Please i need your honest answers related to the picture below:

1. what is your first opinion about the picture?
2. do u think it occurred by chance?
3. what are the odds of rain, wind, thunderstorms, lightning etc -severe weathering, producing the design of this work?
4. do u instantly think it was created by an intelligent designer?
5. which is easier to create, this work or a living cell?

if you have answered the questions above honestly, then please answer just one more
6. Do u still think Atheism/evolution/big bang theory makes sense?

snthesis: Please i need your honest answers related to the picture below:

1. what is your first opinion about the picture?
2. do u think it occurred by chance?
3. what are the odds of rain, wind, thunderstorms, lightning etc -severe weathering, producing the design of this work?
4. do u instantly think it was created by an intelligent designer?
5. which is easier to create, this work or a living cell?

if you have answered the questions above honestly, then please answer just one more
6. Do u still think Atheism/evolution/big bang theory makes sense?

Comparing the Mount Rushmore carvings to evolution or the big bang is simply a bad analogy. You need to look for a much better argument.

snthesis: Please i need your honest answers related to the picture below:

1. what is your first opinion about the picture?
2. do u think it occurred by chance?
3. what are the odds of rain, wind, thunderstorms, lightning etc -severe weathering, producing the design of this work?
4. do u instantly think it was created by an intelligent designer?
5. which is easier to create, this work or a living cell?

if you have answered the questions above honestly, then please answer just one more
6. Do u still think Atheism/evolution/big bang theory makes sense?

I'm sorry sir but this a very bad analogy.....

thehomer:

Comparing the Mount Rushmore carvings to evolution or the big bang is simply a bad analogy. You need to look for a much better argument.

mkmyers45:

I'm sorry sir but this a very bad analogy.....

what makes it a bad analogy?

This is the work of about 400 men and women over about 14 years.

InesQor: This is the work of about 400 men and women over about 14 years.

work done by an intelligent mind- not by a freakish accident- do you agree?

snthesis:
work done by an intelligent mind- not by a freakish accident- do you agree?

Sure I agree.

I'm a Theist.

InesQor:
Sure I agree.

I'm a Theist.

are u agreeing cos u r a theist

the aim of this thread is to present a logical correlation of observed events from which the reader can make an informed decision.

snthesis:




what makes it a bad analogy?

Basically, evolution is a process not a physical object, the big bang theory is a theory i.e a conceptual framework and not a physical object, atheism is the non-belief in a God and not a physical object.

Maybe I should have said you were making a category error in trying to compare things that aren't comparable.

thehomer:

Basically, evolution is a process not a physical object, the big bang theory is a theory i.e a conceptual framework and not a physical object, atheism is the non-belief in a God and not a physical object.

Maybe I should have said you were making a category error in trying to compare things that aren't comparable.

the "theories/processes" u listed are an end to a means- basically they disprove the very existence of a God/intelligent designer, and this pic aims to disprove those theories.

so pls answer the questions i raised, and then apply those answers to the ideology of those "theories/processes"

snthesis:
are u agreeing cos u r a theist

the aim of this thread is to present a logical correlation of observed events from which the reader can make an informed decision.

Oh please! I wonder how you're reading. I didn't say I agree because I am Theist. Placing it on another paragraph was for a contextual reason (linking to your own point 6, which was also on another paragraph). i.e. I am Theist, but points 1 to 5 don't necessarily point there.

I was clarifying to you that although I am a Theist who believes in intelligent design, yet your analogy with Mount Rushmore is quite poor because knowing that human beings did the carving, we can as well say that some advanced life-form outside our universe similarly carved this universe. IMHO it helps no case for your point 6 about atheism.

A far better analogy would be to use a wonderful natural life-form like The Barrel-Eye Fish and not a man-made artifact that we KNOW for sure was made by humans (who were simply more conscious agents than the artifact). Else, we might as well have been created by some extraconscious intergalactic aliens, and atheism might still be correct.

My 2 cents.

snthesis:
the "theories/processes" u listed are an end to a means- basically they disprove the very existence of a God/intelligent designer, and this pic aims to disprove those theories.

so pls answer the questions i raised, and then apply those answers to the ideology of those "theories/processes"

Actually, scientific theories aren't simply to disprove the existence of your God, they're there to help explain the world we find ourselves in. You've simply confused the purpose of these theories.

It will be pointless for me to answer those questions because the answers are irrelevant to what you're trying to say.

