Being controled (put under a spell) by a girl in a relationship, is like being on a plane filled with snakes. Cos travelling on a plane is suppose to be a pleasure ride. but when a plane is filled with snakes, you can imagine the kind of trip you are bound to have. That's the same thing with a man/guy dating a girl who unknown to him is fetish or using 'jazz' to have a hold on him. making him look/behave like a mumu. cos whenever a guy is going into a relationship with a girl, he's going into it with positive expectations. but when the guy now end up being jazzed by the girl, you can imagine how the relationship is going to be afterwards. some men are in such a relationship/under a spell. and when you see them you will know. and not a few ladies are now doing juju (voodoo) to hook or have a hold on a man, in order to have control over him and also for other benefits. But just like the case of everyday is for the thief but one day is for the owner, definitely one day such jazz is bound to fail. No matter the number of times a girl goes to renew it, surely her jazz over a man would become watery/useless one day, and all her evil deeds would be exposed. and for those ladies doing jazz (voodoo) to snatch someone else's husband or boyfriend, get your man back or fight someone over a guy using jazz. you are bound to lose the guy in the end. cos by the time both of you (another girl) are using jazz to win/control the same man, you are likely to end up killing/damaging the guy in the process. situations like this do happen. Jazz is not the answer. what's yours is yours. temporary is not the same as permanent/long lasting. Fake can never be genuine. Love can't be forced or bought or influenced. it flows naturally. Jazz/juju will definitely fail you one day. and yawa go con gas for your face.

" To those who are good/Godly, we need to be strong spiritually, in order not to become a ritual in the hands of ritualists (the wicked)"

So, its still in vogue!
''Hypnosis'' they call it!

The saying dt one travels wit plane full of snakes is not because d ride is not pleasurable. It simply means no logical form of escape. If it's a car, u can alwys slam d brakes and jump off, but in a plane, u either get killed, jump and die, or pray to survive d trip...as much as it fits wit your write up, your explanation for it is not.

God forbids i encounter such evil vampires. But op,it very much envogue but now in a different dimension.
Alot of our girls now visit all manner of places like prayer houses(the foundations they can not attest to),babalawos,ministries,diviners,astrologers,ball readers,clairvoyers,spiritisms just to find a husband,hook a guy or even seek for seed of the womb. They greet all this places with the ''target'' pictures,clothings,accessories,names etc ignorant of the inherent danger associated with such endeavour.
When the spell is eventually lifted off the target,they began to cry blue murder looking for a non existent factor to heap their fraustration on. Then the attendant heart break they never envisaged now begins to torment them decisively.

KINGwax: The saying dt one travels wit plane full of snakes is not because d ride is not pleasurable. It simply means no logical form of escape. If it's a car, u can alwys slam d brakes and jump off, but in a plane, u either get killed, jump and die, or pray to survive d trip...as much as it fits wit your write up, your explanation for it is not.

E se professor...noted!

ok, when you drive the ladies to desperation, what other options are you giving them?

is it everyone who is bible believing?

you keep running, giving various excuses both s.tupid and "unstupid", as to why you cant marry them [mind you, you're still a BACHELOR].


what do you want them to do?

Stay single forever?

tpia1: ok, when you drive the ladies to desperation, what other options are you giving them?

is it everyone who is bible believing?

you keep running, giving various excuses both s.tupid and "unstupid", as to why you cant marry them [mind you, you're still a BACHELOR].


what do you want them to do?

Stay single forever?

from their juju comments, u shall know them juju. As if dt justifies anytin. Juju pikin.

Arcadia: from their juju comments, u shall know them juju. As if dt justifies anytin. Juju pikin.

Arcadia: from their juju comments, u shall know them juju. As if dt justifies anytin. Juju pikin.

If you are a Christian, don't you pray to God to "arrest" the soul of someone for you so they will do things that favour you?

How is using juju different from that?

Mynd_44:
If you are a Christian, don't you pray to God to "arrest" the soul of someone for you so they will do things that favour you?

How is using juju different from that?

Another moronic expedition.

Crown Prince:

Another moronic expedition.

Smh

I bet some people here are juju pipu.

I dont believe in these kinds of rubbish. If it is possible why dem never use the juju or love spells marry the Richest men in Nigeria?
Its just like the blood money abi ritual bullshiit, if someone can become so rich instantly by sacrificing human being why dem never top Bill Gates as the worlds richest man?

Wise men invent these rumors/stories to defraud gullible people. In most cases, the juju priest that want to make you a millionaire is poorer than a church rat and all his children are living in poverty, yet you believe he can make you rich. If he has such powers why isnt he rich? Abi im nor like money?

Even the babalawo who is gonna give you love spells has female children that are not married. I cant believe people still believe in these kinds of things?

^^
true

I don't believe in it.

However, how do you know it's only women who do it? I'm sure there is a number of man doing the same.

carefreewannabe: I don't believe in it.

However, how do you know it's only women who do it? I'm sure there is a number of man doing the same.

You mean using means to hook a woman?
Why use juju when my wooing skill never fails me.

I believe people use juju on other people. Some pastors, girls, guys, business men and women, contractors etc. Its as a result of desperation either for fame, money, love. It is bad.....its scary. I won't come 1500km close to anybody I know that uses juju for whatsoever reason.

vivian chinaza: I believe people use juju on other people. Some pastors, girls, guys, business men and women, contractors etc. Its as a result of desperation either for fame, money, love. It is bad.....its scary. I won't come 1500km close to anybody I know that uses juju for whatsoever reason.

