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Shouldn't they be discussing BH.....am lost!

virgo:

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/kano-bill-on-ramadan-bonuses-rejected/118414/



To make the above article a lot simpler, here is my analysis in question and answer format

Que - what is the amendment all about?

Ans : Some lawmakers want an amendment to the existing law enacted(brought into force) in 2005 that makes it mandatory for the governor to pay the said bonuses.

Que - What is the amendment all about?

Ans : The amendment is supposed to give the governor the power to decide how and when he pays the bonuses.

Que - why isn't the ammendment making it compulsory for the governor to pay the bonuses, since he clearly doesn't want to pay?

Ans : Because the few legislators sponsoring it are trying to either curry favour with the governor by giving him discretionary powers over an existing law as he is seeking to do away with the law through a repeal. - Their thoughts -"don't take away the loaf. You can give us half bread". While the majority probably do not want favouritism in the payment of those bonuses. - Their thoughts - "comply with the law. Pay our bonuses!" . Okay, that is just my own analysis. Seriously NLanders, what is your take on the article?

And since when has it been the work of government to pay Ramadan and Ram allowance? I don't think it is even done in Saudi Arabia, I may have to find out. Afterall, the civil servant are being paid their salary and wages. So, what's this payment all about? Besides, is the payment only for the muslim population of the government workforce oor it includes their christian counterparts too? Honestly, I'm hearing this for the first time ... that government pay Ramadan and Ram allowance. O ga o!

mbhs139:

And since when has it been the work of government to pay Ramadan and Ram allowance? I don't think it is even done in Saudi Arabia, I may have to find out. Afterall, the civil servant are being paid their salary and wages. So, what's this payment all about? Besides, is the payment only for the muslim population of the government workforce oor it includes their christian counterparts too? Honestly, I'm hearing this for the first time ... that government pay Ramadan and Ram allowance. O ga o!

My friend, what is your problem, Its their money, they can spend it the way they like. In as much as the said bonus and allowance is for the interest of the Masses. Abi make poor civil servant no chop from yearly largesee?

mbhs139:

And since when has it been the work of government to pay Ramadan and Ram allowance? I don't think it is even done in Saudi Arabia, I may have to find out. Afterall, the civil servant are being paid their salary and wages. So, what's this payment all about? Besides, is the payment only for the muslim population of the government workforce oor it includes their christian counterparts too? Honestly, I'm hearing this for the first time ... that government pay Ramadan and Ram allowance. O ga o!

Have you heard of Christmas/December bonus?

maclatunji:

Have you heard of Christmas/December bonus?

Nothing like Christmas/December bonus..... you only have end of year bonus which is applicable to all.

The are using money meant for development to build mosques and go for pilgrimages. Money gotten from Kaffir's oil.

ayusman16:

Nothing like Christmas/December bonus..... you only have end of year bonus which is applicable to all.

The are using money meant for development to build mosques and go for pilgrimages. Money gotten from Kaffir's oil.

Speak for yourself. Go to National Assembly to change the constitution if you are so disturbed. End of year bonus... how very natural.

I never supported the yearly,ramadan and all sort of largese but we must understand that democracy is a game of number. Have the number you do anything like one of my great men HITLER did. Even the people cant complain because it is done everywhere only the name changes abi ?

Ganys: My friend, what is your problem, Its their money, they can spend it the way they like. In as much as the said bonus and allowance is for the interest of the Masses. Abi make poor civil servant no chop from yearly largesee?

It's not their money. It's our money. Why should our money be wasted by its custodians?

Which their money? How much and from what do they generate revenue? Shaking my head for this country, tomorrow they will start pointing fingers at GEJ when they are themselves evil.

the question that should be asked is this, do all workers get the gift abi na for just muslims alone? If all workers then they should stick with either 13 month or ramadan own....abegii there are too many almajiri on the streets to feed and cater for!

Dis is what u get when u have thieves & armed robbers according to Baba Iyabo in place of trust. while they shld b deliberating,strategizing on how to curb or stop d BH menace,they r busy wt mundane filthy desires. what a manner of law makers,don't b surprise,most of them can't read or write.

maclatunji:

Speak for yourself. Go to National Assembly to change the constitution if you are so disturbed. End of year bonus... how very natural.

