He wants to donate to himself

Good to know, then I must wait till I fight a war, win it and pay tithe from the proceed of the war.

Thank you sir

This one never know WhatsApp

ofai:


Which light? Eckankar light? Torch light? Remember your village according to you is a cursed place. Attend to that first.

from fraudsters like you who preach fake doctrines

ofai:


If so, then quit making noise about tithing. Just shut up.

I won't sir, I'm here to open the people to the light

ofai:

[s]
From what I observe, there are two people opposing this tithing of a thing.

1. The aggrieved ones who feel they have been exploited by church ministers, particularly the selfish and materialistic ministers.

2. The carnal ones who just don't want to accept tithing.

That said... Tithing predates the mosaic law. It was done by divine revelation, not by any old testament law. So stop attaching tithing to the old testament laws.

Those who have ears let them hear.

[/s] rubbish, I have not even siad anything about the Bible yet

ofai:


Malachi 3:10 should not not and never be interpreted Materialistically.... "Opening the windows of heaven, pouring out abundant blessings" is not about materialism.

Jesus didn't condemn tithes, in fact, he validated it but criticized pharisees for neglecting the "weightier" issues that is, engendering justice, mercy and faith in their lives. (Matthew 23:23)

and the scripture cherrypicking continues

ofai:


Tell that to the man in the mirror.

Not all ministers use tithes Materialistically and selfishly. Oh I forgot, your mental curse won't make you understand.

Open rebuke is better than secret love.

you have not explained?

What does tithe do in the spirit?

Your overall COP (chief operating pastorpreneur) said we will be permanent beggars if we don't pay tithe but Nigerians are the people begging for UAE visa, they don't beg us for Nigerian visa

ofai:
You think tithing is all about material wealth? Anyway am not surprised. You lack spiritual depth.

By the way, you are cursed because you believe your village in abia state is cursed. Am not surprised.

lol, brainwashed fellow

People living in one of these pictures in duabi don't even know what tithe is, the other picture is where tithers live.

asuustrike2009:
Some of the issue raised by Yeshua are true but I don't think you're a Christian. A Christian don't write or post this kind of article filled with hatred

I'm a Christian, not a church freak.
I condemn church freaks

Jamiesongsingz:


Pastor Chris as one man donated N1billion naira to a Nigerian University for their building Project.. Thats the one we know .. There are others.. You think if he wanted a private jet for himself, he wouldn't have bought it effortlessly?? Do you know how many of such gifts offer he has turned down??Huh

donating to the project of a university is not charity sir

Is it possible for an arm of church to have such money? Why can't him sell it and use the money for charity just like pope Francis did?

the old Hebrew name of Jesus is "Yeshua ha mashiach "

It means "Saviour the Messiah" in English

It means "servator Messias" in Latin

It means "soter chtisto' in Greek

So how did Jesus came to be in the English and Greek bible?

Is there anything we need to know?

UbanmeUdie:




You foolishness is absolutely stunted!

you are the foolish person, the Hebrew name of the messiah is "Yeshua ha mashiach "

It means "Saviour the Messiah"

It means "servator Messias" in Latin

It means soter chtisto in Greek

So how did Jesus came to be?

Think, don't be a foolish religious fanatic

greatnaija01:
WHO THAT ONE EPP..... all I know is when I go on my knees and call the name of Jesus.... MIRACLES HAPPEN especially after I fast, the miracles happen faster.

so GREEK N HEBREW is not what great men like AYO BABALOLA of CAC knew that they were able to call beach to come and wash their legs, that they were able to use their staff rod to cast out several Demons and they didnt go to school.... FORGET the hebrew n greek... KNOW THE OWNER OF THE NAME thats all.

you see why I don't take you guys serious?

You don't know the meaning of Jesus? Even in Latin and Greek it means nothing

greatnaija01:
lolss..... as tho you are so important your opinion would count....mtchew.... even you do not take yourself serious

what is the meaning of Jesus in Hebrew, Latin, Greek or even English?

Before anything, I must let you know that I'm a Christian also, though I may not share the same view with a lot of Nigerian Christians.

Nigerian Christians alongside their African counterparts are the most ignorant Christians on earth, I'm not trying to be insulting but it's the truth.

First all, Christians in Africa know absolutely nothing about the emergence of the religion aside what they read about Paul and peter in the Bible. Most of the Christian doctrine we imitate are not of Apostles Paul.

