bobbyjabo:

Yea you right..I guess you have a pretty good job you doing wherever in oversea you are...speak for yourself brof,but you know there alot of people in oversea that wake up at 6.00am in that cold weather to go and wash toilet or resume in kitchen or carer house.Would you say there lifes is better of if they were in Nigeria?

PortHarcourtBoy:

Bros no doubt, I was grabbing like £1,600 after tax and NI at the end of every month which for some, that may be good enough...afterall some of our househelps in Naija work for as low as 10k a month which is even less than £50...Imagine if such a person lands in the UK and gets an equivalent of 350k monthly for offering same services...Omo, such a person would rule out returning home.

The fact was, I never felt happy and fulfilled within myself while in the UK owing to the fact that I'd invested so much in education, so why the heck should I be doing dishes when I should be in an office or field role that matches my course of study...I knew I was only wasting my time staying further...I woke up one morning and booked a ticket back home, today I thank God for that singular move because I landed my dream job 4 months after my return...

Also, contrary to what you stated in ur post, Britain doesn't have enough manpower to take on their white collar jobs, but the British would
rather hire an Indian than hiring a Black African, at most they'd go for a Caribbean.

chreld_b: ok drzed.
what the phuck is your point? a what positive message are you trying to pass across? that we sould all remain in diaspora or relocate to the village? what the phuck r u saying. respond and i'll reply. its weekend i have time

bobbyjabo:

Yea you right..I guess you have a pretty good job you doing wherever in oversea you are...speak for yourself brof,but you know there alot of people in oversea that wake up at 6.00am in that cold weather to go and wash toilet or resume in kitchen or carer house.Would you say there lifes is better of if they were in Nigeria?

Keneking: What does Diaspora mean?

drzed:

Let me help you re-phrase your statement so you can get a different perspective of your own argument/logic:

"the only Achievement majority of Nigerians in cities can boast of is EXPOSURE ...in my opinion, only the wise ones makes that bold step to relocate back to the villages.

How does that sound to you? Oya, we are waiting for you to relocate back to your village. Dont forget to take your 'exposure' along with you. And make sure you dont loose it (exposure) along the way o! cos that's the only thing you have over your village counterparts.

drzed:

You have a good argument. However, it is also true that a lot of people wake up at 4.00am in Lagos just to be a molue conductor or sell Gala on Falomo bridge. Would you say their lives are better than every village dweller? Maybe, maybe not. It depends on which villager you are comparing them with, and it depends on what options would be available to them if they returned to the village.

Some people want to be in Lagos just for the heck of it. A fairly decent choice that we must all respect. Many others are in Lagos because they are actively supporting younger ones and aged parents in the village by waking up at 4.00am either to sell Gala - or work in a Bank. Hence, the same way people get up by 6.00am just to get to work in New York, London or Toronto....and they still support people back home in Nigeria, regardless of their skill level or salary. There is no option that is better or best. It all depends on the individual and his unique circumstance.

Where you live, work or call your home is a matter of choice or circumstances. Its not where you are from, but where you are -that really matters in the long run. Otherwise, most of us should vacate the towns and cities where we live/work today and relocate to our ancestral villages or hamlets. Are some diasporans better of in Nigeria? Most definitely. Are some Nigerian city hustlers better of in their villages? Most definitely.

Every choice in life has its consequences.

bobbyjabo:

You are missing some points here! let me explain it to you..relocating from Village to City, you are still in the same country where you have equal RIGHT with the rest of the people in the city you relocate to. You can never have the same right with these white people coz its not your country and if you eventually become a citizen of that country theres still gonna be some kind of discrimination against you because of your skin colour and you will always be second citizen FACT!

And the point of this topic is ''What Motivates Diasporans To Relocate Back To Nigeria'' and part of the answer in my own opinion is EXPOSURE coz you are more expose to alot of things your mates back home are not expose to (thats if you have brain anywayz) no offense tho,just saying. let me give you a couple of Examples...