Don't you think this is the reason why we have so much conflict in the land? leaders past and present have always used these religious based incentives to keep the masses pliant and divided. From pilgrimages (Christian and Muslim) to bonuses for religious holidays or events, our leaders have got it all wrong. Why not use these funds to develop crumbling infrastructures around the country instead?

WHO SAID IT IS THEIR MONEY?? As long as they collect FEDERAL MONEY it is our business. The federal government supports ALL states in the federation. Can you imagine?? How much IG does Kano generate?? Later people will start giving unecessarily complicated reason as to why that region is poor. Can you imagine?? Ram allowance for all civil servant. Are you kidding me?? Perhaps all Nigerian states deserve to be poor, but it seems some states deserve to be poorer than others.

Kwankwaso has already lost focus.

Instead of dem tinkin of ow 2solve bokoharam problem na ram sharing dey re dyen 4

if u say it is their money, u are right and if u also say it is our money u are also right. but i know that if u own something and u give a part to someone, u hav given him all the right attached to the money. there are so many religious bonuses to civil servants throughout the country just that they are not enacted by way of legislations. each and everyonr of us should check our respectives states too.the late okadigbo was never a muslim, bt claimed to have bought ileya ram with 'our money'.

useless pple, abokis and mis-placed priorities. mtcheww!

@ Funshint useless person oloshi omo, always think before u post anything

I can't imagine civil servants in the East demanding for New Yam Festival bonuses and allawances.

virgo:


Don't you think this is the reason why we have so much conflict in the land? leaders past and present have always used these religious based incentives to keep the masses pliant and divided. From pilgrimages (Christian and Muslim) to bonuses for religious holidays or events, our leaders have got it all wrong. Why not use these funds to develop crumbling infrastructures around the country instead?

Leave all that aside- how are you LLV? Now, to the topic, practice true federalism and not a disguised unitary system of government and this will not be an issue. Mind you, I am not an advocate of that national conference rubbish- we need free and fair elections where the people's votes count. Once elected officials are accountable to the people, you will not have all of this bitterness, suspicion, corruption and disorder in the land.

States that want to buy rams for each family can do so if they want or are we not in a democracy?

virgo:

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/kano-bill-on-ramadan-bonuses-rejected/118414/



To make the above article a lot simpler, here is my analysis in question and answer format

Que - what is the amendment all about?

Ans : Some lawmakers want an amendment to the existing law enacted(brought into force) in 2005 that makes it mandatory for the governor to pay the said bonuses.

Que - What is the amendment all about?

Ans : The amendment is supposed to give the governor the power to decide how and when he pays the bonuses.

Que - why isn't the ammendment making it compulsory for the governor to pay the bonuses, since he clearly doesn't want to pay?

Ans : Because the few legislators sponsoring it are trying to either curry favour with the governor by giving him discretionary powers over an existing law as he is seeking to do away with the law through a repeal. - Their thoughts -"don't take away the loaf. You can give us half bread". While the majority probably do not want favouritism in the payment of those bonuses. - Their thoughts - "comply with the law. Pay our bonuses!" . Okay, that is just my own analysis. Seriously NLanders, what is your take on the article?

legal Backing

maclatunji:

Speak for yourself. Go to National Assembly to change the constitution if you are so disturbed. End of year bonus... how very natural.

Stup[i]i[/i]d really. You seem a very irrational fellow.
End of yr bonuses are as common as the cold virus. Most private companies pay bonuses to workers at the end of the fiscal yr... in my company it is tied to employee performance. Ever heard of 13th month salary?

What has the above to do with governments paying sallah ram bonuses?

And we wonder why nigeria is going down the tubes. This is one example of why i mostly turn up my nose when i see computer jingoists like you bleating about how GEJ is the worst man on earth. Many of you are allergic to good governance and will excuse corruption as long as it favors you.

Ganys:
My friend, what is your problem, Its their money, they can spend it the way they like. In as much as the said bonus and allowance is for the interest of the Masses. Abi make poor civil servant no chop from yearly largesee?

Oh dear. What is most unfortunate is that someone actually did "like" this post.