The early biblical Christian church of peter and paul started in isreal and never made significant growth, the result today is that isreal is just 2% Christian population. Christianity over a long period of troubles and persecution was finally adopted in the roman empire, this was the actual emergence of Christianity, though the message got their via apostle Paul but it took a while for it to be adopted and the roman empire came up with a lot of things contrary to what was obtainable in the apostolic time.

Have you asked yourself these questions?

1. Jesus spoke in Hebrew, "Jesus" as a word means nothing in Hebrew, as matter of fact, according to the Hebrew bible, he was called "Yeshua ha mashiach", do you know how the name Jesus came to be?

2. Do you know how the Bible was translated from Hebrew to Greek to Latin and then to English by the romans? A lot of modifications were made in this regard, a lot of names were transliterated including the Jesus and Christ we have today.

Christianity is a religion, even as most of you don't agree, get to the internet and check the history of how the bible was written, the modifications and transliteration before killing yourself on this issue. Our over sabi too much, yet we know nothing, we even claim to know the religion better than the romans who started it fully, the English and Portuguese who brought them to us.

We have succeeded in Africanizing the religion, we practise the act of appeasing gods like that of IFA and Amadioha beofe he does something for us. We are stylishly introducing some traditional practise into the religion and it seems like we even practise the more than the Europeans who brought it down to us.

Nigerian Christians are Picassos at cherry picking bible verse that suit them and dumping others.

I don't take all your hypocrisy serious, y'all don't have an idea of what, how, when Christianity came on board.

salvation101:
except you just wanna argue, Matt23:23 is there. If u don't understand the king james version check with other versions as well..

no sir, that passage didn't ask you to tithe compulsorily, even if it does, you must still tithe to a levite sir.

2SWT:



Tithing is meant for the poor in our midst fine!
When you start talking about wealthy pastors do you bother checking their backgrounds?
Some of them came from poor homes (does that put them in the levites class) and were sponsored by the church.
When you talk about the properties they acquire do you bother looking for the good/generous things they've done? Do you think about the scholarships they've given? Do you talk about the Junior pastors they pay?
Do you even think of how much some of then put into the church both financially, spiritually and physically before the church grew to that extent?

Must you assume every pastor depend on your tithes and offerings? Some of them have their own businesses that fetch them money.

BTW do you really think pastors don't deserve a good life like every other church member?
Are there not people in your church who are richer than your pastor? Do you talk about them the way you talk about pastors?

Now I'm officially done with this tithing issue on this thread

you are yet to quote the bible, are you not a Christian?

Back it with Bible verses

2SWT:
why would I want to twist the Bible?
I tithe simple!

then quote the Bible verse that supports giving tithe for prosperity to a man who's not a levite.

PS: Abraham case is not normative and was a lawless era

2SWT:


I'm not one to start quoting Bible pages up and down for someone who's mind is already made up besides I believe you're an adult so you're free to decide if you want to pay or not afterall its your money.

seriously, you cannot find any Bible verse to defend tithing in the current dispensation, unless you want to twist it

Omuneizzy6:
This question was thrown to one of my members, and she said what about offering and tithe will you help me？
Lets reason together
is it ok as a christian to open his shop or business center on a sunday morning？

obeying the Sabbath day is a mosaic law, if you obey keeping the Sabbath holy, why not obey another Mosaic law that said we should not tithe in the 7th year as well?

We are all hypocrites

What's all this?

greatnaija01:
You are just being POOR. lolssss

TO SOMEONE WHO HAS 500 MILLION DOLLARS.

26million naira to buy a JET is like 26k... ITS THOSE OF YOU UNDER THE FOOD CHAIN that will cry FOUL and CRY waste.

WHY THEN DONT YOU TELL THEM THAT MEMBERS WHO HAVE CARS SHOULD DRIVE THEM HOME rather than they buying cars....

NOW THEY BUY CARS, use mobile police as escort... EVERYONE SHOUTS.... as if IF they see robbers robbing their pastor they will jump down from the car to save them.... mtchew... YOU ALL are hypocrites... this is a simple thing. DONT CRITICIZE A PERSON'S LEVEL JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT AFFORD IT.... wait till you get to the level then do something better then YOUR VOICE WILL BE HEARD and you would correct the error.

