thehomer:

No I don't know that he was talking about a soul. In fact, what you mean by "soul" may be different from what Deep Sight would mean by "soul" if it is what he was talking about.

Besides, is that what you think differentiates you from other animals?

Do animals have a soul? An inner sense that is capable of retrospection?

davidylan:
Might that be why elephants have been known to kill each other? If you have no argument its better to stop being desperate.

Maybe they are violating their moral codes. You need to find out.

davidylan:

Again quite daft. Deepsight was making a valid point. Humans have the remarkable ability of all animals on earth to possess a unique form of cognitive intelligence that animals lack. For example... do elephants have a moral code of conduct?

Is this unique form of cognitive intelligence a soul?

Martian:

Maybe they are violating their moral codes. You need to find out.

Or maybe they have none no? Have you seen an elephant arresting another for random killings? Dude you're just being deliberately argumentative just for the sake of it. I wont humor you.

thehomer:

Is this unique form of cognitive intelligence a soul?

No its not, just one more in a long list of unique features that set humans apart.

davidylan:

Do animals have a soul? An inner sense that is capable of retrospection?

Is this ability of retrospection a soul? Also, do you mean retrospection or introspection?

thehomer:

Is this ability of retrospection a soul? Also, do you mean retrospection or introspection?

Introspection sorry.

and no it is not the same as a soul.

Ishilove:
He's been deliberately dense

You're back again it seems. Without the inconsistencies of the theory of evolution I might add.
Why don't you run along and gather these inconsistencies?

davidylan:

No its not, just one more in a long list of unique features that set humans apart.

The elephant trunk is one thing in a long list of unique features that sets them apart.

davidylan:

Introspection sorry.

and no it is not the same as a soul.

Since you began with it, what is a soul?

thehomer:

The elephant trunk is one thing in a long list of unique features that sets them apart.

Again being deliberately obtuse.

thehomer:

Since you began with it, what is a soul?

It would be a waste of time since you are quite clearly not amenable to any explanation outside the realm of humanist thought.

davidylan:

Again being deliberately obtuse.

How? You can go back to where Deep Sight joined the discussion and read what he wrote. He simply said that there was something humans had that other animals didn't. I point out that there is something some animal has that others don't.
I'm simply trying to find out how a unique organ demonstrates an inconsistency with the theory of evolution.

davidylan:

It would be a waste of time since you are quite clearly not amenable to any explanation outside the realm of humanist thought.

Try me.
Unless of course you have a nagging doubt that you don't understand your explanation or that your explanation wouldn't be satisfactory to one who doesn't already accept your own point of view totally.

davidylan:
Or maybe they have none no? Have you seen an elephant arresting another for random killings? Dude you're just being deliberately argumentative just for the sake of it. I wont humor you.

lmao, have you seen a human naturally blending into his environment?? Just like you project your human sentiments to the universe as a whole and created god in your image, you are doing the same thing to animals by judging them according to your own human standard.

Anyway, Im ahead of you. As you can see, i was already joking when deepsight made the statement.

thehomer:

Since you began with it, what is a soul?

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Don't expect anything coherent. The soul is made of the same substance as god. Bullsh#t.

thehomer:

How? You can go back to where Deep Sight joined the discussion and read what he wrote. He simply said that there was something humans had that other animals didn't. I point out that there is something some animal has that others don't.
I'm simply trying to find out how a unique organ demonstrates an inconsistency with the theory of evolution.

Obviously he wasnt refering to a unique organ. Seriously get real.

thehomer:

Try me.
Unless of course you have a nagging doubt that you don't understand your explanation or that your explanation wouldn't be satisfactory to one who doesn't already accept your own point of view totally.

I've known you for over 2 yrs... explaining a concept that has spiritual undertones is a wasted exercise with you.

Martian: '

Don't expect anything coherent. The soul is made of the same substance as god. Bullsh#t.

and we are to believe you have been coherent so far?

Martian:

lmao, have you seen a human naturally blending into his environment?? Just like you project your human sentiments to the universe as a whole and created god in your image, you are doing the same thing to animals by judging them according to your own human standard.

Anyway, Im ahead of you. As you can see, i was already joking when deepsight made the statement.

Perhaps i might be more interested in listening to you the day a rat is smart enough to build an aircraft.

Martian: '

Don't expect anything coherent. The soul is made of the same substance as god. Bullsh#t.

I'd rather let him try before coming to that conclusion.
I've become more patient when dealing with these sorts of issues.

davidylan:

Obviously he wasnt refering to a unique organ. Seriously get real.

Well it wasn't obvious to me. Since you think that this thing is a soul, then we just have to discuss it.

davidylan:

I've known you for over 2 yrs... explaining a concept that has spiritual undertones is a wasted exercise with you.

That isn't quite true. Maybe we both have a different understanding of what the word "spiritual" connotes.
If you understood the spiritual much better, then I'm sure you would be able to do a good job in explaining what you mean and showing that it is actually there.

davidylan:

and we are to believe you have been coherent so far?

The idea you propose is a joke, so what do you expect?

davidylan:

Perhaps i might be more interested in listening to you the day a rat is smart enough to build an aircraft.

First, we have to find out if they have a moral code and if it's anything like the Elephants'.

davidylan:

Perhaps i might be more interested in listening to you the day a rat is smart enough to build an aircraft.

I think that was a good answer to your question about the "elephant police" arresting murderous elephants..........Ive actually seen this happen before.

thehomer:

You're back again it seems. Without the inconsistencies of the theory of evolution I might add.
Why don't you run along and gather these inconsistencies?

You are not serious

Ishilove:
You are not serious

Sharaap and make your arguments against eveloution, instead of copy and paste

davidylan:
explaining a concept that has spiritual undertones is a wasted exercise with you.

Experience has taught me this,so i have long stopped involving myself in any form of argument or debate with them because it is an exercise in futility

Ishilove:
Experience has taught me this,so i have long stopped involving myself in any form of argument or debate with them because it is an exercise in futility

You claim that God can not be understood by logic. Wouldnt that make God illogical and for the delusional?

Ishilove:
You are not serious

Oh but I am. Why don't you read your firs post on this thread?

logicboy01:

Sharaap and make your arguments against eveloution, instead of copy and paste

U sef sharaap and go learn proper spelling. It is EVOLUTION,not eveoloution or woteva it is you were trying to spell up there