InesQor:
Oh please! I wonder how you're reading. I didn't say I agree because I am Theist. Placing it on another paragraph was for a contextual reason (linking to your own point 6, which was also on another paragraph). i.e. I am Theist, but points 1 to 5 don't necessarily point there.

I was clarifying to you that although I am a Theist who believes in intelligent design, yet your analogy with Mount Rushmore is quite poor because knowing that human beings did the carving, we can as well say that some advanced life-form outside our universe similarly carved this universe. IMHO it helps no case for your point 6 about atheism.

A far better analogy would be to use a wonderful natural life-form like The Barrel-Eye Fish and not a man-made artifact that we KNOW for sure was made by humans (who were simply more conscious agents than the artifact). Else, we might as well have been created by some extraconscious intergalactic aliens, and atheism might still be correct.

My 2 cents.

the logic is very simple, if you take the picture round the world and ask anybody if Mount rushmore could have occured by coincidence the answer will be 100% NO. cos everyone can clearly see the input of an intelligent design behind the carving- you dnt have to be told, what i rather find amusing that if something significantly less complex as a carving on a mountain can be deduced to be "made" how can certain folks attribute the creation of a cell as an accident/coincident

snthesis:
the logic is very simple, if you take the picture round the world and ask anybody if Mount rushmore could have occured by coincidence the answer will be 100% NO. cos everyone can clearly see the input of an intelligent design behind the carving- you dnt have to be told, what i rather find amusing that if something significantly less complex as a carving on a mountain can be deduced to be "made" how can certain folks attribute the creation of a cell as an accident/coincident

Was the intelligent designer drunk when he or she made these beauties?

snthesis: Please i need your honest answers related to the picture below:

1. what is your first opinion about the picture?
2. do u think it occurred by chance?
3. what are the odds of rain, wind, thunderstorms, lightning etc -severe weathering, producing the design of this work?
4. do u instantly think it was created by an intelligent designer?
5. which is easier to create, this work or a living cell?

if you have answered the questions above honestly, then please answer just one more
6. Do u still think Atheism/evolution/big bang theory makes sense?

honestly,i am unable to see the correlation between mount rushmore(a work of art similar to the mona lisa and "eze goes to school"has to do with atheism,evolution or this thread.the blame probably resides with my lack of quality education

Delafruita:
honestly,i am unable to see the correlation between mount rushmore(a work of art similar to the mona lisa and "eze goes to school"has to do with atheism,evolution or this thread.the blame probably resides with my lack of quality education

i think the problem lies in appreciating what makes u. if you think you arent a work of art, carefully and fearfully made, then that's ur cup of tea.

snthesis:
i think the problem lies in appreciating what makes u. if you think you arent a work of art, carefully and fearfully made, then that's ur cup of tea.

snthesis:
i think the problem lies in appreciating what makes u. if you think you arent a work of art, carefully and fearfully made, then that's ur cup of tea.

now i get your point.however,there's a big difference between a small time business man and a corporation.a mini businessman takes the time to ensure all his products are perfect.the loulders of mount rushmore put enormous effort into making it the beauty it is.a business corporation on the other hand falls into the trap of complacency and so sometimes its product arent up to standard or are open to been tampered with.take for example the tylenol case.
lets now relate this to your ridiculous scenario,mount rushmore is a perfect work of art which was worked on buy people that wanted it s beauty to last forever.is the case same with humans?

snthesis:
i think the problem lies in appreciating what makes u. if you think you arent a work of art, carefully and fearfully made, then that's ur cup of tea.

Did you see the works of art posted by Martian? Was it the same maker who made you that made them?

Delafruita:

now i get your point.however,there's a big difference between a small time business man and a corporation.a mini businessman takes the time to ensure all his products are perfect.the loulders of mount rushmore put enormous effort into making it the beauty it is.a business corporation on the other hand falls into the trap of complacency and so sometimes its product arent up to standard or are open to been tampered with.take for example the tylenol case.
lets now relate this to your ridiculous scenario,mount rushmore is a perfect work of art which was worked on buy people that wanted it s beauty to last forever.is the case same with humans?

ar u for real! u actually believe d design of mount rushmore is better than a single cell organism talk less of a Human

Martian:

Was the intelligent designer drunk when he or she made these beauties?

thehomer:

Did you see the works of art posted by Martian? Was it the same maker who made you that made them?

yea i did! do you consider cause and effect
do you blame God for Hiroshima, radioactivity, improper waste disposal, preservatives, carcinogens,unnatural farming/poultry methods,deforestation, global warming, ozone layer depletion, insensitive pollution of ground water via mining/ and other activities - nah! you wouldnt think that deep.

snthesis: Please i need your honest answers related to the picture below:

1. what is your first opinion about the picture?
2. do u think it occurred by chance?
3. what are the odds of rain, wind, thunderstorms, lightning etc -severe weathering, producing the design of this work?
4. do u instantly think it was created by an intelligent designer?
5. which is easier to create, this work or a living cell?

if you have answered the questions above honestly, then please answer just one more
6. Do u still think Atheism/evolution/big bang theory makes sense?