(1) James Ibori(Ex Governor of Delta State)...he took that bold step and relocate back to NIgeria coz he feels his brainy and expose enough to maneuver his way to riches in Nigeria which he couldnt do while he was living in UK and guess what eventually he did but overdo it(greediness) which landed him where he is today

(2) Michael Sata(President of Zambia)...He was a railway sweeper in london,he took that bold step and relocate back to his country and becomes the president of his fatherland

Bottomline is if you got brain and exposed,theres a better chance of you making it big in your fatherland than washing pots and sweeping the street in oversea SIMPLE.

bobbyjabo:

You are missing some points here! let me explain it to you..relocating from Village to City, you are still in the same country where you have equal RIGHT with the rest of the people in the city you relocate to. You can never have the same right with these white people coz its not your country and if you eventually become a citizen of that country theres still gonna be some kind of discrimination against you because of your skin colour and you will always be second citizen FACT!

And the point of this topic is ''What Motivates Diasporans To Relocate Back To Nigeria'' and part of the answer in my own opinion is EXPOSURE coz you are more expose to alot of things your mates back home are not expose to (thats if you have brain anywayz) no offense tho,just saying. let me give you a couple of Examples...

(1) James Ibori(Ex Governor of Delta State)...he took that bold step and relocate back to NIgeria coz he feels his brainy and expose enough to maneuver his way to riches in Nigeria which he couldnt do while he was living in UK and guess what eventually he did but overdo it(greediness) which landed him where he is today

(2) Michael Sata(President of Zambia)...He was a railway sweeper in london,he took that bold step and relocate back to his country and becomes the president of his fatherland

Bottomline is if you got brain and exposed,theres a better chance of you making it big in your fatherland than washing pots and sweeping the street in oversea SIMPLE.

drzed:

Firstly, there is no need to use foul language. We dey fight? We are here to share experiences or our opinion.

My point is, let us not simplify being abroad vs. returning to Nigeria in terms of frustration, deportation or economics. People have choices. Some people live in The Gambia not because it is better than Nigeria in all respects, but because that is where they have opportunities. Same way we have expatriates in Nigeria today working in our flour mills, bakeries, supermarkets, oil sector, schools and telecoms industries. It all depends on individual choices - and the circumstances that influence those choices.

This is why I always use the City vs. Village analogy. If my old man had remained in the Village, maybe I would have become the champion yam-farmer among my generation. He moved to a city and the rest is history. BUT, not all of my father's mates in the village are worse off today. Some did quite well. Including their children.

I really do not have time for this trash. my point is stop talking trash. you can continue in your fake pseudointelgence though that is non of my business. I REFRAIN FROM CONTRIBUTING TO THIS THREAD. I have said my own.

This was why (in my previous post) I agreed wholeheartedly with your earlier statement that 'diaspora no be heaven and Nigeria no be hell'.

Thats my point.

chreld_b:

[s]Firstly, there is no need to use foul language. We dey fight? We are here to share experiences or our opinion.

My point is, let us not simplify being abroad vs. returning to Nigeria in terms of frustration, deportation or economics. People have choices. Some people live in The Gambia not because it is better than Nigeria in all respects, but because that is where they have opportunities. Same way we have expatriates in Nigeria today working in our flour mills, bakeries, supermarkets, oil sector, schools and telecoms industries. It all depends on individual choices - and the circumstances that influence those choices.

This is why I always use the City vs. Village analogy. If my old man had remained in the Village, maybe I would have become the champion yam-farmer among my generation. He moved to a city and the rest is history. BUT, not all of my father's mates in the village are worse off today. Some did quite well. Including their children.[/s]

I really do not have time for this trash. my point is stop talking trash. you can continue in your fake pseudointelgence though that is non of my business. I REFRAIN FROM CONTRIBUTING TO THIS THREAD. I have said my own.
[s]
This was why (in my previous post) I agreed wholeheartedly with your earlier statement that 'diaspora no be heaven and Nigeria no be hell'.

Thats my point.[/s]

Sagamite: - Culture and sociability
- Career acceleration
- Money or improved disposable income
- Familiarity
- Family and friends
- Social class climbing (power) and chics that come with it
- Less rules and more flexibility
- No gays on the streets

drzed:

Firstly, there is no need to use foul language. We dey fight? We are here to share experiences or our opinion.

My point is, let us not simplify being abroad vs. returning to Nigeria in terms of frustration, deportation or economics. People have choices. Some people live in The Gambia not because it is better than Nigeria in all respects, but because that is where they have opportunities. The same way that (inspite of armed robbery, kidnapping, planes-falling-from-the-sky, boko haram, lack of electricity, corruption, etc) we have many expatriates in Nigeria today working in our flour mills, bakeries, supermarkets, oil sector, schools and telecoms industries. It all depends on individual choices - and the circumstances that influence those choices.