I hope this man never criticizes the govt again... afterall it is their money to steal it the way they like no? hypocrite. In civilized countries, the govt takes care of the interest of the masses by providing transparent, stable and effective governance so the citizens have enough to buy their own ram... In nigeria, idi[i]o[/i]ts like you urge govt to buy rams for the people using money meant to provide radar facilities at dilapidated airports.

Just waiting for the next national tragedy so i can watch you and the wuss maclatunji take up your usual false anger directed at the govt.

davidylan:

Oh dear. What is most unfortunate is that someone actually did "like" this post.

I hope this man never criticizes the govt again... afterall it is their money to steal it the way they like no? hypocrite. In civilized countries, the govt takes care of the interest of the masses by providing transparent, stable and effective governance so the citizens have enough to buy their own ram... In nigeria, idi[i]o[/i]ts like you urge govt to buy rams for the people using money meant to provide radar facilities at dilapidated airports.

Just waiting for the next national tragedy so i can watch you and the wuss maclatunji take up your usual false anger directed at the govt.

Bobo ode!

maclatunji:

Leave all that aside- how are you LLV? Now, to the topic, practice true federalism and not a disguised unitary system of government and this will not be an issue. Mind you, I am not an advocate of that national conference rubbish- we need free and fair elections where the people's votes count. Once elected officials are accountable to the people, you will not have all of this bitterness, suspicion, corruption and disorder in the land.

States that want to buy rams for each family can do so if they want or are we not in a democracy?

I am with you on the need to practice true federalism, but don't you think also practising this welfare or nanny system is inimical to our growth?

davidylan:

Stup[i]i[/i]d really. You seem a very irrational fellow.
End of yr bonuses are as common as the cold virus. Most private companies pay bonuses to workers at the end of the fiscal yr... in my company it is tied to employee performance. Ever heard of 13th month salary?

What has the above to do with governments paying sallah ram bonuses?

And we wonder why nigeria is going down the tubes. This is one example of why i mostly turn up my nose when i see computer jingoists like you bleating about how GEJ is the worst man on earth. Many of you are allergic to good governance and will excuse corruption as long as it favors you.

Don't insult, just make your comment and pass, anyway, Y end of the year? Is it statutory? I don't need mine end of the year, I need it in May to celebrate the Jewish day or ramadan or sallah, is that a problem? A lot of companies and countries financial year does not follow the calendar year, in fact most start in August, so why wait till December to pay bonuses? Are you into finance? (if you are not find out from CBN, DMO, Bureau of Stat) check our debt profile and foreign reserves in the last two years and you will understand why GEJ might be the worst man.

virgo:


I am with you on the need to practice true federalism, but don't you think also practising this welfare or nanny system is inimical to our growth?

The job of the government is to minimise social costs and maximise social benefits. If the people want rams and they voted you in on the 'ram platform', give them ram. Seriously though, you need to look at everything as a whole and not just in isolation. I can guarantee you that if all the rich Muslims paid Zakat(the Islamic tax). There would be more than enough money to wipe poverty in Nigeria irrespective of your religion because money does not know religion when it is deployed as capital or as a means of exchange. Just go back to true federalism.

free R1:

Don't insult, just make your comment and pass, anyway, Y end of the year? Is it statutory? I don't need mine end of the year, I need it in May to celebrate the Jewish day or ramadan or sallah, is that a problem? A lot of companies and countries financial year does not follow the calendar year, in fact most start in August, so why wait till December to pay bonuses? Are you into finance? (if you are not find out from CBN, DMO, Bureau of Stat) check our debt profile and foreign reserves in the last two years and you will understand why GEJ might be the worst man.

Are you minding him? The mixture of his lack of decorum and overbloated ego is potent-enough to supply Nigeria electricity for a thousand thousand years.

David, we have seen you, now run along and play.

ayusman16:

Nothing like Christmas/December bonus..... you only have end of year bonus which is applicable to all.

The are using money meant for development to build mosques and go for pilgrimages. Money gotten from Kaffir's oil.

I dont know whether it exists in the the public sector, but in many private sector organizations there are turkey/christmas bonuses or under similar nomenclature. And I'm not talking about performance-based end-of-year bonus and 13th month, which are entirely different and are given in addition to the above.