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|Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by na2day!(m): 7:17am On Jul 07, 2012|
Back to bloody anarchy: Andrew Malone revisits Libya and finds a country riven by torture, mass murder and savage vengeance
On a baking hot day this week, the people of Libya’s most prosperous city flocked to the beach and splashed in the cooling waters of the Mediterranean. Such happy scenes were unthinkable in Misrata a year ago, when the world watched in horror as Muammar Gaddafi’s forces encircled and besieged this port city, unleashing what he called the ‘forces of Hell’.
Firing thousands of tank shells, mortars and missiles into residential areas, the Libyan dictator was determined to smash the uprising in Misrata, only three hours from his underground stronghold in Tripoli, the capital.
To add to the terror, he sent thousands of troops into battle, many of them African mercenaries who had been allowed into Libya in return for their undying loyalty to the despot. Gaddafi told them: ‘Misrata is yours.’ There was carnage. While local men were fighting back against Gaddafi’s troops, their homes were looted and their wives and children kidnapped. molestation was widespread, death everywhere.
Revenge: Rebels have destroyed the town of Tarwegha, which they believed to be loyal to Gaddhafi
Today, a year on from the horrors endured by ordinary Libyans, Misrata’s buildings remain riddled with holes from bullets and tank shells. But shops and cafes are open. There are funfairs for children. And there are those families enjoying the beach.
Yet there is one stretch of sand where no soul ever ventures. This is an area of scrub and dunes just back from the sandy coves.
Called Funduq Al-Jannah - Arabic for Heaven Hotel - it is an execution ground where up to 1,000 of Gaddafi’s fighters were taken by the victorious rebel army, then slaughtered in cold-blooded vengeance.
Everyone in Misrata knows of the events that unfolded at this desolate spot, but no outsiders had been here until I visited this week and heard the full harrowing details of what happened at Heaven Hotel - a bitterly ironic name, as I shall explain.
The killings highlight the bitter divisions and violence in Libya as its people vote today in their first election for a 200-member national assembly that will name a prime minister, enact legislation and appoint a committee to draft a constitution.
For the truth is that, since Gaddafi fell, Libya has been run by a National Transitional Council which has overseen a descent into anarchy.
A man walks past a destroyed building in Sirte yesterday, a day before Libyans will take to the polls
A report from Amnesty International this week warns the country is in the ‘stranglehold’ of hundreds of militias acting above the law. The organisation says widespread human rights violations - arbitrary arrests, detention, torture (sometimes to death), unlawful killings and forcible displacement of families - are rife in the country.
The levels of repression are reaching those that sparked the revolution against Gaddafi in the first place, and, according to the charity, methods of torture include ‘suspension in contorted positions and prolonged beatings with various objects, including metal bars and chains, electric cables, wooden sticks, plastic hoses, water pipes and rifle-butts’.
‘Some detainees were subject to electric shocks,’ it adds. ‘Without immediate action to stop abuses and lawlessness, there is a very real danger Libya could end up reproducing and entrenching the same patterns of violations we have seen in the past four decades.’
I was told of what happened at Heaven Hotel by a group of fighters I came to know at the height of Gaddafi’s siege of the town last year. They drove me to the spot up a bumpy dirt road past a beach crowded with families.
Here prisoners captured by the rebels were ordered to get out of the pick-up trucks into which they had been bundled after being tortured at rebel bases.
These Gaddafi fighters were the ‘worst of the worst’, I was informed - rapists and sadistic killers. Many had been mutilated and made to drink diesel - a form of torture common in Libya - and confessed To Molest before being taken to the killing ground near the sea.
Misrata’s rebel fighters reassured them they would not be harmed, that they were simply being taken for questioning at the ‘hotel’. It was a lie. As soon as the captives arrived, the killing started.
‘I’d told one of these dogs that we were taking them to Funduq Al-Jannah near the beach - he was really pleased and said that was good because his aunt lived in the area,’ a Misratan revolutionary told me. ‘We cut his throat first.’
Destruction: A man holding a Free Libya green flag walks past the remains of a destroyed building in Sirte
The prisoners’ hands were bound with plastic ties. They were ordered to lie on their side, with their heads on piles of sand. All my guides were involved, saying they had held the legs of the prisoners while their throats were cut with bayonets. Every one of them denied killing any captives themselves.