But you won't mind hanging with anyone who goes to his/her pastor to pray that God changes the mind of someone else the favour the person right?

Smh

Hmm, veggie seller dey shout say im own no be from trash heap.

I see some witches on the thread already.


Attack is the best form of defence, you dont say.


Turn to Jesus- he can set you free.

Dont die because of man.

Mynd_44:
But you won't mind hanging with anyone who goes to his/her pastor to pray that God changes the mind of someone else the favour the person right?

Smh

You know sometimes I don't understand you. Are you in this world at all? Well, you either believe in God or devil ok.

I'd prefer someone goes on her knees to change situation than being diabolical. There are forces of darkness everywhere for goodness sake.

vivian chinaza:

You know sometimes I don't understand you. Are you in this world at all? Well, you either believe in God or devil ok.

I'd prefer someone goes on her knees to change situation than being diabolical. There are forces of darkness everywhere for goodness sake.

I believe in freedom of religion and since we have a lot of religion they can do as they want.

Why is it that it is okay for you to go to your knees and pray for a situation to change and it not, you go see your pastor or Iman but if an idol worshipper goes to see a priest, you argue that it is evil. It is the same thing you are both doing.

I dont know of anyone who goes to a pastor to pray specifically in such a manner.

Not saying it doesnt happen, but if or when it does, its still juju related if it involves any element of juju.

Ordinary prayers for God to provide a husband, do not fit this description.

Maybe the person who gave the example can explain more although we all know its not everybody who says they're christian, who actually serve Jesus.

Anyway, the topic is about using juju to control a man.

Mynd_44:
I believe in freedom of religion and since we have a lot of religion they can do as they want.

Why is it that it is okay for you to go to your knees and pray for a situation to change and it not, you go see your pastor or Iman but if an idol worshipper goes to see a priest, you argue that it is evil. It is the same thing you are both doing.

Menh.......I won't argue about this with you. Stick to your opinion ok.

Mynd_44:
I believe in freedom of religion and since we have a lot of religion they can do as they want.

Why is it that it is okay for you to go to your knees and pray for a situation to change and it not, you go see your pastor or Iman but if an idol worshipper goes to see a priest, you argue that it is evil. It is the same thing you are both doing.

When it involves turning people into subhuman animals who lack the qualities that make them human, how is it not evil?

tpia1:


When it involves turning people into subhuman animals who lack the qualities that make them human, how is it not evil?

Subhuman you say. How are you sure of that? Have you ever seen that happen before? Have you ever done it?

And please lets keep nollywood movies out of this.

When things turn evil is when you start making human sacrifices and shît. Praying to you goddess/gods does not make one evil na.

I have heard a lot of pastors call out prayer points that " God enter into someone's heart and change him for another person's benefit"

I have heard people pray that the "holy Spirit should arrest a person's heart" is that not making the person subhuman? How come we don't call than evil?

vivian chinaza:

Menh.......I won't argue about this with you. Stick to your opinion ok.

Okay

Mynd_44:
Subhuman you say. How are you sure of that? Have you ever seen that happen before? Have you ever done it?

And please lets keep nollywood movies out of this.

nollywood movies are based on FACT ie what people actually do.

besides, is Aluu a nollywood movie?

When things turn evil is when you start making human sacrifices and shît. Praying to you goddess/gods does not make one evil na.

if the root is bitter, the tree and branches will be the same.

I have heard a lot of pastors call out prayer points that " God enter into someone's heart and change him for another person's benefit"

you heard a lot of pastors call out God should enter somebody's heart and make him marry a particular lady?


in any case, men are the ones most likely to start "seeing vision" a specific female is meant for them, and not her fiance!!!!

I have heard people pray that the "holy Spirit should arrest a person's heart" is that not making the person subhuman? How come we don't call than evil?

if you care to dust off a bible and read it, you'll get answers to your questions!

assuming whatever deity you worship doesnt forbid you from understanding what is there!

You seem to be confusing christianity with satanism and voodoo.

^^
First off, to think nollywood movies are based on fact is silly

2. You are turning yourself into a religious bigot by saying praying to a deity is evil. Why is it evil?
Cos they don't pray to your God?

3. Pastors don't pray into people to marry, but they sure do call out the holy spirit to enter the hearts of your boss who wants to fire you so as to change him mind.

5. Stop looking at things from the angle of your religion only. Everyone has a right to their own religion and if their religion includes invoking a demon to enter someone to make the person change his mind, how is that evil?
Afterall Gosh "hardened" Pharaoh's heart so he would not release the Israelites. Do we call God evil for that?

And BTW, I am Christian. I just believe other people have the right to their own religious beliefs without us calling them names.

^ you're the one calling yourself names and derailing the thread.

everything you mentioned in your post was done by you, not me, and if you have questions on religion, you can head to religion section.

as per thread title, do you have any opinion on the use of juju to control a man- would you be okay if a woman visited a babalawo on your behalf, in order to snag you.

yes or no, plz, not a long thesis about religion.

and no, you're not a christian, going by what you typed on this thread. "Dem born me for church" doesnt make someone a christian.

^^
I think you have my answer to the question already.

You were the person who started with "turning a person into a subhuman animals". I just replied that if it is okay in Christianity to pray that God changes someone, why is it evil if an idol worshipper does the same?

is it not subhuman to intentionally try to reduce others to that status based on what you say your idol told you?