BlackedOutByWhiteWashed #WhenTheWorldWasBlack

King William III House of Orange King of Scotland, England, and Wales - See more at: http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/king-william-iii-of-scotland-england-and-wales/#sthash.lj4NSUKg.81YK2fz5.dpuf

Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by Nobody: 7:30am On Dec 08, 2015
jantavanta:



That is the whitened version. #BlackedOutByWhiteWashed #WhenTheWorldWasBlack

King William III House of Orange King of Scotland, England, and Wales - See more at: http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/king-william-iii-of-scotland-england-and-wales/#sthash.lj4NSUKg.81YK2fz5.dpuf


What's your definition of "Black"? If it's the same definition that the rest of mankind holds, I don't see how even this darker portrait of William III can be said to represent a black man.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 8:22am On Dec 08, 2015
Radoillo:


What's your definition of "Black"? If it's the same definition that the rest of mankind holds, I don't see how even this darker portrait of William III can be said to represent a black man.

And what is your definition of "White" ? Dark-skinned Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians? Curly-Haired Europeans? Welsh singer Tom Jones? Calabar-Welsh Singer Shirley Bassey?

One-drop Rule?

Why can there be variations of "White", but no variations of "Black" ?

We have Black people with naturally straight hair who migrated across to the Americas and to Asia, and to Europe 40,000 years ago. We even have blonde-haired blacks in the Pacific Islands.

Native Americans were called Indians, because they were as Indigo-skinned as Africans. "We" welcomed Christopher Columbus in the Americas.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by Nobody: 8:33am On Dec 08, 2015
jantavanta:


And what is your definition of "White" ? Dark-skinned Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians? Curly-Haired Europeans? Welsh singer Tom Jones? Calabar-Welsh Singer Shirley Bassey?

One-drop Rule?

Why can there be variations of "White", but no variations of "Black" ?

We have Black people with naturally straight hair who migrated across to the Americas and to Asia, and to Europe 40,000 years ago. We even have blonde-haired blacks in the Pacific Islands.

Native Americans were called Indians, because they were as Indigo-skinned as Africans. "We" welcomed Christopher Columbus in the Americas.


Did I ever say there can be no variations of 'Black' or are you just assuming that I think so based on your conversations with other people? My question with respect to the dark William III portrait is simple. Let me put the question differently: How far does your definition of black and its variations spread? Does it include Southern Italians and Spaniards? Do people who look like Antonio Banderas or Ray Romano qualify as Black in your book?
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by pleep(m): 9:21am On Dec 21, 2015
End Times Afrocentrism.

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:36am On Dec 21, 2015
pleep:
End Times Afrocentrism.

Welcome to my thread. #WhenTheWorldWasBlack smiley
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 8:50am On Dec 22, 2015
The Real Statues of Greeks

So many statues claimed to be Greek are 19th century fabrications, which continued into 20th Century Hollywood movies of Greece.



http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Minoan_Greece_2a.htm
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:02am On Dec 22, 2015
Original Greek God Apollo




Here is the typical fake that we know more about:

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:08am On Dec 22, 2015


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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:45am On Dec 22, 2015
Black Greek Youth with Dreadlocks



The Ancient Egyptians also painted their statues black to reflect the colour of their skin.

Pharaoh Tutankhamen

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by DeadNegroids: 11:16pm On Dec 23, 2015
Even your so called "black" version of William III depicts a white man.

Half of the nonsense you're posting comes from a site known as "realhistoryww" which was created by Mike111 a well known black supremacist.

The site you're getting all of your information from isn't even a credible source.

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:30am On Jan 07, 2016
DeadNegroids:
Even your so called "black" version of William III depicts a white man.

Half of the nonsense you're posting comes from a site known as "realhistoryww" which was created by Mike111 a well known black supremacist.

The site you're getting all of your information from isn't even a credible source.

Okay, if you find Stromfront, a White Supremacist site, more credible.