‘We burned some of the bodies before burying them in the sand,’ I was told. ‘I don’t know how many were killed - as many as 1,000.’
Most died in the immediate aftermath of the end of the war last August. But sources say people were still being taken to Heaven Hotel earlier this year.
The bodies were buried in a gulley across the sand from where we stood, explained my guides. Here, bulldozer tracks criss-crossed the area. The machines had been used to make large piles of sand and rocks to cover the bodies.
In blinding white sunlight, I scraped at the one of the piles of rock and sand. I found shoes, flip-flops and empty machine-gun cartridges near the surface. The men with me said this was a mass grave.
Later, I spoke to dozens of militia fighters. All told the same story: that Gaddafi fighters suspected of molestation or particularly brutal killings were slaughtered here for their crimes.
Senior military sources in the city also acknowledged the existence of Heaven Hotel. Indeed, older, wiser leaders in Misrata were horrified when they learned soon after the war that the prisoners were being killed in such a manner.
They ordered that, in future, all executions had to be carried out with a single bullet in the head - rather than by holding the victims down and cutting their throats.
‘After that, we always shot them,’ another militia fighter told me. ‘It was quicker and cleaner - better for everyone.’
Many of the victims were from Tawerga, a town 30 miles from here, where some 50,000 black Libyans once lived in happy co-existence with their neighbours in Misrata.
But since Gaddafi fell, the rebels have been targeting its black population in indiscriminate revenge attacks for the despot’s deployment of thousands of African mercenaries recruited from outside the country against them.
Some Tawergans undoubtedly took money to join Gaddafi’s forces. But vast numbers never joined in the fighting - and are being attacked simply because their skin colour is associated with Gaddafi’s mercenaries.
Today, Tawerga has been ethnically cleansed of its black Libyans, and largely destroyed. Militia fighters regularly drive out there from Misrata to make sure none of the population have sneaked back in.
Signs bearing the town’s name have been painted over. What remains of the shattered homes, shops and restaurants have been daubed with vile graffiti: ‘Black dogs! No blacks.’
Libyan election campaign posters hang in Misrata - but the city is still plagued by violence and chaos
A group of ‘freedom fighters’ told me how they had ransacked the town, setting fire to buildings and attacking anyone they found. These men told how they repeatedly kicked a heavily-pregnant Tawergan woman in the stomach. One said: ‘The woman was shouting as we kicked her: “I could be your mother.”
‘I told her my mother is not a black b***h,’ he added.
Some 25,000 Tawergans have now been placed in ‘refugee camps’, which are, in effect, little more than prisons.
The people in these camps do not dare leave: Misrata militias scour the country for anyone from Tawerga and regularly kidnap and torture black Libyans suspected of helping Gaddafi.
And even in the camps, fortified with barbed wire and watched by armed guards, the refugees are not safe from the marauding militias.
In a series of attacks, fighters from Misrata have opened fire on camp residents, killing both men and women. The latest happened at a camp for 1,700 Tawergans in Tripoli this week, when men from Misrata in four cars attacked with guns.
So bad has the situation been that some want the Nato-backed rebels to be tried for war crimes. The tragic irony is that Britain, France and the U.S. imposed a no-fly zone and helped overthrow Gaddafi to stop him committing war crimes.
Medical charities now refuse to work in Misrata. They pulled out after accusing rebels of bringing torture victims in for treatment - only to take them back for more torture once their wounds had recovered sufficiently for their bodies to cope.
A senior member of the city’s military council stressed that only rapists and the worst Gaddafi soldiers were executed at Heaven Hotel - and seemed baffled by any misgivings.
‘These people killed our families and Molested our children,’ this influential figure told me. ‘If you molestation, you must die - you have no rights.’
Nor, apparently, do critics of the killings. In recent days, one Libyan journalist was abducted by Misrata militias from the seafront in Tripoli, the capital, after saying these armed groups are out of control and need a ‘stick taken to them’.
Sulaiman Dougha, the country’s equivalent of David Dimbleby, was found in Misrata 72 hours after being snatched by men in balaclavas. He was tortured and sexually assaulted before being freed with a warning to leave the country - or be killed.