BUHARI CRITICIZED JONATHAN till he got into power n mumusciouly DID WORSE.... hope u get? If you were in their level... you may do worse. THEY SUFFERED TO GET THE POWER N GRACE THEY HAVE... let them enjoy it..

this is not politics please, people always have flimsy reasons for doing wrong things, it's both not logical and cost effective to run a private jet when people are dying of poverty sir.

No Nigeria pastor has more engagement that the pope sir.

greatnaija01:
It doesn't if you take flights then you will understand. NAIJA airport system is WACK...

it's not an excuse to spend about 100times the original fee, stop being hypocritical

greatnaija01:
pls tell me... where does POPE need to be URGENTLY? WHat country does he hold his crusades, POPE FLIES a PRIVATE JET that he does not own.

Now about PRIVATE JETS... you can not always get them or book for them because TOP POLITICIANS too do the same and they may not be readily available.

Last week I was on the same flight with FRANK EDWARDS and ANOTHER GREAT MAN OF GOD IN NIGERIA.... and guess what WE WERE ALL PISSED because it was a LATE FLIGHT due to naija inconsistencies....

DO YOU UNDERSTAND? only those who are not in such height or influence will think its a Luxury.... THAT IS HOW DEEPER LIFE USE TO TELL US BACK IN THE DAY THAT HAVING CARS WAS A SIN.... now they use even MINT cars o....

abeg... let us focus on the GOSPEL than GISTS

you can also be somewhere urgently without buying a private jet. You can book flight at anytime to anywhere you want

Even pope Francis doesn't have a private jet or fly on one.

If your G.O has one, then ask questions.

You need to know how much a private jet cost and how much it takes for parking one in the airport, maintain them and the landing fee.

As at 2013, According to industry sources, the FAAN collects about $320 (N155,200) for overnight stay of the jets at the airport and about $10, 000 (N3,600,000) monthly on parking fees on a jet from those who do not have private terminals.
If you own a private jet, you have to pay a total of N56,680,000 annually for overnight parking and N43,200,000 annually for monthly parking fee.

A TOTAL of N99,880,000 every year for just parking a private jet, excluding maintenance and landing fees (as at 2013).

Taking a flight from Lagos to London will cost you just about N250,000 per flight,
Even if they travel to London everyday, it will not still amount to N99,880,000 ticket fee excluding the fact that they will fuel these private jets, pay huge sum for maintenance and other huge fees.

A man of God needs to be prudent with his spending and consider right places to channel funds, if we are going to keep pretending that all is well, I won't be part of that pretence, there are several things that are not going right in Nigerian style of Christianity.

The other huge fees I you mentioned includes takeoff fees, landing fees (local and international varies), Pilot(s) wages, cabin crew wages, tracking charges (on contract basis). When we talk about maintenance, we don't just mean hardware. The software maintenance costs a lot too. The most frightening part of these jets is that the older they become the higher the maintenance costs and the more frequent you have to maintain them... Some silly dudes will even brag that their pastor own a certain amount of private jet. Christians need to wake up urgently.

UncleSnr:
Nigerians!!! Nigerians!!! Nigerians!!!

Let's try our spiritual and physical best to avoid these countries that have made a pact with the devil by recognizing marriage equality. We are better than these countries, we are wiser than their citizens, we are richer economically, we have free healthcare, we have quality education, we have a higher life expectancy etc because we have chosen to side with god ... which god I'm I talking about? Any god that sanctions death on homosexuals......

Here are the countries we must avoid so we don't end up as unfortunate as they are...

Argentina
Australia
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Colombia
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Iceland
Ireland
Luxembourg
Malta
Mexico
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
United kingdom
United States
Uruguay

These countries are currently receiving the wrath of the lord, avoid these countries....God bless you brethrens as we continue hating on homosexuals and homosexuality.

Please pay your tithes to avoid divine curses ��

lolz, what wrath, countries that are every Nigerian dream

Na we dey curse here, even with our tithing

chudi1:
You can help a beggar but give your tithes to the church because there are people and also things God want to use them for that is why he referred you to the church.

says who?

cummando:
Judge not.
So that you will not be judged

will you keep quiet?

greatnaija01:
are the living things not on earth? lol pls get an hebrew bible... i cannot come and be arguing

check a dictionary for the definition of "world" Sir