Captainajama: I have been watching this your thread,the political critics will not rush this one because it does not have GEJ in it....anyway,state creation is a necessity,not by over blowing the whole thing,but by restoring parity and equality where it is supposed to be. The Igbo's need an additional state to balance with other regions....most people may not understand why it is very necessary, I will give you some reasons.
1. Development: when other regions are getting allocations and developing their regions from our joint resources,the south eastern region lags
2. Appointments: the current trend is for every state to have representation at the federal level,and with 5 states instead of 6 like other regions,we the Igbo's are been marginalised.
3. Political positions: the south east presents fewer house members(senators and rep members) than other regions and that weakens our hands in political manoeuvres.
4. Positions and employment: quota system has become the other of the day,and in essence,we are been cheated when it comes to positions and employment. Gradually,our region produces the least number of people each time recruitments and positions are advertised,and that does not bode well for us.
5. Promotions.: those in the civil service can tell you how that goes. For instance,if there are 40 vacant positions at the management level,it gets shared according to geo political regions,now imagine wha spbecomes of the south east.

I am not raying to take the tribal line,I am simply asking for the fairness to be implemented because the op asked what is fair and it still surprises me that when the issue of state creation Mae up,all the other regions still came up asking for this state and that state. Anyway,let us keep watching our brothers from these other regions to see how fair he can be.

Captainajama: I have taken time to examine the states up north with their LGA's and monthly allocations,and it baffles me on what criteria the states were created,landmass? They definitely do not have more population than their counterparts down the south,so why would Kano and Katsina have combined 74 LGA's while the entire south east has 95 LGA's?(Abia-17,Ebonyi 13,Imo -27,Enugu-17,Anambra-21) and we cannot get at least one or two more states? Most of those local govts In the far north have a population less than a thousand and they only appear the days they want to pay salaries or share money(yet they are states). We spend our money servicing something that should not be.....or tell me why a state has been carved out of Old Kano with the same number of local govt as Lagos state while Kano still has 40 LG's to still boast with,......baba Mallam! It's unfair and change must be effected. I urge the senate, house of reps and Nigerians home and abroad to judge this matter

torkaka: nigeria does not need any more states! if the igbos are complaining that they have only five states then how many states do the nupes,tivs,kanuri,ijaws have? these whole geographical zone argument is flawed! afterall abacha was the one who created geographical zones!

a break down of the eight tribes with the most number in nigeria goes;

1.yoruba : kwara,lagos,oyo,osun,ogun,ekiti,ondo.
2. igbo : anambara,enugu,ebonyi,imo,abia.
3.fulani : sokoto,katsina,bauchi,gombe.
4. hausa : zamfara,kano,jigawa.
5. tiv : benue.
6. kanuri : borno.
7. ijaw : bayelsa.
8. nupe : niger.

lets not use sentiments remove the geographical zone thing that was created by abacha and you will see igbos are not marginalised!

Mandelaguy: You got it all wrong,the Igbos cannot be brought into the same league with TiV,kanuri,Ijaw,nupe etc. we have more population than even the hausa fulani put together and most of the major cities in this country have the Igbos making up 1/3 of the entire population because we are the most spread in this country. Marginalized? Sure we are!

torkaka:
if you are talking population then please explain to me what number of population determines one state,what number determines two states,what number determines five states and what number determines six?

superior1: We dont need more states, infact i think we already have too many. Creation of more states will only increase cost of administration (as we will have more governors, Special advisers, commisioners etc to pay) and reduce the fund available for development.

There were not has many states during the era of ZIK and co but we do have serious infrastructural development. We need to return back to true federalism and allow all regions to manage their resources(and yes, South South should have their oil). We need to decenteralise the Federal Government and give more strength to Local Governments. This will force each region to look inward and perhaps groundut in the North, oil Palm in the east and Cocoa in the Southwest will once raise again.

If this country will not look ahead beyond the current feeding source (oil), then i am sorry to say, this country has got no future

Mandelaguy: All this issue of state creation is as a result of allocation sharing. If states are to manage their resources,no one would care about the centre and corruptin will drastically reduced.

Captainajama: Matter of fact,Igbos are marginalised,whether you like it or not.

Captainajama: I have been watching this your thread,the political critics will not rush this one because it does not have GEJ in it....anyway,state creation is a necessity,not by over blowing the whole thing,but by restoring parity and equality where it is supposed to be. The Igbo's need an additional state to balance with other regions....most people may not understand why it is very necessary, I will give you some reasons.
1. Development: when other regions are getting allocations and developing their regions from our joint resources,the south eastern region lags
2. Appointments: the current trend is for every state to have representation at the federal level,and with 5 states instead of 6 like other regions,we the Igbo's are been marginalised.
3. Political positions: the south east presents fewer house members(senators and rep members) than other regions and that weakens our hands in political manoeuvres.
4. Positions and employment: quota system has become the other of the day,and in essence,we are been cheated when it comes to positions and employment. Gradually,our region produces the least number of people each time recruitments and positions are advertised,and that does not bode well for us.
5. Promotions.: those in the civil service can tell you how that goes. For instance,if there are 40 vacant positions at the management level,it gets shared according to geo political regions,now imagine wha spbecomes of the south east.

I am not raying to take the tribal line,I am simply asking for the fairness to be implemented because the op asked what is fair and it still surprises me that when the issue of state creation Mae up,all the other regions still came up asking for this state and that state. Anyway,let us keep watching our brothers from these other regions to see how fair he can be.

HNosegbe: The fact has been clearly stated here that the underlying reason for the clamour for state creation is the an aspiration for a greater share of oil revenues. The Igbos are better served by demanding a return to regionalism where resources and appointments are shared by zones rather than states within a zone (Not that I subscribe to this money-sharing thingy anyway).

The main point is that we need to take our minds off what we can get from the centre, and think instead of what we can contribute. If all state governors could carry out regional integration by identifying areas of comparative advantage and focusing on exploiting them, we wouldn't have this issue of state creation.

Stop consuming, start producing.

Captainajama: I know that greed will not allow them agree to revert to the old region style,so I will be stupid to advocate for that,but the important issues that spell marginalization, a creation of the military era and past govts must be addressed for us to stop shouting marginalization in the South East and South South.
1. Development: when other regions are getting allocations and developing their regions from our joint resources,the south eastern region lags
2. Appointments: the current trend is for every state to have representation at the federal level,and with 5 states instead of 6 like other regions,we the Igbo's are been marginalised.
3. Political positions: the south east presents fewer house members(senators and rep members) than other regions and that weakens our hands in political manoeuvres.
4. Positions and employment: quota system has become the other of the day,and in essence,we are been cheated when it comes to positions and employment. Gradually,our region produces the least number of people each time recruitments and positions are advertised,and that does not bode well for us.
5. Promotions.: those in the civil service can tell you how that goes. For instance,if there are 40 vacant positions at the management level,it gets shared according to geo political regions,now imagine what becomes of the south east.

I am not rallying to take the tribal line,I am simply asking for the fairness to be implemented because the op asked what is fair and it still surprises me that when the issue of state creation came up,all the other regions still came up asking for this state and that state. Anyway,let us keep watching our brothers from these other regions to see how fair they can be.

jumobi1: We needs only 6-8 states however Senators and Reps won't approve because it would mean a fewer number of them in government.

States should create their own wealth so state creation won't be an issue. We need self sustainable states not leaches.

Representation in the federal level should be based on population though and I think it is.

Captainajama: We have developed more than ha level of 6-8 states,but,looking at he level of greed and hunger for power no one will agree in state reduction,rather,we should balance the equation with south east favoured more.