Not all are bent on vengeance. Mohammed Al-Koor, who runs one Misrata prison containing 700 Gaddafi supporters, had to move prisoners from cells visible from high buildings nearby, after Misrata snipers started killing inmates through the bars. In another disturbing development, these acts of revenge are now fuelling a new ‘rebel movement’ among Gaddafi supporters, financed by loyalists to the dictator who have escaped into neighbouring countries with billions.
For today’s election, thousands of police have been ordered on to the streets to show the world that Libya is safe. But the police are the only people in this country without guns: the militia fighters who overthrew Gaddafi with the help of British-backed Nato airstrikes say they cannot be trusted with weapons.
At the same time, fighting is raging in the south, where a brigade of Gaddafi loyalists, the Eagles of Muammar, has repeatedly tried to seize control of the airport in Sabha, a strategically vital city.
With a huge arsenal of artillery, mortars and missiles, followers of the dead dictator aim to push north towards the coast - and vow to avenge their leader, who was captured by rebels last October before being tortured and killed.
And in Sirte, where Gaddafi was found hiding in a sewage pipe, residents say they have had enough of the killing and kidnapping of suspected Gaddafi supporters - and are ready to fight back.
‘People still love Gaddafi, but they are scared,’ said one man. ‘Militias from other places come here every night and snatch men and boys from the streets. They say they come here to find guns, but they just want to kill people.’
With the country descending into a spiral of lawlessness and revenge, and with no national army to impose order, people all over this vast country are stock-piling weapons.
Zuba, an 18-year-old former rebel, showed me his personal arsenal of heat-seeking missiles, five Kalashnikovs, phosphorous grenades, ordinary green grenades and two rocket-propelled grenades.
Before leaving the country, I went back to Heaven Hotel alone early one morning to reflect on the degree of hatred that led to the slaughter there.
When I was reporting on the siege a year ago, I witnessed some of the atrocities inflicted by Gaddafi’s men - scenes of carnage and overwhelming grief I will never forget. This is Misrata’s bloody revenge.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by Kobojunkie: 7:20am On Jul 07, 2012|
For 42 years prior, Libyans knew no freedom. Yet the world expects them to get it all right in less than a year after ridding themselves of the shackles? Of course the anarchy is not going to end right after the people head to the polls. It has been 42 years in the making. It will take time but the good is the people are finally able to make the decision on their own.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by na2day!(m): 7:28am On Jul 07, 2012|
Kobojunkie: For 42 years prior, Libyans knew no freedom. Yet the world expects them to get it all right in less than a year after ridding themselves of the shackles? Of course the anarchy is not going to end right after the people head to the polls. It has been 42 years in the making. It will take time but the good is the people are finally able to make the decision on their own.
What decision are you on about? when more than half will not be able to come out to vote in fear of the big bullies behind machine gun mounted pickup trucks.
Do you seriously believe any good thing will come out of this?
What has happened is that a bully that made a country to work has been exchanged for a rabble of bullies hell bent on chaos!
Libya is another Afghanistan that has already happened!
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by seunny4lif(m): 8:54am On Jul 07, 2012|
I pray becos benghazi no wan agree wit tripoli gov ernment.Make God help us,becos i dey tripoli...If,i comot make dem kill each oda,na dem come knw.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by shymmex(m): 10:25am On Jul 07, 2012|
Libya's chance died with Gaddafi.
Libya is the new Somali, and the blood of the black people you killed shall haunt your country forever..
Fvcking arab terrorists!
Libya = FAILED STATE..
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by na2day!(m): 10:27am On Jul 07, 2012|
seunny4lif: I pray becos benghazi no wan agree wit tripoli gov ernment.Make God help us,becos i dey tripoli...If,i comot make dem kill each oda,na dem come knw.
Ol boy! u no like yaself at all o!
U no be blackman? you want make them mistake you for a Tawergan?
u beta pack ur load quick before the 2nd rebellion starts!