This is why I always use the City vs. Village analogy. If my old man had remained in the Village, maybe I would have become the champion yam-farmer among my generation. He moved to a city and the rest is history. BUT, not all of my father's mates in the village are worse off today. Some did quite well. Including their children.

This was why (in my previous post) I agreed wholeheartedly with your earlier statement that 'diaspora no be heaven and Nigeria no be hell'.

Thats my point.

drzed:

1. Please make your OWN statements clear.
2. Dont misquote me by inserting/mixing your comments in the quote. A honest mistake, I presume.
3. I do not claim any 'pseudointelgence' as you put it.
4. Would you rather I sounded like a pseudo-idyot?
5. If giving my opinion (devoid of any insult or personal attack) upsets you, then that is not my fault.
6. Take it easy. This is Nairaland, not Angerland (just kiddin).

gbollykore: Where did people get the idea that everyone that live overseas wash dishes and do menial jobs,there are Nigerians that are professionals, business owners, and so on
Agreed some people might be doing odd jobs but when they think about their background they still thank God for the opportunity to be working in these countries, i know a guy whose family had it very rough growing up, He lives in the Usa and drives a cab and he has been able to do a lot for his family members, moved his parents out of the slum they grew up in, supported the younger ones and has even managed to build himself a house in Nigeria, just by driving a cab in the USA
the question is how many taxi drivers or how many carpenters are able to do this back home
Even though i live in the USA i love my country, and am very passionate about her, but lets face the fact we have a lot of unsolved problems in Nigeria, i always like to think in the context of an ordinary man in the streets of Lsgos , not the one that supposedly has a good job (that might not be there tomorow), if a family decides to stay abroad its their choice, they should therefore enjoy everyday of their lives
its not every Nigerian that live in the USA that wash dishes, some of us are employers of labour and have Americans that answer to us ( to the glory of God almighty)
lets not push the problem under the carpet, there are unaddressed problems in our country
Truly Nigerian

drzed:

You have a good argument. However, it is also true that a lot of people wake up at 4.00am in Lagos just to be a molue conductor or sell Gala on Falomo bridge. Would you say their lives are better than every village dweller? Maybe, maybe not. It depends on which villager you are comparing them with, and it depends on what options would be available to them if they returned to the village.

Some people want to be in Lagos just for the heck of it. A fairly decent choice that we must all respect. Many others are in Lagos because they are actively supporting younger ones and aged parents in the village by waking up at 4.00am either to sell Gala - or work in a Bank. Hence, the same way people get up by 6.00am just to get to work in New York, London or Toronto....and they still support people back home in Nigeria, regardless of their skill level or salary. There is no option that is better or best. It all depends on the individual and his unique circumstance.

Where you live, work or call your home is a matter of choice or circumstances. Its not where you are from, but where you are -that really matters in the long run. Otherwise, most of us should vacate the towns and cities where we live/work today and relocate to our ancestral villages or hamlets. Are some diasporans better of in Nigeria? Most definitely. Are some Nigerian city hustlers better of in their villages? Most definitely.

Every choice in life has its consequences.
Eruditely written. Brilliant, with depth

gbollykore: Where did people get the idea that everyone that live overseas wash dishes and do menial jobs,there are Nigerians that are professionals, business owners, and so on
Agreed some people might be doing odd jobs but when they think about their background they still thank God for the opportunity to be working in these countries, i know a guy whose family had it very rough growing up, He lives in the Usa and drives a cab and he has been able to do a lot for his family members, moved his parents out of the slum they grew up in, supported the younger ones and has even managed to build himself a house in Nigeria, just by driving a cab in the USA
the question is how many taxi drivers or how many carpenters are able to do this back home
Even though i live in the USA i love my country, and am very passionate about her, but lets face the fact we have a lot of unsolved problems in Nigeria, i always like to think in the context of an ordinary man in the streets of Lsgos , not the one that supposedly has a good job (that might not be there tomorow), if a family decides to stay abroad its their choice, they should therefore enjoy everyday of their lives
its not every Nigerian that live in the USA that wash dishes, some of us are employers of labour and have Americans that answer to us ( to the glory of God almighty)
lets not push the problem under the carpet, there are unaddressed problems in our country
Truly Nigerian