The simple answer is: within our experience, we recognize man made complexities because of its peculiar patterns. I wouldn't see a frog and say its man made.

Failing to recognise the difference btw natural complexities and man made complexities is one of imagination.

snthesis:
ar u for real! u actually believe d design of mount rushmore is better than a single cell organism talk less of a Human

oykie.i agree with you.however,mount rushmore will be there for years to come,some cells dont even last 1 day.i still believe one of the craziest things in the world is erthroblastosis.the child dies just because of a silly difference in rhesus.some cells last a few years,some for more,however all cells die.

snthesis:
yea i did! do you consider cause and effect
do you blame God for Hiroshima, radioactivity, improper waste disposal, preservatives, carcinogens,unnatural farming/poultry methods,deforestation, global warming, ozone layer depletion, insensitive pollution of ground water via mining/ and other activities - nah! you wouldnt think that deep.

So now its man made causes that are solely responsible for birth defects. lol, at least you didn't blame it on your god's nemesis, satan.

How about sickle cell anemia? Was that an "intelligent design" modification to fight malaria?

snthesis:


yea i did! do you consider cause and effect
do you blame God for Hiroshima, radioactivity, improper waste disposal, preservatives, carcinogens,unnatural farming/poultry methods,deforestation, global warming, ozone layer depletion, insensitive pollution of ground water via mining/ and other activities - nah! you wouldnt think that deep.

will an all-powerful,omnipresent father allow his children(creation) destroy his own creation(the earth)?nah!you wouldnt think that deep

snthesis: Please i need your honest answers related to the picture below:

1. what is your first opinion about the picture?
2. do u think it occurred by chance?
3. what are the odds of rain, wind, thunderstorms, lightning etc -severe weathering, producing the design of this work?
4. do u instantly think it was created by an intelligent designer?
5. which is easier to create, this work or a living cell?

if you have answered the questions above honestly, then please answer just one more
6. Do u still think Atheism/evolution/big bang theory makes sense?

You are suggesting perhaps that God did?
That would be the most stup1d suggestion that might get to read.

Ptolomeus:

You are suggesting perhaps that God did?
That would be the most stup1d suggestion that might get to read.

dnt want to believe u cud b dis dumb
nah! i think u got it lost in translation- try to read the post slowly

I didn't eat enough protein this morning to answer this question......I'll brb!

snthesis:


yea i did! do you consider cause and effect
do you blame God for Hiroshima, radioactivity, improper waste disposal, preservatives, carcinogens,unnatural farming/poultry methods,deforestation, global warming, ozone layer depletion, insensitive pollution of ground water via mining/ and other activities - nah! you wouldnt think that deep.

God is the ultimate cause and he guides the ultimate effect doesn't he?
Since you consider those pictures to be the images of people created by this God of yours, what makes you think he is an intelligent designer? A more perfect designer would get the designs right all the time.

snthesis: Please i need your honest answers related to the picture below:

1. what is your first opinion about the picture?
2. do u think it occurred by chance?
3. what are the odds of rain, wind, thunderstorms, lightning etc -severe weathering, producing the design of this work?
4. do u instantly think it was created by an intelligent designer?
5. which is easier to create, this work or a living cell?

if you have answered the questions above honestly, then please answer just one more
6. Do u still think Atheism/evolution/big bang theory makes sense?

as far as i can tell that is a fine work of art

thehomer:

God is the ultimate cause and he guides the ultimate effect doesn't he?
Since you consider those pictures to be the images of people created by this God of yours, what makes you think he is an intelligent designer? A more perfect designer would get the designs right all the time.

cant believe comprehension cud be so difficult-smh

d aim of this thread is simple- do u think mount rushmore was designed by sumone or was it by chance? yes or no

snthesis:

d aim of this thread is simple- do u think mount rushmore was designed by sumone or was it by chance? yes or no

still no response