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by justwise(m): 10:37am On Jul 07, 2012|
They are walking in the right direction, though rocky but they will get there considering the fact that they just got independent from Gaddfi last year.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by Billyonaire: 10:45am On Jul 07, 2012|
The price of Freedom, sometimes I feel Freedom isnt worth it. The common Lybians will never again enjoy the dividends of their natural resources as was in the days of Muamar. Sometimes we fail to understand our state of bliss and keep complaining until the universe grants our irreversible wishes. Congrats Lybia, and welcome to African Democracy, where dogs eat dogs.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by kizito96(m): 10:56am On Jul 07, 2012|
They have to start from somewhere. The beginning is hard, but i pray they get it right
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by na2day!(m): 11:07am On Jul 07, 2012|
Sometimes an oppressive dictator is better than chaos.
Remove Gadaffi they said, it'll bring peace they said...they lied.
Gadaffi was a vile man but these are worse.
This is typical middle east!
You need a strong leader to control the tribes.
And this is where the west is wrong, anyway who cares as long as the oil is flowing!
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by mai gaskiya: 11:24am On Jul 07, 2012|
kizito96: They have to start from somewhere. The beginning is hard, but i pray they get it rightmaybe sm of us dnt realy undastnd the thread.d case of libya is worst dan gadahfis term.nw d libyas wil pay 4 wat dy did 2 gadafi.ds d only con3 in afrika wer its citizens lack ntng nd yet dy re nt satisfid.dy wantd democracy dy wil get it nd lets se d outcm.4d fact dat democracy workd in d west does nt mean it wil in afrika our mentality is difrnt,nija is a gud refrence.bt as 4 libya 4 darng 2 kil d greatest leadr in d history of afrika is a mistak dat wil hunt dm 4 ever
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by cap28: 11:27am On Jul 07, 2012|
A once beautiful country with the highest standard of living on the african continent has now been shattered by the agents of satan aka europe and america.
Who would have imagined that a country that was once no 52 on the United Nations Human Development Index (while nigeria was and remains at a miserable no 152) would be transformed into the pit of hell?
All of this because of the satanic forces of europe and america whose wickedness and jealousy could not bear the idea of an independent, prosperous african nation operating outside their satanic control.
NO world bank or IMF intrusion, no neo liberal economic policies that have reduced the rest of africa to economic basket cases, no media control that has reduced the average african to a bumbling fool with zero politcal awareness, no debt and no western control central bank - THE ABSENCE OF ALL THESE THINGS ENSURED THAT LIBYA'S DEMISE WAS GUARANTEED BY THE SATANIC FORCES OF THE WESTERN VAMPIRES.
Nigerians you had better open your ears and eyes and for once shut your mouths.
LISTEN AND WATCH!!! NO PROSPEROUS AFRICAN NATION THAT CAN NOT DEFEND ITSELF FROM NATO ATTACK WILL ESCAPE THIS - WHAT HAPPENED TO LIBYA WILL BE A DRESS REHEARSAL FOR WHAT IS COMING IN OTHER RESOURCE RICH AFRICAN NATIONS.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by cap28: 11:38am On Jul 07, 2012|
Black Libyans from Tawergha were lynched in full view of western journalists, these same journalists REFUSED TO CARRY THE STORY IN ANY OF THEIR NEWSPAPERS - MANY black libyans and other so called sub saharan africans WERE STRUNG UP FROM LAMP POSTS, OTHERS WERE TAKEN TO SLAUGHTER HOUSES AND BUTCHERED LIKE ANIMALS BY THESE US AND EU BACKED MONSTERS AKA THE NTC BUT NO WESTERN PRESS CARRIED THE STORIES UNTIL INDEPENDENT JOURNALISTS BEGAN TO EXPOSE ALL OF THIS. Now they come to you with more half truths,ommissions and outright lies about what is going on in a country they helped destroy.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by na2day!(m): 11:47am On Jul 07, 2012|
cap28: Black Libyans from Tawergha were lynched in full view of western journalists, these same journalists REFUSED TO CARRY THE STORY IN ANY OF THEIR NEWSPAPERS - MANY black libyans and other so called sub saharan africans WERE STRUNG UP FROM LAMP POSTS, OTHERS WERE TAKEN TO SLAUGHTER HOUSES AND BUTCHERED LIKE ANIMALS BY THESE US AND EU BACKED MONSTERS AKA THE NTC BUT NO WESTERN PRESS CARRIED THE STORIES UNTIL INDEPENDENT JOURNALISTS BEGAN TO EXPOSE ALL OF THIS. Now they come to you with more half truths,ommissions and outright lies about what is going on in a country they helped destroy.