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t841589/

My dark haired German ancestor.. a question



In the picture below, his birth palce is recorded as Bavaria, Germany.

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 3:49pm On Feb 18, 2016
There has never been a time when Europe was occupied by only White People. Just as there was never a time when India was occupied by only light-skinned Indians.

But there was a time when Europe was occupied by only Black People; just as there was a time when India was occupied by only Black Indians.

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 6:43pm On Feb 28, 2016
Here is a book published in 1932 about the Black Irish of Jamaica

[img]http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/Barbados/Black_irish.JPG][/img]


An excerpt from a forum on
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=011151;p=1#000000

".....These negroes could not be explained as descendants of slaves owned by
early Irish colonists, for no such names appear among the land-owners in the survey
of 1670......"
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 11:44am On Mar 04, 2016
Anne Boleyn (1501–1536) was Queen of England from 1533 to 1536 as the second wife of King Henry VIII and Marquess of Pembroke in her own right. Henry's marriage to Anne, and her subsequent execution, made her a key figure in the political and religious upheaval that was the start of the English Reformation.



Though, the nose is damaged beyond recognition, the lips are undamaged and undoubtedly of a Black Woman
http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Anne_Boleyn_1.jpg
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by tpiar: 6:17pm On Mar 07, 2016
jantavanta:
WHEN WE RULED, by Robin Walker
"Meanwhile, the European translation centres of Moorish and Arabic texts, established in the 10th century had borne fruit. By the 12th century (1100s) and 13th century (1200s) there was the rise of major European Universities. Bologna University (Italy) was established in 1158, Montpelier (France) in 1180, Oxford (England) in 1200, Toulouse (France) in 1223, Rome (Italy) in 1245 and Cambridge (England) in 1257. Arguably, this process began the genesis of the European Renaissance."

These Moorish and Arabic texts were translations of Black Ancient Egyptian knowledge. The European Renaissance was African Knowledge transmitted by [Black] [Muslim] Moors to Black-Ruled Christian European Kingdoms.

In the 1200s the Kanems (prior to the Kanem-Bornu amalgamation) were sending Ambassadors to the Ottoman Court in Istanbul (formerly Constantinople). They did not describe Europe as a continent of White People. By the 1500s, the Kanem-Bornu Empire included Southern Libya while Tripoli in Northern Libya was under the Black Germanic Roman Emperor, Charles V http://www.nairaland.com/955076/black-african-nobility-ancient-europe/2#11921981 who was the Lord of Tripoli (through his other title as: Charles I, King of Spain). The Kanem-Bornu of that era knew that Europe was a Black-Ruled mixed continent and did not accord civilization, development, etc to "whiteness"

link?
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 2:55pm On Mar 08, 2016
tpiar:


link?

Joseph Ben-Jochanan's books. Cannot remember which one.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by tpiar: 3:44pm On Mar 08, 2016
Thanks.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by tpiar: 11:07pm On Mar 08, 2016
what is the possibility of non-blacks being present and resident in subsaharan Africa prior to the 14th centuries?
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 8:45am On Mar 09, 2016
tpiar:
what is the possibility of non-blacks being present and resident in subsaharan Africa prior to the 14th centuries?

After 14th Century, Non-Blacks came into Sub-Saharan Africa out of desperation, escaping from problems.

But I think non-Black Turkish people, re-culturized as Arabs, have been here before 14th century.

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by tpiar: 4:16am On Mar 10, 2016
jantavanta:


After 14th Century, Non-Blacks came into Sub-Saharan Africa out of desperation, escaping from problems.

But I think non-Black Turkish people, re-culturized as Arabs, have been here before 14th century.

From all appearances, it seems there were non blacks in subsaharan Africa before the 14th century, but its very difficult to know anything about them.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by DeadNegroids: 10:53pm On Apr 15, 2016
Both of those Greek sculptures are clearly Caucasoid.

Neither of them look remotely black.

This Abraham Lincoln statue and Thomas Jefferson statue are both dark, it must mean that they're black. (;

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