You know Cap! the hypocrisy of the west is extra-ordinary.
sometimes i wonder how people like Sarkozy(Imagine, it was the same Gaddafi that financed his election), Hillary Clinton, Hague et al are able to sleep at night.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by cap28: 12:34pm On Jul 07, 2012|
My brother they are agents of satan - how can an agent of satan have a conscience?
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by nitlad: 12:53pm On Jul 07, 2012|
The West preyed on the Libyans' desires tew oust Gadaffi at whatever cost. Now that Gadaffi has been ousted, let them bear the brunt of the costs of ousting Gadaffi. One thing I am certain about is that they would blame no one for their present tribulations and the much more severe catastrophe that awaits them in future but themselves! And I definitely won't shed a tear for them.
Serves them right IMO.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by na2day!(m): 1:11pm On Jul 07, 2012|
Unfortunately, the events in Libya will continue to have widespread ramifications for the African sub-continent, part of it, is what is going on in Mali now and we should not even forget that our own Bokoharam developed fangs after Libya became lawless!
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by tantan: 3:01pm On Jul 07, 2012|
LIBYANS HAVE SOLD THEIR DIGNITY TO NATO. THEY ARE ALL FOOLS. THEY WILL NEVER EVER HAVE A LEADER LIKE GADDAFI. DURING HIS TIME LIBYA HAD D HIGHEST STANDARD OF LIVING IN AFRICA. FOOLS.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by Builder: 8:09pm On Jul 07, 2012|
This is what troubles me when the west talk about democrazy. there is absolutely nothing called that word and its meaningless, even the western world is controlled by lobby groups, defense hardward companies, media morgul and the rest... just recently, it became known that rupert muduck was telling tony blair to hurry up and invade iraq and that was the same time when milions were protesting , carrying placards against the invasion. most of the policies made are for the benefit of theese lobby groups. To the west been democractic is going out to vote, what happens afterwards is irrelevant, iraq today is a war zone, bomb going off like fireworks, yet the west keep saying iraq is a beacon of democrazy. I pity libyans, they just getting started.. the war that will happen in libya will make iraq look like a wedding reception, while the west devour their resources, already the IMF have loan them money for reconstruction, the uk is prinkting there money and france own 33% of their oil wells. even now as we speak, the NTC is not in control of anything, there are fractions drawing boundary and where they control fiercely... shame the western media dont seem to like reprting on this chaos there, since the demise of gadaffi.. thousands have lost their lives. i wish libya well but im not holding my breath
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by Roland17(m): 8:17pm On Jul 07, 2012|
Infact the anachy and disturbance has just started, Ghadaffi is the only leader libya has ever had and would ever have, they do not even know those vying to represent them in th parliament, ghadaffi's strong hold which is his home region has refused to participate in the election, claiming they are being marginalized with the number of slots allocated to them.. I think the unrest and troubles would increase..
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by zangality(m): 9:59pm On Jul 07, 2012|
Libyans should come and ask Nigerians what democracy has brought to us, silly set of people.This is just the beginning of their suffering...
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by oiseworld: 7:57am On Jul 08, 2012|
this is sadning, the west had better control this people before things get out of hand. The original idea of the ntc was to get ghadafi out. Now that that has been achieved, i don't expect them to start revenging themselves over a dead man. Haba. Ghadafi is gone, they should settle to forge ahead. Why kill? Soo funny the rebels think they are doing the right thing.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by seunny4lif(m): 10:22pm On Jul 08, 2012|
Thank God the election was successful in tripoli and the rest country.Waiting for the result to come in libya.
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by tociano009: 11:04am On Sep 12, 2012|
seunny4lif: Thank God the election was successful in tripoli and the rest country.Waiting for the result to come in libya.
Please i want to travel to libya by road, anybody who no road should pls tell me how i will travel by road and how much it will cost me
|Re: Libya Votes Today! Is The Anarchy Going To End? by Gold-mind(m): 12:54pm On Sep 12, 2012|
Boy! That country is a grave.
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